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ESO - Worst performance award 2016?

  • Milvan
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    I love how ppl love the 100FPS thing when the human eye can only distinguish 25-30 FPS.

    You trolling right? We don't see "frames", we see a continuous flow of light\information.
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  • Vulsahdaal
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    Built a new computer today, with an i5 6600k, 16 GB ram, the ZOTAC 1070GTX Amp beast GPU.

    I get frame drops in ESO down to about 30 fps in cities.

    This is just slightly better than my GTX960M gaming laptop, which drops to about 25 fps.

    Are you kidding me?

    A 5 times better video card give me 5-10 higher fps in ESO.

    I knew this game was eating CPU (at least 1 core.....) but this is just ridicolous.

    In almost any other game I get a performance increase of about 100 fps.


    As others have mentioned, it could be a CPU issue? I built my new computer about a week ago, using the MSI 1070GTX and 16GB ram also, but I run my os and game on ssd and I have i7- 6700k cpu and am not experiencing any serious frame drops, not even at crowded dolmens or a wild weekend night in Rawl'ka.
    The GPU is fine, Id start looking at some other things to see what the issue could be..
  • LEGENDARYYY
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    Vulsahdaal wrote: »
    Built a new computer today, with an i5 6600k, 16 GB ram, the ZOTAC 1070GTX Amp beast GPU.

    I get frame drops in ESO down to about 30 fps in cities.

    This is just slightly better than my GTX960M gaming laptop, which drops to about 25 fps.

    Are you kidding me?

    A 5 times better video card give me 5-10 higher fps in ESO.

    I knew this game was eating CPU (at least 1 core.....) but this is just ridicolous.

    In almost any other game I get a performance increase of about 100 fps.


    As others have mentioned, it could be a CPU issue? I built my new computer about a week ago, using the MSI 1070GTX and 16GB ram also, but I run my os and game on ssd and I have i7- 6700k cpu and am not experiencing any serious frame drops, not even at crowded dolmens or a wild weekend night in Rawl'ka.
    The GPU is fine, Id start looking at some other things to see what the issue could be..

    I have multiple ssds aswell.

    Log in to a character in the EP alliance, turn everything on Ultra-high, and go to mournhold wayshrine in prime time. Take a screenshot of ur FPS.

    People with extreme i7s and 2x GTX980Ti in SLI get the same performance issues as me, even 20 fps in trials so, what makes u so special?

    Give proof.
    Edited by LEGENDARYYY on July 22, 2016 10:22AM
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  • LEGENDARYYY
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Bonzodog01 wrote: »
    So, you built a great new computer, put tons of thought into the RAM and GPU, but didn't stop to think that the GPU NEEDS the CPU to even begin processing half the info? That i5 is very under-powered and wimpy. Should have gone for an i7 at the very least. You bottle-necked your own system.

    Stop talking about things you obviously know nothing about.

    All I can say is, go google benchmarks, get enlightened.

    IF thats to hard for you, I can give you the answer. Theres AT MOST 5 fps difference in gaming performance between the i5 6600K and the i7 6700K. In ESO, probably 0.

    EDIT: Just noticed ur on XBOX, that pretty much explains things.

    Just looked up the Benchmark. My prebuilt Cyberpower has an AMD FX-8350 and even that's got a better performance mark than the i5, and everyone loves to remind others how utter crap AMD processors are. I can understand if you were going for what you wanted to afford, so did I, got my Comp on sale. But if you wanted utter performance the common theme is always go for an i7 if you can.

    But disregarding all that I do still agree with you, this game has a ton of optimization hookups. I know I keep using this same game as a comparison all the time but it's the only other MMO I've played a ton of, but Planetside 2 runs insanely well compared to ESO. And that game runs thousands of players on megaservers, all playing in the same instance.

    Maybe ZOS should call Daybreak and ask what their secret is.

    Theres a huge difference between tests that use all cores/threads and gaming performance.

    Most games today still struggle utilizing more than 1 or 2 cores.

    the i5 6600k has a better single core performance than the FX-8350, ergo its better in games nowadays. Also, intel has always *** over AMD in regards to the cache functions of the CPU, resulting in an overall better performance for the same buck. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-AMD-FX-8350

    an overclocked i5 6600K can even perform almost equal i7 6700k in terms of fps stability in games.

    EVEN, in cases where ppl put on only settings to stress the CPU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I

    I have no idea where u get ur numbers from. Your FX-8350 isnt bad, but its priced the same as i5 6600k, and is worse in todays games.

    The i5 6600K OC isnt much of a bottleneck at 1080p gaming, if at all. And on high resolutions, not at all.

    How old is BF3 now? Six plus cores. Every game I play uses more than ESO.

    so then, give me 1 game that utilizes more cores/threads than the of an i5 in such a way that you gain more than 8% better average fps on the i7.

    8% is nothing compared to price of the i7 which is currently 30% more expensive.

    8% of 60 fps is 60 x1.08 = 64.8 fps

    Would you pay 30% more for 5 ish more fps? Cool, go ahead.
    Edited by LEGENDARYYY on July 22, 2016 10:48AM
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  • Drungly
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    With an i7-6700K and MSI 1080 8G I get around 50-60 fps in Stormhaven.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Bonzodog01 wrote: »
    So, you built a great new computer, put tons of thought into the RAM and GPU, but didn't stop to think that the GPU NEEDS the CPU to even begin processing half the info? That i5 is very under-powered and wimpy. Should have gone for an i7 at the very least. You bottle-necked your own system.

    Stop talking about things you obviously know nothing about.

    All I can say is, go google benchmarks, get enlightened.

    IF thats to hard for you, I can give you the answer. Theres AT MOST 5 fps difference in gaming performance between the i5 6600K and the i7 6700K. In ESO, probably 0.

    EDIT: Just noticed ur on XBOX, that pretty much explains things.

    funny that.

    my rig is i7 6700k with a 980ti and in heavily populated areas frame rate seldom drops below 50
  • LEGENDARYYY
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    Drungly wrote: »
    With an i7-6700K and MSI 1080 8G I get around 50-60 fps in Stormhaven.

    even that is really bad with those specs!

    also, I think trials, PVP and mournhold wayshrine in prime time is much worse. You are probably looking at drops lower than 40 fps in those places, have u tested it?

    It's a disaster

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  • Drungly
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    Drungly wrote: »
    With an i7-6700K and MSI 1080 8G I get around 50-60 fps in Stormhaven.

    even that is really bad with those specs!

    also, I think trials, PVP and mournhold wayshrine in prime time is much worse. You are probably looking at drops lower than 40 fps in those places, have u tested it?

    It's a disaster

    This game isn't exactly the newest and it isn't heavily optimized either. You can throw as many resources at it as you want, but if the game doesn't use those resources properly you don't get much of an increase in FPS.
  • LEGENDARYYY
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    Drungly wrote: »
    Drungly wrote: »
    With an i7-6700K and MSI 1080 8G I get around 50-60 fps in Stormhaven.

    even that is really bad with those specs!

    also, I think trials, PVP and mournhold wayshrine in prime time is much worse. You are probably looking at drops lower than 40 fps in those places, have u tested it?

    It's a disaster

    This game isn't exactly the newest and it isn't heavily optimized either. You can throw as many resources at it as you want, but if the game doesn't use those resources properly you don't get much of an increase in FPS.

    exactly, and thats why it has to be shed some light on. This is one of the worst games in terms of performance out there. I think it's sad, cus I love the game and I want it to run smooth.
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  • LEGENDARYYY
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    Bonzodog01 wrote: »
    So, you built a great new computer, put tons of thought into the RAM and GPU, but didn't stop to think that the GPU NEEDS the CPU to even begin processing half the info? That i5 is very under-powered and wimpy. Should have gone for an i7 at the very least. You bottle-necked your own system.

    Stop talking about things you obviously know nothing about.

    All I can say is, go google benchmarks, get enlightened.

    IF thats to hard for you, I can give you the answer. Theres AT MOST 5 fps difference in gaming performance between the i5 6600K and the i7 6700K. In ESO, probably 0.

    EDIT: Just noticed ur on XBOX, that pretty much explains things.

    funny that.

    my rig is i7 6700k with a 980ti and in heavily populated areas frame rate seldom drops below 50

    same as me then, outside of prime time in mournhold I have 50-70 fps.

    Prime time, if theres about 50 ppl, and some are using spells etc near wayshrine it drops to 30-40.

    Anything below 70 fps is bad though, so I'm not sure why ur happy about having a lousy 50 fps on that rig either.
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    EP - Nord - Eyjolf Blodsbringar - Stamina NB PvPer
    EP - Argonian - Tired-Of-Cats - Magicka Sorc PvPer
    EP - Khajit - Cutepaws - Banker
    EP - Redguard - Jathod Trearan - Stamina DK DD
    EP - Redgaurd - Dhenus Okzhat-Si - Stamina Sorcerer DD (vMSA toon, 569K)
    EP - Altmer - Haqsin - Magicka Sorc DD
    EP - Altmer - Minia Feaine - Templar Healer

    + about 20 deleted alts

    GM of Pact Veteran Trade (Craglorn), Traders of the Ebonheart (Mournhold), Pact Veteran Trade II (Mournhold)

    All part of the "Akatosh Imperium".

    Want competitive Cyrodiil? Support THIS thread.

    Me soloing Veteran Elden Hollow and AA: HERE
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