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Vicecanon Ninja Nerf?

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Hi, don't know if this is a bug or a ninja nerf...but anyways

This used to be able to proc when you were cloaked [which means you're crouching yes?] It now no longer does that. It also used to proc on initial caltrops hit and it doesn't do that either now. Please respond, thank you
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Mutagentleman - AD Magicka Templar - Palatine
Mutageneticist - AD Magicka Sorcerer - Corporal
  • Alcast
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    this is a bugfix iirc
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  • Rylana
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    lol, why am i not surprised AD was abusing yet another bug
    Edited by Rylana on August 2, 2016 8:29AM
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  • Mutagem
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    Alcast wrote: »
    this is a bugfix iirc

    I didn't see it in the patch notes though so I am confused. Also googling didn't bring out any staff comments on the forums or anything
    Rylana wrote: »
    lol, why am i not surprised AD was abusing yet another bug

    .....Your current Emp is a Malubeth user lol Kind of ironic you'd say that though considering you were apart of a 2 hour Roebeck Lm tower farming expedition last night in Azura's Star
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  • Rylana
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    Mutagem wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    this is a bugfix iirc

    I didn't see it in the patch notes though so I am confused. Also googling didn't bring out any staff comments on the forums or anything
    Rylana wrote: »
    lol, why am i not surprised AD was abusing yet another bug

    .....Your current Emp is a Malubeth user lol Kind of ironic you'd say that though considering you were apart of a 2 hour Roebeck Lm tower farming expedition last night in Azura's Star

    You mean the expedition where EP got a 31k offensive tick when we finally decided to take Roebeck? Pretty sure the only faction getting farmed was AD, kek.

    But I digress.
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    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Eh? It can't proc from stealth? LOL. What is the point in this set then now? It's literally designed for use with NB and Shadowy Disguise.
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  • Rylana
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    Eh? It can't proc from stealth? LOL. What is the point in this set then now? It's literally designed for use with NB and Shadowy Disguise.

    No, its designed for use for literally any stamina build as a first-off initial stealth strike, not as a spam shadowy and keep spamming snipe sorta deal, lel
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    Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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  • Mutagem
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Mutagem wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    this is a bugfix iirc

    I didn't see it in the patch notes though so I am confused. Also googling didn't bring out any staff comments on the forums or anything
    Rylana wrote: »
    lol, why am i not surprised AD was abusing yet another bug

    .....Your current Emp is a Malubeth user lol Kind of ironic you'd say that though considering you were apart of a 2 hour Roebeck Lm tower farming expedition last night in Azura's Star

    You mean the expedition where EP got a 31k offensive tick when we finally decided to take Roebeck? Pretty sure the only faction getting farmed was AD, kek.

    But I digress.

    Selective with your responses hey? Ignoring the Malubeth comment on exploiting lol hypocrite. Please go away and stop trolling the thread Also for the record you guys tower farmed for 2 hours before actually attacking roebeck
    Eh? It can't proc from stealth? LOL. What is the point in this set then now? It's literally designed for use with NB and Shadowy Disguise.

    Yeah that's what bugs me about it now. Kind of a waste of money getting the set now. hopefully someone responds with confirmation of a nerf or if its just a patch bug
    Edited by Mutagem on August 2, 2016 8:54AM
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    Mutageneticist - AD Magicka Sorcerer - Corporal
  • juhasman
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    @Mutagem cloak and crouch are 2 separate things. Crouch gives You hide cloak gives You invisibility.
  • Shader_Shibes
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    Well that's just *** great.
  • Mutagem
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    juhasman wrote: »
    @Mutagem cloak and crouch are 2 separate things. Crouch gives You hide cloak gives You invisibility.

    bummer :/ wish I didn't buy this set now it was expensive
    Well that's just *** great.

    can't tell if sarcastic...but yeah this sucks
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  • Rylana
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    Oh, and since you accuse me of dodging a question, Mutagem, I have no idea what gear the EP emperor runs, nor have I asked.

    I dont run malubeth, nor do any of the regular members of my guild.

    yet day by day i see you 40 deep surrounded by a virtual army of malubads.

    Funny how today they simply melted into so much vapor the moment they got touched. Tsk, perhaps if AD relied on fundamental game mechanics and not broken things, such as your apparent issue here with the OP, you might get better at the game, just saying.

    Failing that, I suppose you could try to wall repair in my group again, while practically your entire faction sits on siege and doesnt even try to engage us.

    Incidentally, hows that bombard spam working out for yall now?

    As said above me, it is working as it was originally intended, its not meant to be an effect you generate over and over, its an initial.
    Edited by Rylana on August 2, 2016 9:01AM
    @rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
    Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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  • Mutagem
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    For the love of all things holy is there a way to block seeing messages from trolls on forums? Try and ask a question and get troll baited into some silly nonsense I care nothing about. SMH
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    Mutagentleman - AD Magicka Templar - Palatine
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  • dwtdwtdwt
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    I just tested this and was able to proc it just by using Shadowy Disguise. I never went into crouch mode. It must be used when attacking with Shadowy Disguise morph for the guaranteed crit, since the set only procs off critical hits. You still have to get a critical hit, even when in crouch with any class. I see no change in how it has worked... yet. Still prevents you from returning to crouch while the effect is active though.. That's the only bug I've noticed. And that has been the case since the set went live.
    Rylana wrote: »
    Eh? It can't proc from stealth? LOL. What is the point in this set then now? It's literally designed for use with NB and Shadowy Disguise.

    No, its designed for use for literally any stamina build as a first-off initial stealth strike, not as a spam shadowy and keep spamming snipe sorta deal, lel

    Yes it is.

    Edited by dwtdwtdwt on August 2, 2016 9:29AM
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  • Truewavesound
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    Still definitely works for me from cloak mate. Tested multiple times and always shows as debuffed, me being healed by it and on the dps report. Not sure what you've been smoking :)
  • Alcast
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    Mutagem wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    this is a bugfix iirc

    I didn't see it in the patch notes though so I am confused. Also googling didn't bring out any staff comments on the forums or anything
    Rylana wrote: »
    lol, why am i not surprised AD was abusing yet another bug

    .....Your current Emp is a Malubeth user lol Kind of ironic you'd say that though considering you were apart of a 2 hour Roebeck Lm tower farming expedition last night in Azura's Star

    Some changes are not documented, like usual. they seem to "forget" some or they just do not want ppl to know.
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  • olsborg
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    Only thing they changed about the set was it reproccing on its own dmg (if you cloaked) and that you couldnt supress it with cloak. afaik

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  • Funkopotamus
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    Mutagem wrote: »
    For the love of all things holy is there a way to block seeing messages from trolls on forums? Try and ask a question and get troll baited into some silly nonsense I care nothing about. SMH

    Yes you can block trolls..

    And yes SMH for AD because we rock!

    I can remember console release days when the only time AD lost map domination was when DC/EP actually truced up and communicated through XBLive party chat to try and stop us.

    Heh..

    TBH though.. ESO is NOT the game to talk smack when it comes to PvP..

    ESO PvP is not a matter of skill.. Sadly it is more based on Zurg balls.
    Edited by Funkopotamus on August 2, 2016 11:19AM
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  • Hellbender27
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    Alcast wrote: »
    this is a bugfix iirc

    *wave* O/
  • Shader_Shibes
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    Mutagem wrote: »
    juhasman wrote: »
    @Mutagem cloak and crouch are 2 separate things. Crouch gives You hide cloak gives You invisibility.

    bummer :/ wish I didn't buy this set now it was expensive
    Well that's just *** great.

    can't tell if sarcastic...but yeah this sucks

    Definitely not sarcastic :/
  • Mutagem
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    I retested it and it sort of works from cloak still but it absolutely does not proc all the time either though. Many times i've been crouched and it just doesn't proc. This really sucks
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  • Truewavesound
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    Mutagem wrote: »
    I retested it and it sort of works from cloak still but it absolutely does not proc all the time either though. Many times i've been crouched and it just doesn't proc. This really sucks

    Works every time for me. Sucks to be you!
  • Leandor
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    They did actually fix that turd of a set? Halleluja.

    Just to be clear, you can't reproc it by cloaking anymore?
  • Maztiax
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    YAY RANDOM PVP DRAMA
  • Zielijiek
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    Leandor wrote: »
    They did actually fix that turd of a set? Halleluja.

    Just to be clear, you can't reproc it by cloaking anymore?

    Is this confirmed?

    Let fate be your guide.
  • leepalmer95
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    Mutagem wrote: »
    I retested it and it sort of works from cloak still but it absolutely does not proc all the time either though. Many times i've been crouched and it just doesn't proc. This really sucks

    Works every time for me. Sucks to be you!

    Oh so it's still bugged?

    Knowing zos tried to fix it and the set isn't mean't to proc off cloak and you use it anyway and proc it off cloak, does that make you an exploiter?

    People have been banned for using bugged gear before.
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Rylana wrote: »
    lol, why am i not surprised DC was abusing yet another bug

    Fixed.
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