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Favoritism starts when...
magnusthorek
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... Molag Kena provides both Spell and Weapon Damage and one of the new sets provides exclusively Weapon Damage.
So now Stamina players can make a 5/5/1/1 build and become even more stronger!
I'm sorry, I had to complain about something in this patch...
Edited by magnusthorek on August 3, 2016 1:14PM So now Stamina players can make a 5/5/1/1 build and become even more stronger!
I'm sorry, I had to complain about something in this patch...
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My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't see the problem, honestly. Yes, so what, Stamina got a new set: But ain't that a good thing? I mean, new sets > Might get people to challenge the Stamina-meta, so that Stam-builds gets more diversity!
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✭I'm a Magicka user (for now) so no, let me be cranky >.<I am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I would guess OP is referring to the fact that a stam user can now use 5/5/1/1 for two weapon damage 1-piece bonuses. Not that I understand why you would want to do that and lose a 2-piece monster set bonus, that is way more effective and beneficial than another 126 weapon damage, but I guess you have to find reasons to complain somewhere.2 -
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✭✭✭So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.2 -
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✭Yeah, let me edit that, 5/5/1/1 is the correct
Both Valkyn and Nerien'eth are base on percentual chance. I have both and they don't proc all the time to be that much viable in some scenariosStrider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
But a Spell/Weapon Damage buff that's "on" all the time, affecting all abilities is something much better IMHOStrider_Roshin wrote: »No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
Which one is that? I know Health and Magicka Regen (Orzorga's Red Frthgar) that comes in Stamina flavor with Orzorga's Triffle Pocket. But one that gives HP, Magicka AND Magicka regen is new to meEdited by magnusthorek on August 3, 2016 1:17PMI am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
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Mady✭✭✭✭✭When stamina got buffed, I changed to magicka. Don't exactly know why....probably searching challenges.
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭Well stamina need a buff anyway, we used it to roll dodge, to block, to sprint, to use stamina based skills etc0 -
AugustoCP✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
Wait what
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✭✭✭magnusthorek wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
Which one is that? I know Health and Magicka Regen (Orzorga's Red Frthgar) that comes in Stamina flavor with Orzorga's Triffle Pocket. But one that gives HP, Magicka AND Magicka regen is new to meStrider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
Wait what
Name please?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/277262/new-recipes-from-the-witches-festival-event/p1Edited by Strider_Roshin on August 3, 2016 1:26PM2 -
bertenburnyb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »I don't see the problem, honestly. Yes, so what, Stamina got a new set: But ain't that a good thing? I mean, new sets > Might get people to challenge the Stamina-meta, so that Stam-builds gets more diversity!
LOL no, meta will just shift to new most powerfull build, and 2 sets with 1piece weapon dam bonus.... Guess what new meta will be....Haze Ramoran Dunmer Dragonknight Tank/Dps – Smoked-Da-Herb Saxheel Templar Tank/Healer
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✭While magicka did get a nice set this DLC you cant deny weve been getting the short straw lately when it comes to sets.Edited by Makkir on August 3, 2016 1:31PM2 -
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✭✭✭magnusthorek wrote: »Yeah, let me edit that, 5/5/1/1 is the correct
Both Valkyn and Nerien'eth are base on percentual chance. I have both and they don't proc all the time to be that much viable in some scenariosStrider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
But a Spell/Weapon Damage buff that's "on" all the time, affecting all abilities is something much better IMHO
My Skoria procs 2 to 3 times in 10 seconds with my DK since I stack DoTs for days; making the skoria 2 piece superior DPS when compared to the new 2 piece stamina set. The 1 piece perk that Velidreth has makes it a little more comparable. The thing that makes Velidreth a little better than skoria in PvP is that it's harder to recover from than the meteors from Skoria. Overall it's a pretty balance set; a lot of magicka users are just bum hurt because stamina got a new toy.
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Thanks for the info, but they don't exist yet, do they?Strider_Roshin wrote: »Edited by magnusthorek on August 3, 2016 1:38PMI am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
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✭✭✭magnusthorek wrote: »
Thanks for the info, but they don't exist yet, do they?Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Did I not say "favoritism starts when..."? Another words there currently isn't favoritism but we know there will be. Soon....0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Give us a monster set with a max magicka or mag regen 1-piece bonus, and a second one with a one piece spell damage bonus, and that will be parity.Edited by Reverb on August 3, 2016 1:50PMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche5 -
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Although we have Molag Kena as one piece Spell Damage, I agree. I'm kind of envy of Bloospawn sometimes...Give us a monster set with a max magicka or mag regen 1-piece bonus, and a second one with a one piece spell damage bonus, and that will be parity.Edited by magnusthorek on August 3, 2016 1:57PMI am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology).
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xilfxlegion✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
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✭xilfxlegion wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
Which recipe is that ?
Already a link posted above..0 -
xilfxlegion✭✭✭✭✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
Which recipe is that ?
Already a link posted above..
ty. i saw that after i posted.
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✭xilfxlegion wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »xilfxlegion wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »So magicka gets Nerien'eth, and Skoria and it's all good. Stamina gets a 2 piece set, and all of a sudden it's an issue lol.
No, favoritism starts when magicka gets a recipe that's gives max magicka, max health, and magicka regen, but stamina doesn't get a stamina version.
Which recipe is that ?
Already a link posted above..
ty. i saw that after i posted.
when do these come out ?
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✭✭✭✭✭magnusthorek wrote: »
And that's the point. Kena benefits mag and stam builds equally (which is good), but it's the only direct, consistent monster set benefit for mag builds.
Stam builds have Kena, Bloodspawn, and now a second set with a one-piece weapon damage bonus. So a stam user that doesn't want to build around a proc chance (like mag builds need to do with Nerien'eth and Valkyn) has the option to stack different, consistent 1-piece perks.
I love that flexibility on stam builds. I just want the same flexibility and options on my mages.Edited by Reverb on August 3, 2016 6:12PMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't have as much of an issue with Velidreth remaining uniquely Stamina-based as I do with:
• Nightflame not having its proc rate/healing buffed, and the 1-piece not giving Magicka Regeneration
• Nerien'eth not getting its 1-piece changed to Spell Damage
We shouldn't having so many 1-piece Max Health bonuses.Edited by Vaoh on August 3, 2016 4:31PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You could argue that favoritism started with the need to equip melee weapons for maximum spell damage.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
Essiaga✭✭✭✭You could argue that favoritism started with the need to equip melee weapons for maximum spell damage.
... when low cost dawn breaker went completely stamina ... I'm glad there are phys ults for sure, I think meteor should have a phys morph rather then both Dawn breakers going phys though. It sure is anticlimactic to hit Fighters Guild 10 on a magicka build and Mages Guild 10 on a stam build ... nothing more then an achievement.
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