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Are you allowed to just buy the game again to create a new account if you get banned?
I only ask because I see people doing this all over the place and nothing happens when they are reported.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
I only ask because I see people doing this all over the place and nothing happens when they are reported.
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Since they don't IP ban I don't see anyway they could stop that from happening .1 -
moiraleafcull✭✭✭
Yet it took nearly 3 days to get my main account "authorized on this computer" after whatever silliness they do to check IP address changes. My other two accounts took 1 hour and 3 hours respectively and needed to do it separately for each of my accounts for account access (to contact support). So 6 different reauthorizations because my IP changed due to an ISP DHCP change. Yet...they cant ban based on IP...I would refer to Blizzards Overwatch bans...but that link already posted in another thread and easily Googled.Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Since they don't IP ban I don't see anyway they could stop that from happening .
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭moiraleafcull wrote: »
Yet it took nearly 3 days to get my main account "authorized on this computer" after whatever silliness they do to check IP address changes. My other two accounts took 1 hour and 3 hours respectively and needed to do it separately for each of my accounts for account access (to contact support). So 6 different reauthorizations because my IP changed due to an ISP DHCP change. Yet...they cant ban based on IP...I would refer to Blizzards Overwatch bans...but that link already posted in another thread and easily Googled.Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Since they don't IP ban I don't see anyway they could stop that from happening .
I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .0 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.Edited by zyk on August 9, 2016 5:36PM10 -
vortexman11✭✭✭✭✭
✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Since they don't IP ban I don't see anyway they could stop that from happening .
Apparently they don't IP ban for using CE or any of that type of stuff.
But hey, they IP ban for zone chat trolling!Guild of Shadows ~Elite~Învictus ~Council~
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.4 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭God_flakes wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.
CE is not what's driving people from the game, it was a final straw for some (for example Bulba intended to come back to the game until the CE weekend happened) but people are leaving the game due to long standing problems that are yet to be fixed. Whether the person you have this vendetta against used CE or not, which you have no way of knowing for sure and can only make assumptions, he is NOT using it now, he's just that good. Do you really think you could take him on 1v1?6 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Cheating is a major factor for a *lot* of people I know. Not all of them have quit, but most only PVP super casually like I do now. We used to play every night, but now go weeks or months in between play sessions because the game has no integrity.
This is a game where you can memory hack, get caught and get away with it. Not only will ZOS unban you, but other players will embrace you.
The players who have embraced known memory hackers are as toxic as the cheaters. It speaks to your character *and reputation* when you choose to play with a known memory hacker.
Abusing glitches is one thing (which I do not condone), but memory hacking is far worse and should be a red line for everyone.Edited by zyk on August 9, 2016 6:25PM6 -
Mustard✭✭✭✭Basically ZOS allows banned players to do it even if you report the old banned account name and the new one created.
Edited by Mustard on August 9, 2016 6:53PM3 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.
CE is not what's driving people from the game, it was a final straw for some (for example Bulba intended to come back to the game until the CE weekend happened) but people are leaving the game due to long standing problems that are yet to be fixed. Whether the person you have this vendetta against used CE or not, which you have no way of knowing for sure and can only make assumptions, he is NOT using it now, he's just that good. Do you really think you could take him on 1v1?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That's all I see from you excuse makers anymore. None of you defending him have any credibility at all anymore.2 -
Publius_Scipio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.
CE is not what's driving people from the game, it was a final straw for some (for example Bulba intended to come back to the game until the CE weekend happened) but people are leaving the game due to long standing problems that are yet to be fixed. Whether the person you have this vendetta against used CE or not, which you have no way of knowing for sure and can only make assumptions, he is NOT using it now, he's just that good. Do you really think you could take him on 1v1?
Don't beat around the bush. We all know exactly what happened to bulbasir. The poor b@stard was out at the mall and he was swarmed by kids playing Pokemon Go. He's trapped in some 14 year old's iPhone now.Edited by Publius_Scipio on August 9, 2016 8:16PM16 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.
CE is not what's driving people from the game, it was a final straw for some (for example Bulba intended to come back to the game until the CE weekend happened) but people are leaving the game due to long standing problems that are yet to be fixed. Whether the person you have this vendetta against used CE or not, which you have no way of knowing for sure and can only make assumptions, he is NOT using it now, he's just that good. Do you really think you could take him on 1v1?
Don't beat around the bush. We all know exactly what happened to bulbasir. The poor b@stard was out at the mall and he was swarmed by kids playing Pokemon Go. He's trapped in some 14 year old's iPhone now.
It's true, we are still mourning the loss
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.
CE is not what's driving people from the game, it was a final straw for some (for example Bulba intended to come back to the game until the CE weekend happened) but people are leaving the game due to long standing problems that are yet to be fixed. Whether the person you have this vendetta against used CE or not, which you have no way of knowing for sure and can only make assumptions, he is NOT using it now, he's just that good. Do you really think you could take him on 1v1?
Don't beat around the bush. We all know exactly what happened to bulbasir. The poor b@stard was out at the mall and he was swarmed by kids playing Pokemon Go. He's trapped in some 14 year old's iPhone now.
Actually, I captured him.
Too bad his cp is so low.
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Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭God_flakes wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.
CE is not what's driving people from the game, it was a final straw for some (for example Bulba intended to come back to the game until the CE weekend happened) but people are leaving the game due to long standing problems that are yet to be fixed. Whether the person you have this vendetta against used CE or not, which you have no way of knowing for sure and can only make assumptions, he is NOT using it now, he's just that good. Do you really think you could take him on 1v1?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That's all I see from you excuse makers anymore. None of you defending him have any credibility at all anymore.
You say that as if anyone cares if they have credibility with you or not.3 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I see what you are saying and do not know why they don't IP ban . I have no idea what their reasons being .
IP bans do not work. Most IP addresses are dynamic, even if they may sometimes remain the same for long periods of times. It is usually easy for one to instigate an IP change and possible that banned IP addresses may one day be used by different, innocent customers.
However, it is possible to create a unique fingerprint from most PCs.
Ultimately, it all comes down to a lack of will from ZOS to invest in technologies, CS, and policies to keep toxic players out. It costs money that it seems unwilling to pay. ZOS either does not look at the big picture or does not believe this stance will hurt it in the long run.
I think the main factor is that ZOS considers its target player to be *extremely* casual and therefore out of touch with issues such as cheating because it doesn't really effect them.
The bottom line is if one is serious about PVP, this isn't the game to play. It is a total waste of time for serious players. This is why our community is so ghetto -- especially those who think they are elite.
Yes, yes, yes. Especially those who think they're elite and parrot these catch phrases: "l2p", "1v1 me brah" and "I don't use CE, I'm just that awesome".
I do think zos could do more than they're doing about cheaters and exploiters. Ban their accounts FOR REAL. Don't just hand their accounts back to them if they cry hard enough. And most have enormous egos and cheat because they think it's funny to dominate in that way and they WANT to be known. They almost always make a name with their new account that is nearly identical to the account that was "perma-banned". Seeing them running around Cyrodiil is a slap in the face to honest players and why so many have quit.
CE is not what's driving people from the game, it was a final straw for some (for example Bulba intended to come back to the game until the CE weekend happened) but people are leaving the game due to long standing problems that are yet to be fixed. Whether the person you have this vendetta against used CE or not, which you have no way of knowing for sure and can only make assumptions, he is NOT using it now, he's just that good. Do you really think you could take him on 1v1?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That's all I see from you excuse makers anymore. None of you defending him have any credibility at all anymore.
You say that as if anyone cares if they have credibility with you or not.
Yeah yeah yeah. Blah blah blah. Who really even cares, Ghost? You? Is that why you keep coming back and trying to what? Prove me wrong? Cheaters gonna cheat. Defenders gonna defend. Me yawning---->
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ataggs✭✭✭✭I would like more transparency from ZOS:
-A clear policy
-What is in place to prevent cheating
- What they actively do to find cheaters
- How they prevent these people from returning to the game.
I don't think people should get banned for using broken mechanics ( if something is broken with your game fix it).I also think it is unfair to put the burden of finding the cheaters on the players. Why don't ZoS employees log on and find the cheaters? Because it is an inefficient use of your time? Mine too.
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kevlarto_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭why would you want to, new box starting over, and if someone was banned for cheating, 99% chance they will cheat again, why bother time to move on, I think everyone I know that was cheating and got back in game is cheating again, ZOS cannot be nice to cheaters they will only take advantage of the situation/ /shrug
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[Deleted User]Soul ShrivenHello everyone,
Seems this thread has gotten a tad bit derailed, for this reason we've felt it necessary to close the thread. Another reason being that there is an official thread currently active on the matter of cheating and exploiting. The question may be best asked there, as well as further discussion on the matter.
Thank you for understanding.0
This discussion has been closed.