Stealing Tel Var Stones

Sypher · August 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjrlE6WykWE&feature=youtu.be

Just a little fun I had yesterday.

KenaPKK · August 2016

Yeeeeees what fun.

Omgwtfbbq321 · August 2016

Nice, this is what I am building towards.

I recently made a Magcika Nightblade to try this bombing thing out. Although I haven't tried it much in Imperil City, in Cyrodiil I seem to find people don't die from the initial burst. I know that sometimes it’s because the groups happen to split away from each other in the last second, but other than that, the people I run into seem to be more tanky than the ones in your video.

I am running:
- Duel wield/Resto.

5 Piece Clever Alchemist.
1 Piece Kena.
1 Piece blood spawn.
5 Piece Vicious Death.

All infused/divines + max magcika enchants, Gold, and spell damage enchants on jewellery.

I use InnerLight to Empower the SoulTether and fire that off at the same time as the ProxyDet, but sometimes I barely scratch people. I think I have around 4400 buffed spell damage and 33k max magcika.
Any suggestions? I use sap essence a well, but after the initial burst.

Sypher · August 2016

Omgwtfbbq321 wrote: »

Nice, this is what I am building towards.

I recently made a Magcika Nightblade to try this bombing thing out. Although I haven't tried it much in Imperil City, in Cyrodiil I seem to find people don't die from the initial burst. I know that sometimes it’s because the groups happen to split away from each other in the last second, but other than that, the people I run into seem to be more tanky than the ones in your video.

I am running:
- Duel wield/Resto.
5 Piece Clever Alchemist.

1 Piece Kena.

1 Piece blood spawn.

5 Piece Vicious Death.

All infused/divines + max magcika enchants, Gold, and spell damage enchants on jewellery.

I use InnerLight to Empower the SoulTether and fire that off at the same time as the ProxyDet, but sometimes I barely scratch people. I think I have around 4400 buffed spell damage and 33k max magcika.
Any suggestions? I use sap essence a well, but after the initial burst.

Drop the kena and bloodspawn, go 5 Alchemist 5 Vicious Death 3 will power.

The problem you are having isn't with spell damage but with your max magicka. As you can see in the video I'm pushing 44K Max Magicka and around 4.4K Spell damage without weapon enchant 4.8K with weapon enchant. I recently changed to high elf but even with imperial I was getting 40.6K Max magicka with the same spell damage.

Rohamad_Ali · August 2016

The exact build I've been leveling . Great fun when it works .

Bromburak · August 2016

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Omgwtfbbq321 · August 2016

Cheers for the info, I will swap in willpower. I can imagine that max magcika makes a bug difference. Do you have this build on your website? Was going to look over skills and mundus stone.

Cheers.

Brrrofski · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Haha, you should. It the benefit of having shade. Drop down from high, do your thing then dissappear is need be.

KenaPKK · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

You say some of the weirdest things...

Sypher · August 2016

Omgwtfbbq321 wrote: »

Cheers for the info, I will swap in willpower. I can imagine that max magcika makes a bug difference. Do you have this build on your website? Was going to look over skills and mundus stone.

Cheers.

Here's the build video just use sharpened swords instead of nirnhoned.

https://youtu.be/5ENk6kPwdKc

Sypher · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Fair play? The skill was designed that way and is meant to be used that way. I'm not sure I understand why you consider this malicious in any way.

Bromburak · August 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Haha, you should. It the benefit of having shade. Drop down from high, do your thing then dissappear is need be.

It's a difference to disappear by shadow image mechanics that are intentional or exploiting terrain ignorance by shadow image bugs.

cdobratz · August 2016

stealing against ToS. BanPls.

KenaPKK · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Haha, you should. It the benefit of having shade. Drop down from high, do your thing then dissappear is need be.

It's a difference to disappear by shadow image mechanics that are intentional or exploiting terrain ignorance by shadow image.

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Bromburak · August 2016

Sypher wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Fair play? The skill was designed that way and is meant to be used that way. I'm not sure I understand why you consider this malicious in any way.

The problem is not the design the problem are bugs with impact to several skills like shadow image.
Devs didn't expect side effects with terrain ignorance when designing the skills.

You might don't see the similarities but we are actually talking about the same cause we have on gap closers.
Terrain ignorance is a serious problem in ESO and I thought you aware of this that's why my "fair play" statement.
However, it was not my intention to blame players , I apologize if it came across that way.

KisoValley · August 2016

Decent.

Brrrofski · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Haha, you should. It the benefit of having shade. Drop down from high, do your thing then dissappear is need be.

It's a difference to disappear by shadow image mechanics that are intentional or exploiting terrain ignorance by shadow image bugs.

You're legit able to get up onthe places by claiming or spawning. So you're allowed to put down a shade. So you're allowed to teleport back...

Those places in IC aren't exploits. Unless you gap close to get up, you're not exploiting anything.

Bromburak · August 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Haha, you should. It the benefit of having shade. Drop down from high, do your thing then dissappear is need be.

It's a difference to disappear by shadow image mechanics that are intentional or exploiting terrain ignorance by shadow image bugs.

You're legit able to get up onthe places by claiming or spawning. So you're allowed to put down a shade. So you're allowed to teleport back...

Those places in IC aren't exploits. Unless you gap close to get up, you're not exploiting anything.

Now you really walk on thin ice.

If you seriously think that porting into a safe zone during combat is ok while there is no way for your opponents to reach this area, then your understanding of competitive PvP and fair play is totally out of control.

The reason why the game shouldn't let you port back up to the safe spot of your faction is the idea of being silenced in a safe zone. So it shouldn't allow you to cast anything and this includes shadow image.

How about fixing bugs instead forcing players to argue of what is right or wrong?

Rage_Killin · August 2016

When you can 1vx in thirty seconds or less...

Sypher · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

Haha, you should. It the benefit of having shade. Drop down from high, do your thing then dissappear is need be.

It's a difference to disappear by shadow image mechanics that are intentional or exploiting terrain ignorance by shadow image bugs.

You're legit able to get up onthe places by claiming or spawning. So you're allowed to put down a shade. So you're allowed to teleport back...

Those places in IC aren't exploits. Unless you gap close to get up, you're not exploiting anything.

Now you really walk on thin ice.

If you seriously think that porting into a safe zone during combat is ok while there is no way for your opponents to reach this area, then your understanding of competitive PvP and fair play is totally out of control.

The reason why the game shouldn't let you port back up to the safe spot of your faction is the idea of being silenced in a safe zone. So it shouldn't allow you to cast anything and this includes shadow image.

How about fixing bugs instead forcing players to argue of what is right or wrong?

But I didn't port into any safe zone, my opponents could just walk up the stairs and get to me.

Master_Kas · August 2016

That last clip was awsome :<

Sandman929 · August 2016

These are the builds I hate. Not because they're cheap, or there's anything wrong with them, but I hate them. However, I now always keep my block up when I'm standing still because I know they're out there.

Takes-No-Prisoner · August 2016

Sandman929 wrote: »

These are the builds I hate. Not because they're cheap, or there's anything wrong with them, but I hate them. However, I now always keep my block up when I'm standing still because I know they're out there.

If you have detect potions on you its not as terrible. IC you gotta watch for them putting up Magic Det then going into cloak, open world Cyrodiil they are a little easier to spot since they can't do their set up in blind spots. Then if you get hit with their ult, it's all about mitigation and survival then.

I have also seen the Shade used like that for defending keeps. I saw her load up on her buffs, put on Magic Det, teleport strike into the enemy cluster, bomb+some damage, teleport back into the keep to heal and buff. It's pretty fun watching these MagBlades do that strat. It's smart too, cause if you can get the teleport back inside the keep you're pretty much guaranteed safe. Honestly wish more MagBlades did that. Might have to go look into leveling up my MagBlade High Elf so I can play around with it more.

KisoValley · August 2016

Sandman929 wrote: »

These are the builds I hate. Not because they're cheap, or there's anything wrong with them, but I hate them. However, I now always keep my block up when I'm standing still because I know they're out there.

Because the build counters the people who lagg out the servers. I love this build and similar builds.

LeifErickson · August 2016

Bromburak wrote: »

Great steal and video.

But there is one thing I don't like.
Don't get me wrong Sypher but you shouldn't use shadow image to port back on to different floor levels or unreachable spots for opponents. It wasn't a problem in this situation but in general it's a question of fair play.

So is it not fair when a magicka sorc streaks from one rock to another and that other rock just so happens to be a place unreachable by other classes?

Xsorus · August 2016

@Sypher hey man how you liking switching to High Elf?

i've debated if i wanted to switch my Argonian NB over to HE now.

Sypher · August 2016

Xsorus wrote: »

@Sypher hey man how you liking switching to High Elf?

i've debated if i wanted to switch my Argonian NB over to HE now.

I'm loving the extra magicka and bit of regen. 3-5k extra magicka depending on build is awesome.

KenaPKK · August 2016

Breton would have been better for this build though because of the low regen...

Xsorus · August 2016

Sypher wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

@Sypher hey man how you liking switching to High Elf?

i've debated if i wanted to switch my Argonian NB over to HE now.

I'm loving the extra magicka and bit of regen. 3-5k extra magicka depending on build is awesome.

Yea you're looking about 3k more then my Argonian at this point, wasn't sure it was really worth switching for that.

Sypher · August 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Breton would have been better for this build though because of the low regen...

True but I plan to play an elemental based destro build soon so that's why I went high elf

Xsorus · August 2016

Sypher wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Breton would have been better for this build though because of the low regen...

True but I plan to play an elemental based destro build soon so that's why I went high elf

lol, Sypher you ever out somewhere away from the computer and come up with a really good idea for a build and just wish you were back at your house?

Cause that's what i'm doing right now....

*grin*