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Is shadows of the hist a good dlc?

  • kampori
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    No
    attackjet wrote: »
    attackjet wrote: »
    Dam, I'm seeing a lot of no's.

    Probably will not get it, I like a compelling story, and so far none of the dlc's have done that for me :(

    Havnt got orsinium yet though

    Orsinium is well worth it. Tons of quest, the Arena, world bosses, dailies. I loved it playing as an orc. Best DLC in my opinion.

    Cool, I might have to get that one maelstrom seems like a challenge.

    Would you say its hard on veteran?

    @attackjet Yes. The fact that the vast majority of people can't complete Vet probably goes some way to show that it is hard (but frustrating and boring) end-game content.
    That said, Orsinium is a fantastic DLC. You're shooting yourself in the foot by not having it

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  • Illumous
    Illumous
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    No
    No one should have to pay that much for two dungeons with no new zone.
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  • Dredlord
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    No
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I like all the updates and fixes.
    Not DLC. Those are base game stuff, everyone gets them.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    But I like Cyrodiil town capture, the scaling of old content etc. It's about time they did that.
    Also not DLC.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I will be trying the new dungeons sooooooooooon. The Mephala one looks very cool. Love Mephala.
    The dungeons are actually the only stuff you get when you pay for the Shadows of the Hist DLC.

    Its all DLC buddy... the entire patch is DownLoadable Content

    Some you pay some you dont.

    Go argue semantics elsewhere. You understood full well I meant the paid part only. If you're not a subscriber and you don't buy the Shadows of the Hist DLC you still get update 11, but not the... wait for it... DLC. Most games, even offline games, are routinely updated/patched through downloads, but that doesn't mean the industry has taken to calling them DLC. That term is usually reserved for paid content.

    [Edit] Also, this is clearly what the OP meant since the question is whether or not to buy it.

    Dont get pissy you got corrected while you were correcting someone else with misinformation.

    He absolutely didn't get corrected. you and the poster HE corrected are in the wrong here. We all know what the OP is talking about. And all of us with half a brain know the difference between DLC and base-game patches

    He absolutely did get corrected as you will too.

    Your right we all knew what the op was talking about and none of us needed him explaining dlc so poorly.

    And so you know for the future, the base game patch is dlc, free dlc.

    Precisely. "Free" DLC which everyone gets, regardless of wether they buy it or not. Therefore, in absolutely every sense of logic- one can rightly and logically split the 'free DLC' and 'paid DLC' into 'patch' and 'DLC'.

    As said above, stop arguing pointless semantics. Stop being a tool. We still don't stand corrected, so, sorry about that.

    Lol, you started with the pointless semantics, added your own tool like behaviour and now your being a crybaby about being corrected and now your acting like hypocrit....

    Let it go kid. You got owned...by yourself.
  • kampori
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    No
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I like all the updates and fixes.
    Not DLC. Those are base game stuff, everyone gets them.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    But I like Cyrodiil town capture, the scaling of old content etc. It's about time they did that.
    Also not DLC.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I will be trying the new dungeons sooooooooooon. The Mephala one looks very cool. Love Mephala.
    The dungeons are actually the only stuff you get when you pay for the Shadows of the Hist DLC.

    Its all DLC buddy... the entire patch is DownLoadable Content

    Some you pay some you dont.

    Go argue semantics elsewhere. You understood full well I meant the paid part only. If you're not a subscriber and you don't buy the Shadows of the Hist DLC you still get update 11, but not the... wait for it... DLC. Most games, even offline games, are routinely updated/patched through downloads, but that doesn't mean the industry has taken to calling them DLC. That term is usually reserved for paid content.

    [Edit] Also, this is clearly what the OP meant since the question is whether or not to buy it.

    Dont get pissy you got corrected while you were correcting someone else with misinformation.

    He absolutely didn't get corrected. you and the poster HE corrected are in the wrong here. We all know what the OP is talking about. And all of us with half a brain know the difference between DLC and base-game patches

    He absolutely did get corrected as you will too.

    Your right we all knew what the op was talking about and none of us needed him explaining dlc so poorly.

    And so you know for the future, the base game patch is dlc, free dlc.

    Precisely. "Free" DLC which everyone gets, regardless of wether they buy it or not. Therefore, in absolutely every sense of logic- one can rightly and logically split the 'free DLC' and 'paid DLC' into 'patch' and 'DLC'.

    As said above, stop arguing pointless semantics. Stop being a tool. We still don't stand corrected, so, sorry about that.

    Lol, you started with the pointless semantics, added your own tool like behaviour and now your being a crybaby about being corrected and now your acting like hypocrit....

    Let it go kid. You got owned...by yourself.

    Quite the opposite. Semantics were brought in entirely by you. You argued pointless topics. We argued what the OP wanted to know. You're completely in the wrong and arguing otherwise proves that you are an imbecile who probably doesn't understand what 'semantics' means.

    You didn't win anything. I'm not a kid and probably much older than you. Which goes to my next point- people like you who can't finish an argument without a proper point, and reduced to trying to belittle someone you don't know over a forum, by using generic terms like 'kid' only shows your immaturity and your complete lack of a point.

    So do yourself a favour, and leave off. Ain't no one crying but you.
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  • Dredlord
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    No
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I like all the updates and fixes.
    Not DLC. Those are base game stuff, everyone gets them.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    But I like Cyrodiil town capture, the scaling of old content etc. It's about time they did that.
    Also not DLC.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I will be trying the new dungeons sooooooooooon. The Mephala one looks very cool. Love Mephala.
    The dungeons are actually the only stuff you get when you pay for the Shadows of the Hist DLC.

    Its all DLC buddy... the entire patch is DownLoadable Content

    Some you pay some you dont.

    Go argue semantics elsewhere. You understood full well I meant the paid part only. If you're not a subscriber and you don't buy the Shadows of the Hist DLC you still get update 11, but not the... wait for it... DLC. Most games, even offline games, are routinely updated/patched through downloads, but that doesn't mean the industry has taken to calling them DLC. That term is usually reserved for paid content.

    [Edit] Also, this is clearly what the OP meant since the question is whether or not to buy it.

    Dont get pissy you got corrected while you were correcting someone else with misinformation.

    He absolutely didn't get corrected. you and the poster HE corrected are in the wrong here. We all know what the OP is talking about. And all of us with half a brain know the difference between DLC and base-game patches

    He absolutely did get corrected as you will too.

    Your right we all knew what the op was talking about and none of us needed him explaining dlc so poorly.

    And so you know for the future, the base game patch is dlc, free dlc.

    Precisely. "Free" DLC which everyone gets, regardless of wether they buy it or not. Therefore, in absolutely every sense of logic- one can rightly and logically split the 'free DLC' and 'paid DLC' into 'patch' and 'DLC'.

    As said above, stop arguing pointless semantics. Stop being a tool. We still don't stand corrected, so, sorry about that.

    Lol, you started with the pointless semantics, added your own tool like behaviour and now your being a crybaby about being corrected and now your acting like hypocrit....

    Let it go kid. You got owned...by yourself.

    Quite the opposite. Semantics were brought in entirely by you. You argued pointless topics. We argued what the OP wanted to know. You're completely in the wrong and arguing otherwise proves that you are an imbecile who probably doesn't understand what 'semantics' means.

    You didn't win anything. I'm not a kid and probably much older than you. Which goes to my next point- people like you who can't finish an argument without a proper point, and reduced to trying to belittle someone you don't know over a forum, by using generic terms like 'kid' only shows your immaturity and your complete lack of a point.

    So do yourself a favour, and leave off. Ain't no one crying but you.

    Its funny how you *** and chastise all the things you are doing in your own posts.

    You are a hypocrit and you should be ashamed of your self old man.

    Are you gonna let it go yet? Unlikely isnt it
  • Rayya_Blackheart
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    Yes
    If given thechoice bbetween Orsinium and Shadows, pick Orsinium. The story is great, the zone offers a lot.
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  • Evergnar
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    Can't say, didn't buy it.
    Mainly because I couldn't log in until yesterday (dreaded error 11 reinstall). Wasn't too excited to give Zos my money after that.
    I'm not real keen on paying per dungeon anyways if that is what Zos plans to do from now on.
  • kampori
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    No
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    kampori wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I like all the updates and fixes.
    Not DLC. Those are base game stuff, everyone gets them.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    But I like Cyrodiil town capture, the scaling of old content etc. It's about time they did that.
    Also not DLC.
    JD2013 wrote: »
    I will be trying the new dungeons sooooooooooon. The Mephala one looks very cool. Love Mephala.
    The dungeons are actually the only stuff you get when you pay for the Shadows of the Hist DLC.

    Its all DLC buddy... the entire patch is DownLoadable Content

    Some you pay some you dont.

    Go argue semantics elsewhere. You understood full well I meant the paid part only. If you're not a subscriber and you don't buy the Shadows of the Hist DLC you still get update 11, but not the... wait for it... DLC. Most games, even offline games, are routinely updated/patched through downloads, but that doesn't mean the industry has taken to calling them DLC. That term is usually reserved for paid content.

    [Edit] Also, this is clearly what the OP meant since the question is whether or not to buy it.

    Dont get pissy you got corrected while you were correcting someone else with misinformation.

    He absolutely didn't get corrected. you and the poster HE corrected are in the wrong here. We all know what the OP is talking about. And all of us with half a brain know the difference between DLC and base-game patches

    He absolutely did get corrected as you will too.

    Your right we all knew what the op was talking about and none of us needed him explaining dlc so poorly.

    And so you know for the future, the base game patch is dlc, free dlc.

    Precisely. "Free" DLC which everyone gets, regardless of wether they buy it or not. Therefore, in absolutely every sense of logic- one can rightly and logically split the 'free DLC' and 'paid DLC' into 'patch' and 'DLC'.

    As said above, stop arguing pointless semantics. Stop being a tool. We still don't stand corrected, so, sorry about that.

    Lol, you started with the pointless semantics, added your own tool like behaviour and now your being a crybaby about being corrected and now your acting like hypocrit....

    Let it go kid. You got owned...by yourself.

    Quite the opposite. Semantics were brought in entirely by you. You argued pointless topics. We argued what the OP wanted to know. You're completely in the wrong and arguing otherwise proves that you are an imbecile who probably doesn't understand what 'semantics' means.

    You didn't win anything. I'm not a kid and probably much older than you. Which goes to my next point- people like you who can't finish an argument without a proper point, and reduced to trying to belittle someone you don't know over a forum, by using generic terms like 'kid' only shows your immaturity and your complete lack of a point.

    So do yourself a favour, and leave off. Ain't no one crying but you.

    Its funny how you *** and chastise all the things you are doing in your own posts.

    You are a hypocrit and you should be ashamed of your self old man.

    Are you gonna let it go yet? Unlikely isnt it

    Says the person who posted on my wall after ignoring your completely false post? Obviously you're looking for a fight like the child you are. I'm not. Mature people can argue points without getting emotional, unlike you seem to be able to do. So I'll do you the favour of ignoring you from now on.
    Frankly posting this message is playing into your hands, and continuing this pointless argument. But going out of your way to illicit a response from me? Pathetic.
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  • Runs
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    Kinda
    My vote is solely based on the "Collector's Pack"

    I don't look at it as buying DLC.

    We are buying a mount for 2500 crowns that, as a bonus, comes with 5 crown scrolls, a pet and 2 dungeons.
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  • snakester320
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    No
    If you like PvE content and dungeons, this one is fun. I've only done cradle of shadows but it's gorgeous and the content is actually challenging.

    if pvp isnt a laggy mess ohh wait your idea of fun is crazy!!
  • Wolfshead
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    No
    To me this could have been add to DB DLC for those 2 person you talk to at start of those 2 dungeon is from DB and honest this feel like very very lazy DLC patch from ZoS part it is like the have not put in any effort at all in this one.
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  • snakester320
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    No
    cravnbeer wrote: »
    This update gave us a lot of free stuff. The 2 new dungeons are great. If you are a dungeon runner the DLC is def worth it.

    MMOs cost a lot of money to operate. ESO does not require a sub, does not use immersion breaking gambling boxes, all DLCs have been optional. Really will never understand how can people still complain.

    Because we live in a world of entitlement gaming.

    GIVE ME NO SUB - Ok no sub but alot of crown store items so we can continue to make money to continue to make this game.

    OMG CROWN STORE STUFF COST ME MONEY QQ...

    ESO and Zenimax will never win. Are they a perfect company making a perfect game? No, but players now want everything easy and free and none stop.

    LMFAO think your thinking of a game company that gives a sh.t ZOS doesnt and they CANT charge you for a buged laggy mess that they refuse to actually FIX before they spit out more crap that needs fixing!! MAYBE go back and look at mmos that CAN charge subs and are worth the cost / price they charge!! SIMPLE logic fix the fn mess first and ppl will pay and be happy about doing so!!
  • Phinix1
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    No
    Totally subjective. To me, there's just not enough I really care about.

    Ruins of Mazzatun is just meh (to me). The visual esthetic is pretty bland, and I am not a fan of the mechanics which feel somewhat poorly designed. The red circles from Mighty Chodan for example should follow the target player of charge to be more visible for example. Never been a fan of bullet sponge "execute this mechanic perfectly every time or wipe" type "difficulty."

    Cradle of Shadows LOOKS cool from an esthetic point of view, but I probably won't bother with it because the difficulty is too over the top to run with PUGS and I am not interested in joining a trials guild just to do daily dungeons. I already have little desire to do trials and haven't done any to this day as they represent too much elitism and investment of time and tedious min-maxing to be anything like the what I consider "fun."

    I get that some people need that constant "extreme challenge" but to mee that was never what Elder Scrolls was about. I get they need to please all aspects of the audience to keep revenue flowing.

    But to me, with no new zones, no new solo quests, no new exploration, no new factions, no new classes, no new abilities, I am not really seeing much in this DLC for me.

    But for people that thrive on extreme challenge type gaming the new dungeons are probably great.
  • Elloa
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    Yes
    It's a small DLC, but the 2 new Dungeons are really good!
  • Nifty2g
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    Yes
    probably my favorite DLC yet.
    #MOREORBS
  • Phinix1
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    No
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    probably my favorite DLC yet.

    What about it, out of curiosity?

    Do you run the new dungeons with guildies on voice chat?
    Edited by Phinix1 on August 6, 2016 9:15AM
  • Nifty2g
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    Yes
    Phinix1 wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    probably my favorite DLC yet.

    What about it, out of curiosity?

    Do you run the new dungeons with guildies on voice chat?
    This update was pretty much amazing in terms of content. The AA/HRC and DSA scale up is included in the DLC so I bundle them together, the dungeons are pretty fun too, mechanics we haven't seen before

    The update also brought in Name Change, Appearance Change and Race Change, along with the style changes etc for crown store I will include with this DLC.

    All the gear set upgrades made builds so much more viable, the changes to the Maw of Lorkhaj gear sets with Minor Slayer was an amazing and much needed change.

    We also now have instance Item Trading from Bind on Pickup items.

    You may want to reconsider why you think this is a bad update when you notice all the things that actually came with this DLC.
    #MOREORBS
  • WillhelmBlack
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    Yes
    All I've ever asked for. MMO content.
    PC EU
  • Phinix1
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    No
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    We also now have instance Item Trading from Bind on Pickup items.

    This one is actually really cool.

    Just discovered also, it is for ANY BoP (except monster sets) gear that drops ANYWHERE when you are grouped.

    For example: Yesterday I grouped with a guy so he could port to a shrine in Reaper's and while waiting for him killed a world boss which dropped a BoP item. He wasn't even near me at the time (was up at the vamp shrine and he was in Rawl'Kha) but the BoP item was still tradeable.

    I thought it was just dungeon loot too but apparently it's everything.

    Edited by Phinix1 on August 6, 2016 9:29AM
  • Master_Fluff
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    The extra two dungeons makes it less of a repetitive grind to get undaunted to 9.
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  • Moloch1514
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    No
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Phinix1 wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    probably my favorite DLC yet.

    What about it, out of curiosity?

    Do you run the new dungeons with guildies on voice chat?
    This update was pretty much amazing in terms of content. The AA/HRC and DSA scale up is included in the DLC so I bundle them together, the dungeons are pretty fun too, mechanics we haven't seen before

    The update also brought in Name Change, Appearance Change and Race Change, along with the style changes etc for crown store I will include with this DLC.

    All the gear set upgrades made builds so much more viable, the changes to the Maw of Lorkhaj gear sets with Minor Slayer was an amazing and much needed change.

    We also now have instance Item Trading from Bind on Pickup items.

    You may want to reconsider why you think this is a bad update when you notice all the things that actually came with this DLC.

    I think if you are not ESO+, then you got that content as Update (patch) 11. If you wanted the actual new content, then you have the paid DLC. So the OP is polling about the paid content portion, which was only 2 dungeons. All the nice base game features aren't DLC, they just released a major patch on the same day.
    Edited by Moloch1514 on August 6, 2016 2:07PM
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  • Wifeaggro13
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    No
    thats a 60% negative on this DLC this is bad. and its not because it was group content . its because ZOS had no integrity. this DLC when they outlined their road ahead was supposed to contain a full on adventure zone story line and additions to the champion system, and spell crafting that they squashed a long time ago. Paul sage leaving ZOS was a very bad Omen, truly the visionary of the team a long with some other key lead changes has severly hurt the direction of this game.
  • elias.stormneb18_ESO
    Yes
    JD2013 wrote: »
    But I need more story content etc. .

    Oh, the story of both the Cradle of Shadows and the Ruins of Mazzatun are more than enough to satisfy your hunger for three months. Trust me.
  • Bigevilpeter
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    Yes
    The bundle is pretty good, for 2500 you get 2 dungeons a cool mount, a cool pet and 5 xp scrolls.

    the mount, pet and scrolls alone are worth almost 3000
  • Dromede
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    Kinda
    It's alright i suppose, dungeons are fun and challenging. But here's a thing: i'm afraid that they'll nerf the dungeon as a response to qq - and that's when a dlc consisting of 2 easy dungeons only stops making sensr.
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  • Stiltz
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    I'm just glad it's not another dlc full of sneaking around and getting constant bounties on my head.
    Edited by Stiltz on August 6, 2016 6:11PM
  • grumlins
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    cravnbeer wrote: »
    This update gave us a lot of free stuff. The 2 new dungeons are great. If you are a dungeon runner the DLC is def worth it.

    MMOs cost a lot of money to operate. ESO does not require a sub, does not use immersion breaking gambling boxes, all DLCs have been optional. Really will never understand how can people still complain.

    This! This is one of the reasons why I like this game. I sub however which means I get to play it until it loses it's appeal and then move on to the next one to play without the need to buy anything and I get moneys for the things I do actually want to buy like cosmetics!

    This game rocks.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Not at this particular moment...
  • Faustes
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    No
    Not at all - because I can't even access the content. The dungeon finder is broken.
  • Kendaric
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    No
    I've no interest in dungeons or trials, so I wouldn't buy it. All that interests me in Update 11 is part of the base game patch.
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