Khajiit Race Passives not changed?

TerraPython · August 2016

I was under the impression that the Khajiit race were loosing their health regen in exchange for some tasty max stamina.

The passive was supposed to be +10% Max stamina and +10% Stamina Regen or something like that.

What happened and why? :-(

khele23eb17_ESO · August 2016

It would make Khajiit hands down the strongest stam dps race. Youd be seriously gimping your stam character if you didnt pick a Khajiit. They nerfed Redguards and buffed Bosmer a bit instead.

Valve · August 2016

People complained that it would make Khajiit overwhelmingly the best race for PvE so they reverted the change.

Personally I can understand why, but Khajiit need some love in PvP where their crit passive is no way near as useful.

Lord_Eomer · August 2016

The change was to reduce health recovery passive to 0 and Increase max stamina by 6% but unfortunately players at forum made so much noise and zenimax roll backed this change.

Instead Bosmer recieved 3% more stamina and now have total 6% max stamina.

Edit : corrected Health recovery from 20% to 0

TerraPython · August 2016

Why does everyone need to moan about everything. Everything always gets nerfed.

I for one was really looking forward to that change.

Some races need to be better than others in some areas, otherwise we will all end up with exactly the same chars in exactly the same skills.

No fair!

khele23eb17_ESO · August 2016

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

The change was to reduce health recovery to 20% and Increase max stamina by 6% but unfortunately players at forum made so much noise and zenimax roll backed this change.

Im pretty sure its not because of the noise of the forums. The threads might have tipped them off to have a look at this change but they were not the reason why eventually the buff got axed. There have been plenty of changes which ZoS did not revert despite forum noise. Remeber poisons? The outcry against skill cost increasing poisons was insane. What did ZoS do? The made the poisons twice as strong.

Preyfar · August 2016

Because with Khajiit crit, the stamina is ridiculously overpowered for PVE. I think it would be a great thing for PVP, where almost all of the Khajiit racials have extremely limited use. Just turn that 20% health regen into 10% health bonus. Or improve Khajiit's base health regen so health regen is somewhat interesting.

What ZOS should do:
Nimble: "Increases your Health Recovery by 150 and provides an additional 20% Health Recovery from all sources."

This would at least make the baseline for health better. Still not great, but better. Although I still don't know why 20% health recovery makes me nimble.

Looking at my Stamblade, Preyfar, I've got 20% health recovery and my overall health recovery is 417. I'm getting extra health recovery of around 83 (from a base of about 334). That means I can an extra 40-something health a second while wearing medium armor. THAT'S TERRIBLE. Completely and utterly useless. Okay, its better if I equip full heavy armor and pop a health regen potion. I'll be great then, but that's mostly good for one build - a regen tank.

There's almost no situation in the game (short of a said specific regen tank build) where health regen is better than, say, adding 5,000+ base health from food. Not unless you're stacking it up en masse.

Lord_Eomer · August 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

The change was to reduce health recovery to 20% and Increase max stamina by 6% but unfortunately players at forum made so much noise and zenimax roll backed this change.

Im pretty sure its not because of the noise of the forums. The threads might have tipped them off to have a look at this change but they were not the reason why eventually the buff got axed. There have been plenty of changes which ZoS did not revert despite forum noise. Remeber poisons? The outcry against skill cost increasing poisons was insane. What did ZoS do? The made the poisons twice as strong.

It was forum outcry during PTS testing, lot of players were complaining about losing health recovery (was repkacing wih stamina 6%) and khajit getting over powered wih 6% max stamina.

Gargath · August 2016

Also Nord tanks now suffer a bit by reduced hp regen from 30 to 20%, instead have more stamina for blocking, so no worries

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Lord_Eomer · August 2016

Lot of outcry was there, after rollback i created poll but still lot of players were aginst stamina increse passive.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/277983/khajit-nimble-passive-rollback/p1

mb10 · August 2016

Is there any page with CORRECT racial passive information anywhere???

Its 2016 and the racial passives are all rumours at the moment what on Earth is going on?

I had no idea about them reverting the Khajiit changes can SOMEONE from ZOS PLEASE update the freaking patch notes??

Gargath · August 2016

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Racial+Skills

Lord_Eomer · August 2016

Gargath wrote: »

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Racial+Skills

The site is showing still wrong bosmer maximum stamina stat 3%

Bigevilpeter · August 2016

Personally with that change I was gonna be forced to race change to a khajiht since they can basically do everything. The best in PvE, the best thieves and assassins and even second best pvp with that buff, no reason to play any other stamina dps race other than maybe reguard.

Now with these changes each stamina race has it role.

Reguard, best PvE/PvP sustain
Orc, more defensive dps race or Tank
Bosmer, 2nd Best PvP and best thieves/assasins along with khajiht.
Khajiht, best PvE Dps and thieves/assasins along with bosmer
Nords, Tie for best tanks with Imperial
Imperial, best overall well rounded stamina race that can fit most things

TequilaFire · August 2016

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

The change was to reduce health recovery to 20% and Increase max stamina by 6% but unfortunately players at forum made so much noise and zenimax roll backed this change.

Im pretty sure its not because of the noise of the forums. The threads might have tipped them off to have a look at this change but they were not the reason why eventually the buff got axed. There have been plenty of changes which ZoS did not revert despite forum noise. Remeber poisons? The outcry against skill cost increasing poisons was insane. What did ZoS do? The made the poisons twice as strong.

Ah but you can sell poisons in the crown store so of course they were pushed.

idk · August 2016

TerraPython wrote: »

I was under the impression that the Khajiit race were loosing their health regen in exchange for some tasty max stamina.

The passive was supposed to be +10% Max stamina and +10% Stamina Regen or something like that.

What happened and why? :-(

Did you read the patch notes, or at least keep up with the PTS patch notes each week? Much changed since the first PTS patch notes.