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All of a sudden rapid maneuver is pulling me out of being hidden?

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pecheckler
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All of a sudden when I use rapid maneuver on my nightblade I am being removed from hidden status. This never used to be the case. I've always been revealed when using it while hidden on my templar but never on my nightblade. All I did was respec and equip a new set of gear, which i've done dozens of times before. I can still use vigor while hidden and not be revealed?

How do I fix this?
End the tedious inventory management game.
  • Jaronking
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    You can't ZOs made it so any group buff will bring you out of stealth.
  • out51d3r
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    I noticed that on a heist this morning. I think it was a change with the most recent patch. There's a few things that break stealth that didn't pre-patch. Vigor is another one that breaks stealth now.

    I'm just solving it by switching back to Double Take. It still keeps you stealthed when you use it. Given that it's a Nightblade ability, it'll probably stay that way.
  • pecheckler
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    You can't ZOs made it so any group buff will bring you out of stealth.

    I just logged on my level 19 dragon knight and level 26 sorcerer. Both can use rapid maneuver without breaking stealth, just like my nightblade has been able to up until this point. How do you explain that?
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • out51d3r
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    pecheckler wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    You can't ZOs made it so any group buff will bring you out of stealth.

    I just logged on my level 19 dragon knight and level 26 sorcerer. Both can use rapid maneuver without breaking stealth, just like my nightblade has been able to up until this point. How do you explain that?

    Interesting. Do you have a different morph(or maybe no morph) on those characters?
  • Jaronking
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    pecheckler wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    You can't ZOs made it so any group buff will bring you out of stealth.

    I just logged on my level 19 dragon knight and level 26 sorcerer. Both can use rapid maneuver without breaking stealth, just like my nightblade has been able to up until this point. How do you explain that?

    Than I don't know that what @ZOS_GinaBruno said was the reason vigor were breaking you out of stealth thought it would be the same here.
  • pecheckler
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    out51d3r wrote: »
    pecheckler wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    You can't ZOs made it so any group buff will bring you out of stealth.

    I just logged on my level 19 dragon knight and level 26 sorcerer. Both can use rapid maneuver without breaking stealth, just like my nightblade has been able to up until this point. How do you explain that?

    Interesting. Do you have a different morph(or maybe no morph) on those characters?

    None of those three have morphs. The nightblade is level 44 and i've used rapid maneuver thousands of times while hidden and it has never broke. The character has been in cyrodiil since level 10.

    On my templar, who've I've had since PC launch (transferred to PS4), rapid maneuver and both morphs have always broken stealth. I had just assumed that abilities could be used while stealthed as a nightblade.... I thought it was a feature of the class. If that's not the case then I have no interest in playing a nightblade. I have spent several hundred hours in PvP with this character and i've been refreshing rapid maneuver every time it's up while stealthed the entire time.

    I've opened a ticket about the bug. I don't know what else to do.
    Edited by pecheckler on August 7, 2016 5:49PM
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • out51d3r
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    Interesting. I suspect we actually aren't intended to be able to use it from stealth anymore. Strange that some of your characters still can. Also strange that your Templar couldn't do it previously.

    I haven't got anything other than a nightblade I can test it on. It definitely didn't break stealth for me pre-patch, and it definitely does now.
  • Sharee
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    That's really strange, because rapid was never usable for me without breaking stealth (on a NB).

    Its the reason why i've been using double take for sneak speed boost since forever.
  • Daveheart
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    It's not a bug. If you were able to use it before without breaking stealth, then that was a bug.
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  • AugustoCP
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    Rapid Maneuvers + magblade's unending dark cloak = Heists done in 3 minutes
  • altemriel
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    check the latest patch notes.

    the same goes for Vigor unfortunatelly...
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    pecheckler wrote: »
    out51d3r wrote: »
    pecheckler wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    You can't ZOs made it so any group buff will bring you out of stealth.

    I just logged on my level 19 dragon knight and level 26 sorcerer. Both can use rapid maneuver without breaking stealth, just like my nightblade has been able to up until this point. How do you explain that?

    Interesting. Do you have a different morph(or maybe no morph) on those characters?

    None of those three have morphs. The nightblade is level 44 and i've used rapid maneuver thousands of times while hidden and it has never broke. The character has been in cyrodiil since level 10.

    On my templar, who've I've had since PC launch (transferred to PS4), rapid maneuver and both morphs have always broken stealth. I had just assumed that abilities could be used while stealthed as a nightblade.... I thought it was a feature of the class. If that's not the case then I have no interest in playing a nightblade. I have spent several hundred hours in PvP with this character and i've been refreshing rapid maneuver every time it's up while stealthed the entire time.

    I've opened a ticket about the bug. I don't know what else to do.

    pecheckler wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    You can't ZOs made it so any group buff will bring you out of stealth.

    I just logged on my level 19 dragon knight and level 26 sorcerer. Both can use rapid maneuver without breaking stealth, just like my nightblade has been able to up until this point. How do you explain that?

    Are you saying that in fixing the bug on your NB (it seems reasonable that a rapid manoeuvre should break stealth, as it did with you other characters) they have now introduced that bug to your templar and DK?

    Unexpected...

  • Skinzz
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    It always pulled me out of stealth since day 1?
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Kelces
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    It always did, yes.
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  • Draxys
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    I told people this back in 1.6 and no one believed me lol. Rapids NEVER broke stealth (or "hidden" if you want to dispute that they're different) before that, then all of a sudden, it did. The inconsistency from player to player and when it happened to them, if it did, is very confusing though.
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  • Minute_Waltz
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    Before: It pulls all classes except NB out of stealth

    Now after the fix: It pulls all classes out of stealth
  • laksikus
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    I cant see anything about Rapid in Patch notes, so i assume its the same as always.

    Rapid lvl 1 doenst pull anyone out of stealth.
    Rapid lvl 2+ pull you out.

    Will test this later when Server is online
  • pecheckler
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    laksikus wrote: »
    I cant see anything about Rapid in Patch notes, so i assume its the same as always.

    Rapid lvl 1 doenst pull anyone out of stealth.
    Rapid lvl 2+ pull you out.

    Will test this later when Server is online

    I just leveled up one of my two characters mentioned earlier which still wern't affected to prove this.

    It's true.

    Rapid rank 1 = doesn't pull out of stealth.
    rank 2 and above including all morphs does.


    As someone who became addicted to using it as a crucial part of my playstyle I am super pissed about it.


    edit: on PS4
    Edited by pecheckler on August 8, 2016 10:15AM
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • WuffyCerulei
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    It's been breaking stealth as long as I can remember. And good thing they made vigor reveal you now. Twas the only heal that wouldn't reveal you, and made stam builds rather OP in pvp.
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  • Panth141
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    Wait, so this is a bug specific to Rapid Maneouvres rank 1?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno is this a known issue?
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  • altemriel
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    ZOS could you please revert this change.
  • mook-eb16_ESO
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    I agree this has always been the case since time and its only the cast that cast pops you out of stealth, not destealthing may have been a class bug where it didn't apply to some classes .There are other ways to achieve stealth move speed you don't need rapids necessarily or find somewhere to cast the rapid where you cant be seen.
  • lardvader
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    Sharee wrote: »
    That's really strange, because rapid was never usable for me without breaking stealth (on a NB).

    Its the reason why i've been using double take for sneak speed boost since forever.

    Yeah me too - I've played a NB since January 2016 and rapid always broke stealth for me. Been using double take ever since....
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  • out51d3r
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    laksikus wrote: »
    I cant see anything about Rapid in Patch notes, so i assume its the same as always.

    Rapid lvl 1 doenst pull anyone out of stealth.
    Rapid lvl 2+ pull you out.

    Will test this later when Server is online

    Ahhh, that would explain it. I specifically tested Rapid a couple of weeks ago, deciding I'd use it because it didn't take me out of stealth. Leveling it past one would have roughly coincided with the patch.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Only my main uses Rapid (morphed into Retreating) and he is a NB and he always has stealth broken by using it. Has for a long time.
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