Is there an alternative to this pvp?

Drdeath20 · July 2016

This games pvp is just awful. Segregated skills always leads to imbalances. The most skill involved in this game is resource tower spamming and that's not saying much. The campaigns are too long and usually imbalanced. Very limited fight mechanics. No real top end game design. Tons of rng. Most fights it's all about who has the most numbers, who has the best gear, who has the most CP's, or funneling and not a whole lot about fight mechanics.

So I'm reaching out to the pvp community and asking what else is out there? I would really rather go back to Cod than this and that's saying something.

Forestd16b14_ESO · July 2016

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

Drdeath20 · July 2016

I literally watched a sap tank nightblade sink into the wall in a resource tower and sap essence from there. Eso is not for hardcore gamers.

notimetocare · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

I literally watched a sap tank nightblade sink into the wall in a resource tower and sap essence from there. Eso is not for hardcore gamers.

No game is for hardcore players. Almost every game that is successful to any degree will cater to casual and midrange players while having some satisfaction available for higher end players, but rarely (iof ever) hardcore gamers.

Samuel_Bantien · July 2016

Dueling guilds are quite fun! You really should give it a try!

Drdeath20 · July 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

Drdeath20 · July 2016

notimetocare wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

I literally watched a sap tank nightblade sink into the wall in a resource tower and sap essence from there. Eso is not for hardcore gamers.

No game is for hardcore players. Almost every game that is successful to any degree will cater to casual and midrange players while having some satisfaction available for higher end players, but rarely (iof ever) hardcore gamers.

Yeah true. Atleast games like cod everyone is on level playing field and if you don't like the people you are playing against/with just quit ,for free, and find a new match in 10 seconds or less, for free. People play endless hours of that out of fun and not bcz of rng.

Drdeath20 · July 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels. Perhaps a stale move mechanic that actually causes use of a specific skill to gradually decrease its effects if nothing is used in-between?

Drdeath20 · July 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

PurifedBladez · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

I think all of these things come into play.. lol.

Edit - Yeah the definitely do.

Superschwizer · July 2016

Neverwinter anyone? (Just released on ps4)
Havent tried it yet, but sure looks promising

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

To be fair those first 3 DO apply lol and I too would like to see some form of actual mobility apply in combat to cause various effects. For instance, leaping from a height onto an enemy and attacking them could do increased damage.

PurifedBladez · July 2016

Superschwizer wrote: »

Neverwinter anyone? (Just released on ps4)
Havent tried it yet, but sure looks promising

Oh gawd.. lol.

You'll be back here shortly.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Superschwizer wrote: »

Skyrim HD anyone? (Coming soon on ps4 and xbox one)
Havent tried it yet, but sure looks promising

FTFY

PurifedBladez · July 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Superschwizer wrote: »

Skyrim HD anyone? (Coming soon on ps4 and xbox one)
Havent tried it yet, but sure looks promising

FTFY

Lol. So true.

Drdeath20 · July 2016

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

I think all of these things come into play.. lol.

Edit - Yeah the definitely do.

Accuracy, power? How so?

Drdeath20 · July 2016

Superschwizer wrote: »

Neverwinter anyone? (Just released on ps4)
Havent tried it yet, but sure looks promising

Thank you I'll have to look into that

Drdeath20 · July 2016

Superschwizer wrote: »

Neverwinter anyone? (Just released on ps4)
Havent tried it yet, but sure looks promising

Thank you I'll have to look into that

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

To be fair those first 3 DO apply lol and I too would like to see some form of actual mobility apply in combat to cause various effects. For instance, leaping from a height onto an enemy and attacking them could do increased damage.

Pivot, side steps, lunge, spin, jump attacks, slide, hard aiming etc.

PurifedBladez · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

I think all of these things come into play.. lol.

Edit - Yeah the definitely do.

Accuracy, power? How so?

Power.. that's obvious right? Lol. Also what? Lol

Accuracy also obvious? Lol. You can just be looking at the ground spamming a spamable.

And if you think your just gonna spam one ability the whole time your probably gonna get smacked.

Drdeath20 · July 2016

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

I think all of these things come into play.. lol.

Edit - Yeah the definitely do.

Accuracy, power? How so?

Power.. that's obvious right? Lol. Also what? Lol

Accuracy also obvious? Lol. You can just be looking at the ground spamming a spamable.

And if you think your just gonna spam one ability the whole time your probably gonna get smacked.

You really feel like you have to aim ranged attacks? Yah there are a few. But most the time people spam those by starring straight down. No the aiming is a joke. Can you control the power you want to deliver your attacks? Yeah light attacks and heavy but not much after that.

If you think that there is much skill involved in this game then I truly feel sorry for you. Just run around cyrodil. Usually it's a group of CP 501s spamming a resource tower. Yeah it's truly pathetic.
#skill

Drdeath20 · July 2016

The entire premise of this game is all about out numbering. More champion points. More guys. Better armor. Etc. There is no skill. Oh and don't get me started on the bombard assault spam. So yeah I would like to know if there are any good fantasy games that require actual hand eye skill and not endless spamming.

IcyDeadPeople · July 2016

There is something about the PVP combat system in this game that keeps me coming back and somehow I never get bored of it.

This is the only part of the game that I really enjoy. All the other stuff in the game I do only in order to become more competitive in PVP.

I suppose adding the monster helm vendor has motivated me to play a bit more than I had been. Now I try to play at least enough to buy 2 or 3 monster helms each weekend with AP.

Also, after subscribing I finally got access to the Imperial City, which is pretty fun and a lag free spot to go during primetime.

PurifedBladez · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

So far other option is to find a dueling guild or something till arenas and or battlegrounds are added and seeing ZoS track record might be awhile before they are added.

There no real satisfaction in the pvp fight mechanics. Even if they add a dueling element it's polishing up junk.

So basically what you are saying here is you are dissatisfied in PvP in general, be it 1v1, 1vX, or XvX?

I like the xvx bcz then adding different or infrequently used skills really makes a difference but the way the 1v1 fight mechanics are really terrible.

I'm sure small-scale PvP will have some mechanics to prevent endless duels.

I like the fantasy element and having skills but it's just a button mashing spamfest. I was hoping for stuff like body position, timing, tactics, speed, power and accuracy to come more into play.

I think all of these things come into play.. lol.

Edit - Yeah the definitely do.

Accuracy, power? How so?

Power.. that's obvious right? Lol. Also what? Lol

Accuracy also obvious? Lol. You can just be looking at the ground spamming a spamable.

And if you think your just gonna spam one ability the whole time your probably gonna get smacked.

You really feel like you have to aim ranged attacks? Yah there are a few. But most the time people spam those by starring straight down. No the aiming is a joke. Can you control the power you want to deliver your attacks? Yeah light attacks and heavy but not much after that.

If you think that there is much skill involved in this game then I truly feel sorry for you. Just run around cyrodil. Usually it's a group of CP 501s spamming a resource tower. Yeah it's truly pathetic.
#skill

If you don't think there is much skill involved let me eat you alive in a 1v1.

PurifedBladez · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

The entire premise of this game is all about out numbering. More champion points. More guys. Better armor. Etc. There is no skill. Oh and don't get me started on the bombard assault spam. So yeah I would like to know if there are any good fantasy games that require actual hand eye skill and not endless spamming.

Nope. I beat 501 cp all the time and I have 465 cp. Before DB I had like 350 and still was beating people with max champ points.

I wear purple armor. Nothing crazy about that.

I play solo or in small groups 4 or less. And beating groups that way outnumber you is always a good time.

It's just to bad that you couldn't figure it out. Sorry bud.

Not saying getting zerg'd down doesn't suck.

Btw.. when did I ever say ranged attacks?

Drdeath20 · July 2016

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

The entire premise of this game is all about out numbering. More champion points. More guys. Better armor. Etc. There is no skill. Oh and don't get me started on the bombard assault spam. So yeah I would like to know if there are any good fantasy games that require actual hand eye skill and not endless spamming.

Nope. I beat 501 cp all the time and I have 465 cp. Before DB I had like 350 and still was beating people with max champ points.

I wear purple armor. Nothing crazy about that.

I play solo or in small groups 4 or less. And beating groups that way outnumber you is always a good time.

It's just to bad that you couldn't figure it out. Sorry bud.

Not saying getting zerg'd down doesn't suck.

Btw.. when did I ever say ranged attacks?

Let me guess. Nightblade? Am I right?

Ranged attacks was meant for the guy saying people don't spam 1 skill endlessly. It's not about dying in open world and yes I have beaten and lost to people higher and lower than me but really that's not what cyrodil is. I wish it was. Go play cyrodil for an hour and tell me how many fun battles you get into. Most of the time it's 20+people tower spamming until they feel that they have enough numbers and then they seige. If the seige is unsuccessful back to the tower. Someone puts up a tent on top and presto back to tower spamming.

PurifedBladez · July 2016

Drdeath20 wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

The entire premise of this game is all about out numbering. More champion points. More guys. Better armor. Etc. There is no skill. Oh and don't get me started on the bombard assault spam. So yeah I would like to know if there are any good fantasy games that require actual hand eye skill and not endless spamming.

Nope. I beat 501 cp all the time and I have 465 cp. Before DB I had like 350 and still was beating people with max champ points.

I wear purple armor. Nothing crazy about that.

I play solo or in small groups 4 or less. And beating groups that way outnumber you is always a good time.

It's just to bad that you couldn't figure it out. Sorry bud.

Not saying getting zerg'd down doesn't suck.

Btw.. when did I ever say ranged attacks?

Let me guess. Nightblade? Am I right?

Ranged attacks was meant for the guy saying people don't spam 1 skill endlessly. It's not about dying in open world and yes I have beaten and lost to people higher and lower than me but really that's not what cyrodil is. I wish it was. Go play cyrodil for an hour and tell me how many fun battles you get into. Most of the time it's 20+people tower spamming until they feel that they have enough numbers and then they seige. If the seige is unsuccessful back to the tower. Someone puts up a tent on top and presto back to tower spamming.

I have a few characters but yeah my main is a nightblade.. created at launch with no prior knowledge of how any of the classes would end up. No shame here.. he'd still be my favorite if they nerfed him into the ground tomorrow.

Yeah that happens.. you know what I do? Leave. How could you be playing for so long and, haven't wised up to this yet?

I get in cool fights all the time in between keeps, or at choke points around keeps.

Drdeath20 · July 2016

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

The entire premise of this game is all about out numbering. More champion points. More guys. Better armor. Etc. There is no skill. Oh and don't get me started on the bombard assault spam. So yeah I would like to know if there are any good fantasy games that require actual hand eye skill and not endless spamming.

Nope. I beat 501 cp all the time and I have 465 cp. Before DB I had like 350 and still was beating people with max champ points.

I wear purple armor. Nothing crazy about that.

I play solo or in small groups 4 or less. And beating groups that way outnumber you is always a good time.

It's just to bad that you couldn't figure it out. Sorry bud.

Not saying getting zerg'd down doesn't suck.

Btw.. when did I ever say ranged attacks?

Let me guess. Nightblade? Am I right?

Ranged attacks was meant for the guy saying people don't spam 1 skill endlessly. It's not about dying in open world and yes I have beaten and lost to people higher and lower than me but really that's not what cyrodil is. I wish it was. Go play cyrodil for an hour and tell me how many fun battles you get into. Most of the time it's 20+people tower spamming until they feel that they have enough numbers and then they seige. If the seige is unsuccessful back to the tower. Someone puts up a tent on top and presto back to tower spamming.

I have a few characters but yeah my main is a nightblade.. created at launch with no prior knowledge of how any of the classes would end up. No shame here.. he'd still be my favorite if they nerfed him into the ground tomorrow.

Yeah that happens.. you know what I do? Leave. How could you be playing for so long and, haven't wised up to this yet?

I get in cool fights all the time in between keeps, or at choke points around keeps.

I am looking for some other game to spend my time and money on. Was turning to the community to see what else is out there. For about a year I got tons of enjoyment out of this game but now that's all I see.

CherryCake · July 2016

notimetocare wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

I literally watched a sap tank nightblade sink into the wall in a resource tower and sap essence from there. Eso is not for hardcore gamers.

No game is for hardcore players.

Leandor · July 2016

It appears OP is looking for a hand-to-hand combat ego "shooter". Or maybe a mortal kombat style duel game.

In any case, ESO is not the game type you're looking for *RPG style impersonation of a science fiction block buster character handwave*