Population imbalance in PS4's sub-50 campaign

pecheckler · July 2016

There is a big population imbalance in PS4's under 50 campaign. Can something be done about this? Off peak hours DC is 2/3 while AD and pact are 1/3, during peak hours DC is "full" while AD and pact are 1/3 and sometimes 2/3 population. It's been this way for the last two weeks as i've participated daily. At this very moment, DC is taking two scrolls at once, one from AD and another Pact. Each of their two forces is larger than the size of the entire opposing army they face at each gate.

I thought this was supposed to be PvP, not granting victory by default to whichever side has the most players. Population should be capped per faction so under-50 players can enjoy the same population balance we have in the standard campaign.

Ep1kMalware · July 2016

pecheckler wrote: »

There is a big population imbalance in PS4's under 50 campaign. Can something be done about this? Off peak hours DC is 2/3 while AD and pact are 1/3, during peak hours DC is "full" while AD and pact are 1/3 and sometimes 2/3 population. It's been this way for the last two weeks as i've participated daily. At this very moment, DC is taking two scrolls at once, one from AD and another Pact. Each of their two forces is larger than the size of the entire opposing army they face at each gate.

I thought this was supposed to be PvP, not granting victory by default to whichever side has the most players. Population should be capped per faction so under-50 players can enjoy the same population balance we have in the standard campaign.

a lot of campaignes are lije that tbh. I think it's timezone differences with alot of guilds. One I used to play in (haderous?) would be completwly yellow. But in the later hours reds would flip the ,ap, so we'd have some fun lower scale battles taking the keeps back.

it's not a bad thing, it's just the majority of the players log off for the night is all.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

You talking about PS4 NA Blackwater Blade Campaign? If so, I disagree. Sure DC tends to outnumber at times when all 3 sides do not fill up but numbers do not necessarily mean automatic victory. The better coordinated side wins because numbers without coordination just fall apart when a coordinated legion hits the scene.

CherryCake · July 2016

What could they even do about it? Force all the people to play at one time?... I know what you mean, on PS4 EU is very annoying sometimes but I doubt ZOS can do anything about it, unless we kind of force our friends to join our campaign and pvp xDDD...which I failed at for the most part.

Curragraigue · July 2016

I've been playing in NA BWB PS4 the last few weeks and when I'm on there is an AD train running around the map they are usually 3 bars to DC and EP 1-2 bar. Swings and roundabouts for player populations as with every campaign.

The AP is delicious when I'm on because the AD love to stand in siege around keeps.

pecheckler · July 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

What could they even do about it? Force all the people to play at one time?... I know what you mean, on PS4 EU is very annoying sometimes but I doubt ZOS can do anything about it, unless we kind of force our friends to join our campaign and pvp xDDD...which I failed at for the most part.

Add a queue so that all three factions have the same number of players. If two factions have 200 players and another has 300, then make those 100 wait. It's not fair otherwise.

Curragraigue · July 2016

pecheckler wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

What could they even do about it? Force all the people to play at one time?... I know what you mean, on PS4 EU is very annoying sometimes but I doubt ZOS can do anything about it, unless we kind of force our friends to join our campaign and pvp xDDD...which I failed at for the most part.

Add a queue so that all three factions have the same number of players. If two factions have 200 players and another has 300, then make those 100 wait. It's not fair otherwise.

Do you also stop people from going into delves, doing dolmens or IC? What about people doing quests? You can't control players nor is numbers the only way to win, a good quality raid can win against 3-4 times their numbers.

It has been an issue raised a number of times but there are so many factors involved to maintain balance and to make it fun for everyone that they don't have a solution for it.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Curragraigue wrote: »

I've been playing in NA BWB PS4 the last few weeks and when I'm on there is an AD train running around the map they are usually 3 bars to DC and EP 1-2 bar. Swings and roundabouts for player populations as with every campaign.

The AP is delicious when I'm on because the AD love to stand in siege around keeps.

I admit AD is not THAT organized on BWB (I should know because I'm AD lol) so once they gain momentum DC organizes and starts pushing back. However, there are SOME AD players that organize legions quite well.

Xundiin · July 2016

pecheckler wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

What could they even do about it? Force all the people to play at one time?... I know what you mean, on PS4 EU is very annoying sometimes but I doubt ZOS can do anything about it, unless we kind of force our friends to join our campaign and pvp xDDD...which I failed at for the most part.

Add a queue so that all three factions have the same number of players. If two factions have 200 players and another has 300, then make those 100 wait. It's not fair otherwise.

That's not how a 3 faction pvp system is designed to work. It's suppose to be that if you are out numbered by one faction the other two team up to make it more even. Problem is you have a bunch of kiddies running around screaming "RED IS DEAD!!" at the top of their lungs making it impossible for the system to work as it was designed.

Maztiax · July 2016

Preposterous, DC is never poplocked. Those are obviously EP parking their alts on DC to prevent the real MVPs from playing on the server, anybody with half a brain knows this.

DC always fights fair, never zergs, never outnumbers the opposition, and always wins through sheer skill and resourcefulness. Bow down before the superior might of the lion, all you dragonborn/thalmor wannabe plebs

bedlom · July 2016

Maztiax wrote: »

Preposterous, DC is never poplocked. Those are obviously EP parking their alts on DC to prevent the real MVPs from playing on the server, anybody with half a brain knows this.

DC always fights fair, never zergs, never outnumbers the opposition, and always wins through sheer skill and resourcefulness. Bow down before the superior might of the lion, all you dragonborn/thalmor wannabe plebs

My battle against DC last night would suggest otherwise ; )

Xundiin · July 2016

Maztiax wrote: »

Preposterous, DC is never poplocked. Those are obviously EP parking their alts on DC to prevent the real MVPs from playing on the server, anybody with half a brain knows this.

DC always fights fair, never zergs, never outnumbers the opposition, and always wins through sheer skill and resourcefulness. Bow down before the superior might of the lion, all you dragonborn/thalmor wannabe plebs

I've heard this joke before. It's getting stale.

Maztiax · July 2016

Xundiin wrote: »

Maztiax wrote: »

Preposterous, DC is never poplocked. Those are obviously EP parking their alts on DC to prevent the real MVPs from playing on the server, anybody with half a brain knows this.

DC always fights fair, never zergs, never outnumbers the opposition, and always wins through sheer skill and resourcefulness. Bow down before the superior might of the lion, all you dragonborn/thalmor wannabe plebs

I've heard this joke before. It's getting stale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgOaT4xzdvo

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Maztiax wrote: »

Xundiin wrote: »

Maztiax wrote: »

Preposterous, DC is never poplocked. Those are obviously EP parking their alts on DC to prevent the real MVPs from playing on the server, anybody with half a brain knows this.

DC always fights fair, never zergs, never outnumbers the opposition, and always wins through sheer skill and resourcefulness. Bow down before the superior might of the lion, all you dragonborn/thalmor wannabe plebs

I've heard this joke before. It's getting stale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgOaT4xzdvo

If that was not a loop at 0:22 and it kept increasing it would literally drive people mad.

Curragraigue · July 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Curragraigue wrote: »

I've been playing in NA BWB PS4 the last few weeks and when I'm on there is an AD train running around the map they are usually 3 bars to DC and EP 1-2 bar. Swings and roundabouts for player populations as with every campaign.

The AP is delicious when I'm on because the AD love to stand in siege around keeps.

I admit AD is not THAT organized on BWB (I should know because I'm AD lol) so once they gain momentum DC organizes and starts pushing back. However, there are SOME AD players that organize legions quite well.

They are all really disorganised on BWB, the joy of Non-Vet PvP

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Curragraigue wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Curragraigue wrote: »

I've been playing in NA BWB PS4 the last few weeks and when I'm on there is an AD train running around the map they are usually 3 bars to DC and EP 1-2 bar. Swings and roundabouts for player populations as with every campaign.

The AP is delicious when I'm on because the AD love to stand in siege around keeps.

I admit AD is not THAT organized on BWB (I should know because I'm AD lol) so once they gain momentum DC organizes and starts pushing back. However, there are SOME AD players that organize legions quite well.

They are all really disorganised on BWB, the joy of Non-Vet PvP

Not always. I've seen some good groups pull together and PvP coordinated and successfully. Of course I don't go to BWB as much anymore due to hitting Lv50 with alts but when I do it's like that at times.