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Fix Imperial passive tooltip please

Saucy_Jack
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So the new Imperial passive says "Increase gold gained by 1%".

Sadly, after testing, this does not apply to guild or vendor sales. If by "gold gained" it meant "gold gained from looting mobs and chests" the tooltip should reflect this.
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  • Whatzituyah
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    So the new Imperial passive says "Increase gold gained by 1%".

    Sadly, after testing, this does not apply to guild or vendor sales. If by "gold gained" it meant "gold gained from looting mobs and chests" the tooltip should reflect this.

    So wait you expect gold to magically appear when you sell on the guild store that someone say paid 10 gold and expect to get 1 extra piece because of tool tip? I agree it should be changed but does that make gameplay sense? Can you trade 10 gold and the imperial get 11? Just wondering what ZOS was thinking making that tool tip.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    So the new Imperial passive says "Increase gold gained by 1%".

    Sadly, after testing, this does not apply to guild or vendor sales. If by "gold gained" it meant "gold gained from looting mobs and chests" the tooltip should reflect this.

    So wait you expect gold to magically appear when you sell on the guild store that someone say paid 10 gold and expect to get 1 extra piece because of tool tip? I agree it should be changed but does that make gameplay sense? Can you trade 10 gold and the imperial get 11? Just wondering what ZOS was thinking making that tool tip.

    That reminds me of the Ferengi in STO.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • Whatzituyah
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    So the new Imperial passive says "Increase gold gained by 1%".

    Sadly, after testing, this does not apply to guild or vendor sales. If by "gold gained" it meant "gold gained from looting mobs and chests" the tooltip should reflect this.

    So wait you expect gold to magically appear when you sell on the guild store that someone say paid 10 gold and expect to get 1 extra piece because of tool tip? I agree it should be changed but does that make gameplay sense? Can you trade 10 gold and the imperial get 11? Just wondering what ZOS was thinking making that tool tip.

    That reminds me of the Ferengi in STO.

    Is that an insult or compliment? Im confused and puzzled thats all. @dodgehopper_ESO
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    @Whatzituyah - It was not intended as either insult or compliment, just functionality, particularly with respect to that player's understanding of getting more money out of a particular race. The Ferengi in STO does better on NPC interactions, so when people know they're going to do high volume of npc transactions they will make sure to do so on their Ferengi. Having seen this in practice in the past, its not that great, but then again its a little bit annoying as well. Beyond that observation I really don't have any particular feelings about the issue, and didn't mean it as an insult/compliment.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • Whatzituyah
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    @dodgehopper_ESO I thought you were saying I was that race sorry. But I get what you said that it would be a bad practice along with ap farming on Bretons.
    Edited by Whatzituyah on August 2, 2016 1:12AM
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    @dodgehopper_ESO I thought you were saying I was that race sorry. But I get what you said that it would be a bad practice along with ap farming on Bretons.

    I actually like the Breton AP bonus more, as long as it does not effect any pvp leaderboards. They could conceivably separate the two. It really depends upon how it is designed, and I have no idea how it is designed. I feel badly for Orcs as their crafting inspiration bonus seems pretty worthless once you've maxed out all crafts. Likewise I don't understand how people can think the Dunmer lava resistance is worthless, considering how helpful it could potentially be in maps like Valkyn Skoria. Its just fluff, but its fluff that's actually helpful at the least in dungeon-going, something a lot of passives can't say.
    Edited by dodgehopper_ESO on August 2, 2016 1:19AM
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • Saucy_Jack
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    Wasn't there a race in either Oblivion or Skyrim that gave better prices from NPC vendors? I can understand not getting more from guild sales, but it would've been easy to tack a multiplier (1.01) onto the NPC vendor price calculation.

    Granted, NPC vendor prices in this game are completely underwhelming, so you wouldn't make any gold off it anyway.
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  • Saucy_Jack
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    Also - and this is a complete aside from this conversation - as a more or less pure PVE player whose main is a Breton, I'm...not thrilled about the new passive. Could've used that exp gain from the Altmer.
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    Also - and this is a complete aside from this conversation - as a more or less pure PVE player whose main is a Breton, I'm...not thrilled about the new passive. Could've used that exp gain from the Altmer.

    At least this bonus has diminishing returns. The closer you get to 501 cp (or whatever the current cap is) the less valuable that experience bonus becomes. It will however make Altmer the go-to race for farming CP.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • Holycannoli
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    Breton has in my opinion the best passive hands down.

    And like was asked in my thread, how does the imperial 1% bonus work for gold amounts under 100? You loot 50 gold from a mob and you get 50.5 gold? It doesn't work. It's a pretty useless bonus. It would MUCH rather have 1% extra AP.
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