To: PS4 ESO Players

Louis · August 2016

which Faction is the dominating side and state how and why. (does not mean i will join if they are dominating)

im buying myself a copy of ESO on PS4, i will be mostly on the pvp aspect since ive finished all 3 faction story on PC.
on PC-NA AD has the most bars on pvp always so i want to know the status on PS4 NA

opinions are welcome!

TrueGreenSmoker · August 2016

EP has the most people biggest zergs AD second and DC has numbers and zergs now and then.
When i look at campaigns
Chillrend: map is fully Red no other keep is a different alliance
Scourge: AD EP and DC mostly full during prime time
Haderus: Was AD farm server but EP mostly owns the map and DC gets it now and then
Skull of Corruption: DC farm server but AD is there too and EP takes the 6 keeps and map or most of the map
Thornblade: Was a EP farm server but AD went there and DC sometimes you see a small group
Blackwater Blade: all factions (No CP below lvl 50 campaign)
Azura Star: Not alot of people in there (No CP)

Correct me if im wrong

Pandorii · August 2016

Most major PvP players usually have characters in all three fractions. They each have a coordinated zerg leader. I'd say pick the faction that is most meaningful to you (or based on the race that you want to play if you don't have any race/any alliance).

EP has been known to have the numbers, but it hasn't always had coordination.

Rohamad_Ali · August 2016

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

EP has the most people biggest zergs AD second and DC has numbers and zergs now and then.
When i look at campaigns
Chillrend: map is fully Red no other keep is a different alliance
Scourge: AD EP and DC mostly full during prime time
Haderus: Was AD farm server but EP mostly owns the map and DC gets it now and then
Skull of Corruption: DC farm server but AD is there too and EP takes the 6 keeps and map or most of the map
Thornblade: Was a EP farm server but AD went there and DC sometimes you see a small group
Blackwater Blade: all factions (No CP below lvl 50 campaign)
Azura Star: Not alot of people in there (No CP)

Correct me if im wrong

This is pretty accurate for prime time play .

Kammakazi · August 2016

EP has higher population but DC gets leaderboards (Trials/Arena).

AD is just like... there.

mb10 · August 2016

No idea about NA Im afraid but just incase...

On EU PS4:

I have 2 characters on EP and 1 AD and for dungeons DEFINITELY AD is a lot better the quality of players is a lot higher. It really depends on who you know for PVE. Randoms are never reliable anywhere.

On PVP you just have to look for yourself to see what AD are doing there on Thornblade (main PS4 EU server) atm. All 3 factions are full on PVP but AD is dominating.

DC players tend to be more creative on PVP and you can tell their guilds/groups are better organised with some good players. I feel like the faction lacks numbers but their quality is there.

EP on pvp is a zerg to be honest.

KimoBitz · August 2016

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

EP has the most people biggest zergs AD second and DC has numbers and zergs now and then.
When i look at campaigns
Chillrend: map is fully Red no other keep is a different alliance
Scourge: AD EP and DC mostly full during prime time
Haderus: Was AD farm server but EP mostly owns the map and DC gets it now and then
Skull of Corruption: DC farm server but AD is there too and EP takes the 6 keeps and map or most of the map
Thornblade: Was a EP farm server but AD went there and DC sometimes you see a small group
Blackwater Blade: all factions (No CP below lvl 50 campaign)
Azura Star: Not alot of people in there (No CP)

Correct me if im wrong

You're wrong hahaha I've been playing eso on my ps4 for a month now and I have to tell you that the pact is complete *** Im with ebonheart and I regret joining them they are lazy each time I jump into cyrodiil literally we are dominated

YeOldeGamer · August 2016

My opinion. Don't do it. State of the game on console is TRASH. Both Xbox and PS4. Every update brings more bugs, so the game is about to get even worse. With the introduction of txt chat on console (somthing I have wanted since launch) performance is going to take another hit and it is already terrible. I have no faith that ZO$ can pull it off. They are only interested in squeezing every dime they can from you, not FIXING THE GAME...

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

EP on PS4 NA use to have a smart competitive guild called warriors of cyrodill, but now there gone.
Were just a bunch of mindless zerglings now. OP please don't join ep, join ad,. I'll be switching from ep to ad in a couple of months.

Louis · August 2016

alright thanks for the information guys, it seems that most people are leaning towards EP and AD.
as is the same thing on PC

The-Baconator · August 2016

On NA if you're the type of player that wants to do something besides sit in a buff server all day I would recommend red or yellow. Daggerfall is light on buff servers so a lot of zergbad guilds have stacked into our main campaign ( scourge ) which has led to a population imbalance for a good part of the day. Sadly if your looking to join up with a half decent organized guild you probably won't find any, most of our good pvp guilds have bailed over the last few updates and I doubt most are ever coming back.

Drdeath20 · August 2016

DC is the toughest to play against EP has a bigger population but they try to be in every campaign and ad is just there. Ad is typically the alliance that only has 1 battle marker on the board.

Vaoh · August 2016

The-Baconator wrote: »

On NA if you're the type of player that wants to do something besides sit in a buff server all day I would recommend red or yellow. Daggerfall is light on buff servers so a lot of zergbad guilds have stacked into our main campaign ( scourge ) which has led to a population imbalance for a good part of the day. Sadly if your looking to join up with a half decent organized guild you probably won't find any, most of our good pvp guilds have bailed over the last few updates and I doubt most are ever coming back.

So true

As a DC solo player, I have difficulty finding "good" PvP. It's either play in lag (and often die because of lag) in Scourge, or fight in the Imperial City on Haderus.

Drdeath20 · August 2016

The only filled server is scourge and DC usually has the highest population throughout the day on it. They mainly win.

EP has more of a population than ad, throughout the day but they are less organized and have less cp 501s

Louis · August 2016

almost i might want to add, if any asians who play on the PS4 run across this thread. which faction during our timezone has most of the population.

Ep1kMalware · August 2016

Louis wrote: »

which Faction is the dominating side and state how and why. (does not mean i will join if they are dominating)

im buying myself a copy of ESO on PS4, i will be mostly on the pvp aspect since ive finished all 3 faction story on PC.
on PC-NA AD has the most bars on pvp always so i want to know the status on PS4 NA

opinions are welcome!

by faction, you mean 'guild', right?

TequilaFire · August 2016

EP has highest numbers? lol
PS4 DC and AD far out number us!

Mettaricana · August 2016

I just join the server with the moat back and fourth combat can't stand running for jours without seeing anyone

Brutusmax1mus · August 2016

Dc has the most organized maxed players in scourge of your ask me. The biggest names are always on top 10. They all run together, take it very seriously, and will scream their heads off at you. Ad has more casual but decent guilds imo. Ep is trash and they just play with numbers. The good fights are normally dc vs ad. Ive run all three and both in dc and ad they consensus of fight blue or yellow since ep is easy and can be pushed whenever needed.

Refuse2GrowUp · August 2016

First, I have to agree with most in that EP is, quite unfortunately, not organized at all anymore. We used to be a decent alliance, but alas, those days are long gone.

I would also agree that DC is the lowest populated and has a roster of talented PvPers. Tho, in the main campaign they have pretty much just become a massive zerg ball.

I would disagree that EP outnumbers AD. For a while, AD dominated almost every campaign and could easily three bar all the campaigns. EP can zerg, I do not refute that, but I have never seen EP demonstrate the sort of numbers AD has. Even in the sewers. Take for example this vid shot quite some time ago...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HiXIMaFMLGo

In fact, most of the EPers either bounced to AD because they wanted easy wins, bounced to DC because they wanted to play the underdog (and thus DC is not nearly out numbered as they used to be), or quit the game because the state of PvP declines with every update.

Louis · August 2016

very well stated comments, thank you all for your input.

anymore thoughts are welcome

DurzoBlint13 · August 2016

TrueGreenSmoker wrote: »

EP has the most people biggest zergs AD second and DC has numbers and zergs now and then.
When i look at campaigns
Chillrend: map is fully Red no other keep is a different alliance
Scourge: AD EP and DC mostly full during prime time
Haderus: Was AD farm server but EP mostly owns the map and DC gets it now and then
Skull of Corruption: DC farm server but AD is there too and EP takes the 6 keeps and map or most of the map
Thornblade: Was a EP farm server but AD went there and DC sometimes you see a small group
Blackwater Blade: all factions (No CP below lvl 50 campaign)
Azura Star: Not alot of people in there (No CP)

Correct me if im wrong

yes this is fairly accurate.
just want to add:
Red= ZERG ZERG ZERG "more is better" mentality (dominate Skull, Chillrend, Haderus)
Yellow= one server and very little presence any where. when they do show up they are usually organized (dominate Thornblade)
Blue= good solo players but lack cohesion (dominate Scourge)

I would stay away from Skull if I were you unless you choose Red. All of Blue's PvEers are in skull and make it almost impossible to defend anything because they pop-lock it and spend all their time in IC while you get run over by 100+ Red Zerg.
Scourge is best PvP but has lag issues. (same as old Azura's)

TequilaFire wrote: »

EP has highest numbers? lol
PS4 DC and AD far out number us!

UltimaJoe777 · August 2016

Welcome to ESO Louis! I can tell you what I know about NA Server at least.

There are 7 PvP Campaigns you can sign up for. 1 is a Home Campaign where your Alliance Points give you rewards, and another is a Guest Campaign that does not give you rewards for your APs gained. Home Campaigns cost AP to switch but Guest switching is free but has a 3-day cooldown.

Blackwater Blade, or BWB for short, is the lowbie campaign for anyone under Lv50. Champion Points are disabled and it is oft times filled up. DC tends to have the edge in BWB.

Scourge is the general campaign for Lv50 players and is the most occupied. I do not run this Campaign though so I cannot tell you much beyond CPs are enabled and all objectives earn points, hence it's a general campaign.

All other campaigns earn points for specific objectives related to PvP. Thornblade as I post this shows more AD than EP and DC, the former of which is at least 1/3 full and the rest less than 1/3. Chillrend is 1/3 AD and EP as I post this with DC less than 1/3. Skull of Corruption is EP and DC at 1/3 and AD less than 1/3, again as I post this. Haderus is my Guest Campaign and used to be controlled primarily by AD but EP moved in and it now goes back and forth between them. EP usually has control though.

Azura's Star is the Lv50 no-CP campaign of PS4 NA. However, it is normally pretty empty and controlled by AD.

If you have any further questions feel free to ask, and I hope this helps!

P.S. Ignore the toxic naysaying here. #toxicremedies

Takes-No-Prisoner · August 2016

Skull had some nice fights going on a few weeks ago, until certain reds and their guilds showed up and kept an iron grip on the campaign. Now only pug blues still fight there.

Haderus had a nice push by reds, but yellow took it back over. Thornblade looks like it has some interesting things going on with its bars lately. Seems evenly populated.

I left Scourge awhile go along with a bunch of other yellows looking for less laggy fights so a lot of us are spread out over the other campaigns.

But for the most part TrueGreenSmoker is pretty accurate with his assessment of the campaigns right now. I usually check out PC NA PvP sometimes when I'm bored, but PS4 NA arguably has more PvP campaigns and PvP players online over PC NA in my opinion.

Louis wrote: »

almost i might want to add, if any asians who play on the PS4 run across this thread. which faction during our timezone has most of the population.

Not sure about Asian's, but I am in a guild mostly full of Australian players, they prefer campaigns like Chillrend or Haderus due to the fact that playing on Scourge in prime time sucks for them. They prefer less laggy campagins due to the distance they are from the servers.

disintegr8 · August 2016

Only really just started looking at PVP and most campaigns are pretty empty when I look at finding some action - after 8pm Melbourne Australia time. Probably means I could go and quest but for finding alliance fights it looks pretty dull all around.

Louis · August 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Welcome to ESO Louis! I can tell you what I know about NA Server at least.

There are 7 PvP Campaigns you can sign up for. 1 is a Home Campaign where your Alliance Points give you rewards, and another is a Guest Campaign that does not give you rewards for your APs gained. Home Campaigns cost AP to switch but Guest switching is free but has a 3-day cooldown.

Blackwater Blade, or BWB for short, is the lowbie campaign for anyone under Lv50. Champion Points are disabled and it is oft times filled up. DC tends to have the edge in BWB.

Scourge is the general campaign for Lv50 players and is the most occupied. I do not run this Campaign though so I cannot tell you much beyond CPs are enabled and all objectives earn points, hence it's a general campaign.

All other campaigns earn points for specific objectives related to PvP. Thornblade as I post this shows more AD than EP and DC, the former of which is at least 1/3 full and the rest less than 1/3. Chillrend is 1/3 AD and EP as I post this with DC less than 1/3. Skull of Corruption is EP and DC at 1/3 and AD less than 1/3, again as I post this. Haderus is my Guest Campaign and used to be controlled primarily by AD but EP moved in and it now goes back and forth between them. EP usually has control though.

Azura's Star is the Lv50 no-CP campaign of PS4 NA. However, it is normally pretty empty and controlled by AD.

If you have any further questions feel free to ask, and I hope this helps!

P.S. Ignore the toxic naysaying here. #toxicremedies

I am clearly older than you on ESO

if you read my short introductory, I just purchased ESO on PS4 not as a general.
BUT you did give your insight on the matter so, I thank you

Hashtag_ · August 2016

TequilaFire wrote: »

EP has highest numbers? lol
PS4 DC and AD far out number us!

No they don't. EP > AD > DC as far as pop goes. DC just all resides in scourge.

Refuse2GrowUp · August 2016

Hashtag_ wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

EP has highest numbers? lol
PS4 DC and AD far out number us!

No they don't. EP > AD > DC as far as pop goes. DC just all resides in scourge.

I would speculate AD outnumbers EP. I'm not denying EP has numbers and zergs, but AD has easily out zerg'd most campaigns.

The problem is that numbers/populations fluctuate as players roll alts to get into underdog alliances. I have been focusing more on PvE lately, so it is possible there has been a shift. I have been PvPing pretty heavily the last few days, but it has all been in Scourge where DC easily outnumbers both AD and EP several fold, so it isn't the best indicator of populations. But looking at the buff campaigns, they seem to be switching between AD and EP pretty frequently.

I have also noticed that many of the more prominent AD and DC players now have EP alts. Some seem to be playing EP as an underdog alliance while others seem to be simply trying to help flip Scourge quicker (getting emp for DC then switching to alts to help flip emp so that a different DC player can get emp).

Mozsta69 · August 2016

Im definitely no PVP expert but i tend to see AD or EP usually dominating ....dont ask me why numbers i suppose !

TequilaFire · August 2016

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Dc has the most organized maxed players in scourge of your ask me. The biggest names are always on top 10. They all run together, take it very seriously, and will scream their heads off at you. Ad has more casual but decent guilds imo. Ep is trash and they just play with numbers. The good fights are normally dc vs ad. Ive run all three and both in dc and ad they consensus of fight blue or yellow since ep is easy and can be pushed whenever needed.

I beg to differ all DC and AD do is run in such large zergs it is a wonder EP still manages to smack your behinds every once in a while with smaller numbers.

Most of the time it is DC doing the most with AD trying to sneak in the back door as EP is fighting DC.

TequilaFire · August 2016

Hashtag_ wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

EP has highest numbers? lol
PS4 DC and AD far out number us!

No they don't. EP > AD > DC as far as pop goes. DC just all resides in scourge.

Uh, we are talking about PS4 Scourge aren't we?

So population is DC>AD>EP if you actually are there every day.