Crafting and the new post lvl 50 leveling

Jade1986 · July 2016

So, I cannot be the only one that finds this whole new system flawed, can I?

I recently just made lvl 48 gear for my toon, and was happy as could be when going into pvp, my stats were good, everything was optimal......

Then I hit 50 and FLY up to cp 160. Now when I go into pvp my stats are awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwful, and I cannot exactly craft that lvl gear yet, so I have to grind like CRAZY in order to get my smithing and the like up. Personally I dont think they thought this through at all. Gear should just stop at 50. Period.

RandalMarrs · July 2016

Too late to want for that. It is what it is now and will likely only progress upwards. Be happy your trip to the top was so quick and realize that you now have access to higher level loot to wear or deconstruct as needed.

Now get out there and grind.

EleonoraCrendraven · July 2016

Or buy cheap stuff from the trading guilds to deconstruct or to research traits.

disintegr8 · July 2016

To the best of my knowledge it is impossible for a players first character to jump from level 49 to CP160. Based on the fact that you cannot earn CP until you reach level 50, your statement leads me to believe that this is not your first character and you have (or have had) at least one other character at CP160 (or had a vet character before vet removal).

If you are saying that you have no material to make gear, no gold to buy it and no skills to make it, what have you been doing with your other character/s?

Plenty of people either bought or went grinding for enough material to make their Vet 16 gear before the change, why should that gear now be next to useless because you don't like the jump from level 50 to CP160?

I would have thought that not having to worry about making multiple sets of gear as you progress from level CP10 to CP160 would be a bonus, not a problem.

Jade1986 · July 2016

EleonoraCrendraven wrote: »

Or buy cheap stuff from the trading guilds to deconstruct or to research traits.

Thats what I am doing now : cries :

Jade1986 · July 2016

disintegr8 wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge it is impossible for a players first character to jump from level 49 to CP160. Based on the fact that you cannot earn CP until you reach level 50, your statement leads me to believe that this is not your first character and you have (or have had) at least one other character at CP160 (or had a vet character before vet removal).

If you are saying that you have no material to make gear, no gold to buy it and no skills to make it, what have you been doing with your other character/s?

Plenty of people either bought or went grinding for enough material to make their Vet 16 gear before the change, why should that gear now be next to useless because you don't like the jump from level 50 to CP160?

I would have thought that not having to worry about making multiple sets of gear as you progress from level CP10 to CP160 would be a bonus, not a problem.

But you do have to make multiple sets. If you have lvl 48 gear, and fly over cp 140 and enter a pvp campaign or pve group finder dungeon, your stats will be goooood awful. So you have to somehow get all the perks really fast to make cp 140 gear, otherwise you might as well not even do either of those activities.

STEVIL · July 2016

laced wrote: »

So, I cannot be the only one that finds this whole new system flawed, can I?

I recently just made lvl 48 gear for my toon, and was happy as could be when going into pvp, my stats were good, everything was optimal......

Then I hit 50 and FLY up to cp 160. Now when I go into pvp my stats are awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwful, and I cannot exactly craft that lvl gear yet, so I have to grind like CRAZY in order to get my smithing and the like up. Personally I dont think they thought this through at all. Gear should just stop at 50. Period.

Actually my take on this is the part that wasn't thought through at all was your "so what do i need for when i get this one of my characters to 50."

That old phrase about "your lack pf planning..." comes to mind.

That said, it will be helped IMO when they finish the deal and scale all the nodes so any character can harvest any useful material at their level anywhere. Right now, the legacy nodes at low-cp levels throughout so many zones are just wastes for the most part. the audience for "CP20, 30, 40, 50 etc gear is far less than it was before and will continue that trend.

They got it right with runes, but i guess that was just testing the waters and so we will see all nodes scaling by one-tam or sooner.

but yeah, plan ahead.

i had four characters promoted to Cp160 the day of the changover and had them all in Cp160 gear right away - because i had been working towards that easily forseen event ahead of time.

disintegr8 · July 2016

laced wrote: »

But you do have to make multiple sets. If you have lvl 48 gear, and fly over cp 140 and enter a pvp campaign or pve group finder dungeon, your stats will be goooood awful. So you have to somehow get all the perks really fast to make cp 140 gear, otherwise you might as well not even do either of those activities.

This is by design, to prevent you from simply choosing to keep your old gear rather than make new gear once you have levelled. The scaling system does not - and should not - level lower level gear to your level to save you making new gear. If you have not been doing any crafting leveling on your way to level 50, that is just poor planning,

My first remark from earlier still stands, you cannot jump from level 50 to CP140 or CP160 without having earned the CP on another CP level character (or a vet character prior to vet removal). If you have (or have had) another character reach vet/CP level, you have had the opportunity to level your crafting skills all the way and have either chosen not to or maybe deleted the character that had all the skills.

ShedsHisTail · July 2016

Do dailies in Gold Coast, easy way to get some base-line cp160 gear to hold you over until you can get some stuff that more readily conforms to your playstyle.

Sithis, Flanking, and Morihaus sets are all pretty easy to come by.

Vangy · July 2016

Tbh, vr15 purple gear is perfectly viable for most content short of vMA and trials and high-level PvP. If you are in a group, you should be able to hold your own weight no probs. And v15 mat is dirt cheap cos u only need like 20 pieces to make a one slot?

Beardimus · July 2016

Loads of drop sets you can buy to see you through, rarer since DB as lots of people had the same thought, I bought a ton priror to DB dropping to be ready.

but anyway if you have jumped to CP160 you must have another charactor right? Surely they are leveled enough to make the gear for this charactor? I.e. You don't have to craft it on that toon?

Levels slow I had most crafts at L50 before I hit L50 as a rank. Did you grind to L50 / level fast?

Jade1986 · July 2016

Beardimus wrote: »

Loads of drop sets you can buy to see you through, rarer since DB as lots of people had the same thought, I bought a ton priror to DB dropping to be ready.

but anyway if you have jumped to CP160 you must have another charactor right? Surely they are leveled enough to make the gear for this charactor? I.e. You don't have to craft it on that toon?

Levels slow I had most crafts at L50 before I hit L50 as a rank. Did you grind to L50 / level fast?

other characters didnt do smithing

I just realized tho the other day that all the gear dropping in the DLC areas are 110 or higher, so I am just farming gear there now to deconstruct.

Travy_2Hype · July 2016

laced wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Loads of drop sets you can buy to see you through, rarer since DB as lots of people had the same thought, I bought a ton priror to DB dropping to be ready.

but anyway if you have jumped to CP160 you must have another charactor right? Surely they are leveled enough to make the gear for this charactor? I.e. You don't have to craft it on that toon?

Levels slow I had most crafts at L50 before I hit L50 as a rank. Did you grind to L50 / level fast?

other characters didnt do smithing I just realized tho the other day that all the gear dropping in the DLC areas are 110 or higher, so I am just farming gear there now to deconstruct.

Doing daily dungeons, as well as, the Normal and Vet Undaunted Dungeon can net you really good gear. Most importantly 2 piece epic sets. If you have the people to do Trials, that'll net you not only good gear but good 5 piece epic sets.

Also, like someone else stated earlier - if you do that Dark Brotherhood quests in Gold Coast you'll net 140-160 Sithis Armor. Same goes for Theive's Den in Hew's Bane (don't remember name of armor sets).

KingYogi415 · August 2016

Max level gear is so cheap now. You can buy full pvp and bad trait sanctum sets for 20k!