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Absurdly blatant bug on console: Animation cancel using emotes

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I just recently came back to the game recently so I do not know if this bug/exploit has already been reported or even known, but do know that this thing exists on console. No idea how this is replicated.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=55O5NwlL6aQ
  • magictucktuck
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    That's kinda funny but in open world unless u stood there doing nothing while they did the emote, not standing there by duels I would imagine it's useless.
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  • Nestor
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    So, it looks to me like someone was using the Kow Tow or Kneel emote before launching an attack? Is that what I am seeing?

    I would never imagine using an Emote to cancel an animation, it seems there is a certain pause, at least on PC, between selecting the emote and the character doing the emote. This is not a long pause, just noticeable. Not to mention that we have to pull up our chat screen, or at least the UI, to fire an emote, so this would never really work on the PC. Perhaps because the Emotes are sort of hot keyed on the console that this can work on that platform, if that is what I am seeing..
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  • Sophist_NA
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    Nestor wrote: »
    So, it looks to me like someone was using the Kow Tow or Kneel emote before launching an attack? Is that what I am seeing?

    I would never imagine using an Emote to cancel an animation, it seems there is a certain pause, at least on PC, between selecting the emote and the character doing the emote. This is not a long pause, just noticeable. Not to mention that we have to pull up our chat screen, or at least the UI, to fire an emote, so this would never really work on the PC. Perhaps because the Emotes are sort of hot keyed on the console that this can work on that platform, if that is what I am seeing..

    Yea. The first time he killed me, I just assumed that I lagged/health desynced. But after I get revived, you can clearly see that he does kowtow emote again, and I just automatically died. Clearly, it has something to do with cancelling the attacks using the emote, but I have NO clue how it is replicated.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Nestor wrote: »
    So, it looks to me like someone was using the Kow Tow or Kneel emote before launching an attack? Is that what I am seeing?

    I would never imagine using an Emote to cancel an animation, it seems there is a certain pause, at least on PC, between selecting the emote and the character doing the emote. This is not a long pause, just noticeable. Not to mention that we have to pull up our chat screen, or at least the UI, to fire an emote, so this would never really work on the PC. Perhaps because the Emotes are sort of hot keyed on the console that this can work on that platform, if that is what I am seeing..

    Depends on the pause. I dont know if there is an addon that would hot key an emote but it certainly be done with a macro.

    Now that this is out there we shall see! I can't wait!
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on August 8, 2016 9:33PM
  • Xeven
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    This makes me even more angry at ZOS. I didn't think that was possible.
  • waterfairy
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    That's your fault for being dumbfounded by something dumb in battle :p
  • Danksta
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    Nestor wrote: »
    So, it looks to me like someone was using the Kow Tow or Kneel emote before launching an attack? Is that what I am seeing?

    I would never imagine using an Emote to cancel an animation, it seems there is a certain pause, at least on PC, between selecting the emote and the character doing the emote. This is not a long pause, just noticeable. Not to mention that we have to pull up our chat screen, or at least the UI, to fire an emote, so this would never really work on the PC. Perhaps because the Emotes are sort of hot keyed on the console that this can work on that platform, if that is what I am seeing..

    It would be way too awkward on PS4.
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  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Sophist_NA wrote: »
    I just recently came back to the game recently so I do not know if this bug/exploit has already been reported or even known, but do know that this thing exists on console. No idea how this is replicated.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55O5NwlL6aQ

    @ZOS_GinaBruno can someone look into this please..
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  • babedenny
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    I was just toying with the idea of trying out PVP. Nope, nope, nope...
  • mobicera
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    Once after a few drinks, I was messing around with animation cancels with various emotes I quick linked, it never worked all that well then but seemed as though it could work out for laughs and just to confuse and catch people off guard... I just didn't try it again...
    When the attack hits the emote cancels though so you cant say chain a few attacks ending up sitting on a chair...
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Looks to me like you had serious lag OP. Won't deny the DC player was suspicious, but all that happened was definitely the result of lag.
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  • Bdawwg
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    I've had this happen before, some guy just standing around emoting, can't remember which and I start losing health. Thought it was a de sync too but now I get it.
  • yodased
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    Well you can potion wheel emotes on console, so it's easier to do.

    Pc would need a simple macro

    Enter, pause, type /emote, micro pause, skill/attack, pause, type /emote
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  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    Unfortunately, you will likely get a strike against ya for 'naming and shaming' as your video shows the alleged offenders name. Recommend you simply explain the issue here then send @ZOS_GinaBruno a link to the vid.

    keep it up on YouTube. Enough of us have seen it to know the issue and watch out for the dude. That said, remove the vid from the thread before an admin chimes in. They seem to take forum rules more seriously than in game cheats...such a shame.
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    Haderus, PS4 NA. I see [edited out names to avoid "naming and shaming" -_-]. Really guys?

    I know these are all strong players too. They run Vet trials. What I don't understand is why they are very clearly exploiting stuff (exposed) and not reporting it. This is an extremely unfair glitch they've found and are keeping secret to exploit. Sad.

    There was a time when I wanted to run trials with them. Was recently going to bring my new Magplar DPS and join, but am absolutely thinking twice now.

    I don't care who the player is. Cheating especially in PvP is pathetic. If they did the animation glitch on this random guy in the video they obviously do it to many more players. Smh. Deserve some temporary bans imo.
    Edited by Vaoh on August 10, 2016 5:26AM
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    Not sure of this is the same thing but I think this may be the cause of the glitch.

    On Console you can run around and whilst running you are doing the emote you selected - playing loot, push ups etc. Although it doesn't show on your screen but it shows on all the other players screen.
    Maybe if you where to attack whilst the animation was happening? I've never tested but it is a funny thing seeing people running around doing all crazy emotes.
    Edited by Wrecking_Blow_Spam on August 10, 2016 7:17AM
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  • The-Baconator
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    Its just sad when you're more surprised that people are still unaware of a long standing bug than the bug itself. The earliest I heard of this working was with the release of Imperial City and I wouldn't be surprised if it worked even earlier. For the record the trolliest possible use of the bug is Jesus Beam\Soul Assault in a Xv1 if anyone is interested :trollface:
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Haderus, PS4 NA. I see [edited out names to avoid "naming and shaming" -_-]. Really guys?

    I know these are all strong players too. They run Vet trials. What I don't understand is why they are very clearly exploiting stuff (exposed) and not reporting it. This is an extremely unfair glitch they've found and are keeping secret to exploit. Sad.

    There was a time when I wanted to run trials with them. Was recently going to bring my new Magplar DPS and join, but am absolutely thinking twice now.

    I don't care who the player is. Cheating especially in PvP is pathetic. If they did the animation glitch on this random guy in the video they obviously do it to many more players. Smh. Deserve some temporary bans imo.

    They're trolling

    Edit: To be clear though it is possible to overwrite combat animations with emotes on your emote wheel on concole atm and it should be fixed asap
    Edited by The-Baconator on August 10, 2016 7:41AM
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  • Amorpho
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    Sophist_NA wrote: »
    I just recently came back to the game recently so I do not know if this bug/exploit has already been reported or even known, but do know that this thing exists on console. No idea how this is replicated.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=55O5NwlL6aQ

    After seeing the video I realise how bad it was. It maybe worked because you were standing still rather than moving? Could lag have something to do with it? Also, notice that he used it on dizzying swing only. This because the animation for that skill is quite slow at the beginning, enabling him to cancel with the emote. Had it been an instant cast it would not have been possible.
    Edited by Amorpho on August 10, 2016 7:57AM
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  • andreasranasen
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    Its just sad when you're more surprised that people are still unaware of a long standing bug than the bug itself. The earliest I heard of this working was with the release of Imperial City and I wouldn't be surprised if it worked even earlier. For the record the trolliest possible use of the bug is Jesus Beam\Soul Assault in a Xv1 if anyone is interested :trollface:
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Haderus, PS4 NA. I see [edited out names to avoid "naming and shaming" -_-]. Really guys?

    I know these are all strong players too. They run Vet trials. What I don't understand is why they are very clearly exploiting stuff (exposed) and not reporting it. This is an extremely unfair glitch they've found and are keeping secret to exploit. Sad.

    There was a time when I wanted to run trials with them. Was recently going to bring my new Magplar DPS and join, but am absolutely thinking twice now.

    I don't care who the player is. Cheating especially in PvP is pathetic. If they did the animation glitch on this random guy in the video they obviously do it to many more players. Smh. Deserve some temporary bans imo.

    They're trolling

    Edit: To be clear though it is possible to overwrite combat animations with emotes on your emote wheel on concole atm and it should be fixed asap

    Aren't the people in this video your friends? *cough* blues.. *cough*.

    I don't understand how people don't get banned for this stuff. I'm sure these people also t bag and call themselves gods -_-
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    Edited by andreasranasen on August 10, 2016 8:26AM
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  • Shogunami
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    Using this exploit should (YES IT F****** SHOULD!) be a bannable offense. Do it once, get a warning. Do it again, goodbye permanently.

    ZOS, how about you man up a bit and start dealing with these issues? Exploiting game mechanics to gain unfair advantage = cheating. Cheaters should be permanently banned - no freaking excuses.
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  • Vaoh
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    Its just sad when you're more surprised that people are still unaware of a long standing bug than the bug itself. The earliest I heard of this working was with the release of Imperial City and I wouldn't be surprised if it worked even earlier. For the record the trolliest possible use of the bug is Jesus Beam\Soul Assault in a Xv1 if anyone is interested :trollface:

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  • BRogueNZ
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    Why bother anyway, its not like this doesn't happen everyday with run-o-the-mill cancelling.

    Just ask any NB one

    Edited by BRogueNZ on August 10, 2016 8:30AM
  • Hashtag_
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    It's a funny glitch and fun to mess with friends with. We always use a turkey leg and call it getting the turkey leg of dreams. Open world it doesn't work so it's not like people are getting a competitive advantage. It's something to do to someone who is standing still or not moving much.
    Edited by Hashtag_ on August 10, 2016 9:18AM
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    babedenny wrote: »
    I was just toying with the idea of trying out PVP. Nope, nope, nope...

    If you go in with low expectations, it's actually not too bad.

    You will get cheesed by bugged armor sets, lag, a few cheaters and zergs but take ego out of it and just try to have fun.

  • FloppyTouch
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    Looks to me like you had serious lag OP. Won't deny the DC player was suspicious, but all that happened was definitely the result of lag.

    No way that's lag that's a know exploit ppl are using I've seen it done testing with friends.
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    Damn
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  • Jailbirdy
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    I notice ZOS's lack of communication in openly addressing this issue in this forum post.
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