Minnesinger wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

One last thing, the most amusing part in this all. After DR left the map Tuesday night, Ep hasnt been able to hold anything at all until several members of the DC faction rolled onto EP toons and took back half of the map themselves at about 9pm last night.

Its been like this all week. (Not to be arrogant, but really its been like this for about six months, whenever we arent around DC takes over everything, because EP for the most part genuinely sucks on Had and relies on a couple organized guilds like us and m4d to do literally everything for them, hold their hands, the works. With m4d not running as much and DR off the field, this was going to happen no matter what)

Luckily, I don´t know crap about the faction politics but the downhill haderus has gone is concrete. I have been playing Azuras Star every now and then and it has good action. Probably, I will play there as soon as I can home it.

antihero727 wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

I was in Hadrus last night and how does EP and DC think ganging up on AD will make it a balanced server? DC had emp keeps, emp, and all scrolls. AD had tri keeps EP had gate keeps but somehow thought fare was a good idea while we were trying to take roe with 16 vs a 30+ DC group? If this map stays this way with purple alliance the only remaining AD guilds will move very soon and you will only have each other to fight.

I don't know what EP was thinking, but I think DC was just bored. DC outnumbered EP by quite a bit, too, last night. The whole freakin' map is blue today. Well, that's a sure cure for boredom. /s

It's very sad but the main 2 guilds on Hadrus for AD are leaving. Congrats to the strong purple alliance for pushing the last AD off of a campaign we have been on for almost a year now. It's hard enough fighting a sizable DC horde but to fight back 2 factions every time we feild a 12 person group is getting old. I don't know if you broke our spirits but as I said in an earlier post the Fare 16 EP sieges while DC had everything else showed us that balance and fun fights are not what the other factions on Hadrus want. Have fun playing with yourselves for a few cycles.

forzajuve212 wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

I was in Hadrus last night and how does EP and DC think ganging up on AD will make it a balanced server? DC had emp keeps, emp, and all scrolls. AD had tri keeps EP had gate keeps but somehow thought fare was a good idea while we were trying to take roe with 16 vs a 30+ DC group? If this map stays this way with purple alliance the only remaining AD guilds will move very soon and you will only have each other to fight.

I don't know what EP was thinking, but I think DC was just bored. DC outnumbered EP by quite a bit, too, last night. The whole freakin' map is blue today. Well, that's a sure cure for boredom. /s

It's very sad but the main 2 guilds on Hadrus for AD are leaving. Congrats to the strong purple alliance for pushing the last AD off of a campaign we have been on for almost a year now. It's hard enough fighting a sizable DC horde but to fight back 2 factions every time we feild a 12 person group is getting old. I don't know if you broke our spirits but as I said in an earlier post the Fare 16 EP sieges while DC had everything else showed us that balance and fun fights are not what the other factions on Hadrus want. Have fun playing with yourselves for a few cycles.

Who are the last AD guilds left on Haderus? Arcane hasn't been there since April, same with Fantasia.

Kinda funny how things played out, we were all asked to leave to stop "ruining the small scale"" and then the moment all the good AD guilds leave DC zergs the crap out of everything unchecked and now you got people on all sides asking for AD back. Lol k.

Rylana wrote: »

Hell even DC flipped red to fight themselves yesterday because EP couldnt muster any sort of defense.

Vangy wrote: »

This is never going to work...... Pugs follow main guilds. Its beyond the control of any guild. AC moved and Fatansia moved out of HAD and look what happened. 10000000 zerglings followed us to TF.

Anazasi wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

I was in Hadrus last night and how does EP and DC think ganging up on AD will make it a balanced server? DC had emp keeps, emp, and all scrolls. AD had tri keeps EP had gate keeps but somehow thought fare was a good idea while we were trying to take roe with 16 vs a 30+ DC group? If this map stays this way with purple alliance the only remaining AD guilds will move very soon and you will only have each other to fight.

I don't know what EP was thinking, but I think DC was just bored. DC outnumbered EP by quite a bit, too, last night. The whole freakin' map is blue today. Well, that's a sure cure for boredom. /s

It's very sad but the main 2 guilds on Hadrus for AD are leaving. Congrats to the strong purple alliance for pushing the last AD off of a campaign we have been on for almost a year now. It's hard enough fighting a sizable DC horde but to fight back 2 factions every time we feild a 12 person group is getting old. I don't know if you broke our spirits but as I said in an earlier post the Fare 16 EP sieges while DC had everything else showed us that balance and fun fights are not what the other factions on Hadrus want. Have fun playing with yourselves for a few cycles.

Welcome to TF Allow the DC and EP training grounds to be unsoiled by AD.

Maztiax wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

This is never going to work...... Pugs follow main guilds. Its beyond the control of any guild. AC moved and Fatansia moved out of HAD and look what happened. 10000000 zerglings followed us to TF.

The same happens with ED and DC toons. Zerglings will just hop onto any campaign where their faction is dominating and that faction will dominate some more.

No amount of wah wah will ever fix this. Im at a loss for how to balance campaigns without hard locks on population limit which wont sit well with the crowd.

Explains DC and why they are zerglings now.

WTF are you talking about, DC never zergs. Those are all solo 1vX players following a common objective, unlike all the EP/AD baddies who ball into a group and follow directions from some dude on ts. Get your facts straight kiddo. DC always fights fair, never zergs, and always wins through skill and ingenuity.

Anazasi wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Maztiax wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

This is never going to work...... Pugs follow main guilds. Its beyond the control of any guild. AC moved and Fatansia moved out of HAD and look what happened. 10000000 zerglings followed us to TF.

The same happens with ED and DC toons. Zerglings will just hop onto any campaign where their faction is dominating and that faction will dominate some more.

No amount of wah wah will ever fix this. Im at a loss for how to balance campaigns without hard locks on population limit which wont sit well with the crowd.

Explains DC and why they are zerglings now.

WTF are you talking about, DC never zergs. Those are all solo 1vX players following a common objective, unlike all the EP/AD baddies who ball into a group and follow directions from some dude on ts. Get your facts straight kiddo. DC always fights fair, never zergs, and always wins through skill and ingenuity.

This is correct ^

perhaps it would be different if the great DC leaders weren't reforming addicts or had enough brain cells left to actually lead. No disrespect to the DC leaders who are doing their part to bring some form of order to the chaos the exists.

a mindless mass of players in a MMO is nothing more than a MOB and only possess what many scholars have identified as a MOB mentality, and yes, they, for a very brief moment share a common goal. But, as soon as that goal is reached the mob dissipates without leadership. If you are unaware of this you can see it build, burn, and die, over and over again in the game. You can find and identify the groups that are not based on MOB tactics, just as easy.

Human nature is a marvelous thing and without exception, we are all bound to it regardless of what you may believe.

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Maztiax wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

This is never going to work...... Pugs follow main guilds. Its beyond the control of any guild. AC moved and Fatansia moved out of HAD and look what happened. 10000000 zerglings followed us to TF.

The same happens with ED and DC toons. Zerglings will just hop onto any campaign where their faction is dominating and that faction will dominate some more.

No amount of wah wah will ever fix this. Im at a loss for how to balance campaigns without hard locks on population limit which wont sit well with the crowd.

Explains DC and why they are zerglings now.

WTF are you talking about, DC never zergs. Those are all solo 1vX players following a common objective, unlike all the EP/AD baddies who ball into a group and follow directions from some dude on ts. Get your facts straight kiddo. DC always fights fair, never zergs, and always wins through skill and ingenuity.

This is correct ^

perhaps it would be different if the great DC leaders weren't reforming addicts or had enough brain cells left to actually lead. No disrespect to the DC leaders who are doing their part to bring some form of order to the chaos the exists.

a mindless mass of players in a MMO is nothing more than a MOB and only possess what many scholars have identified as a MOB mentality, and yes, they, for a very brief moment share a common goal. But, as soon as that goal is reached the mob dissipates without leadership. If you are unaware of this you can see it build, burn, and die, over and over again in the game. You can find and identify the groups that are not based on MOB tactics, just as easy.

Human nature is a marvelous thing and without exception, we are all bound to it regardless of what you may believe.

You just have to be as determined to win as DC was when it was endless hordes of AD on Haderus . They went a long time with low pop fighting AD pop locked for months . They just never gave up . You have to have the same drive to win . Yes , you will get beaten just like DC did when it was a AD buff server but eventually the hard work pays off .

I'm not just preaching either , I was there helping . Now that it's DC , I'm making my first AD toon to take up the challenge again and fight EP and DC there . I know it's going to suck too but I can do it . I love fighting the best and DC is the best there .

Telel wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Maztiax wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

This is never going to work...... Pugs follow main guilds. Its beyond the control of any guild. AC moved and Fatansia moved out of HAD and look what happened. 10000000 zerglings followed us to TF.

The same happens with ED and DC toons. Zerglings will just hop onto any campaign where their faction is dominating and that faction will dominate some more.

No amount of wah wah will ever fix this. Im at a loss for how to balance campaigns without hard locks on population limit which wont sit well with the crowd.

Explains DC and why they are zerglings now.

WTF are you talking about, DC never zergs. Those are all solo 1vX players following a common objective, unlike all the EP/AD baddies who ball into a group and follow directions from some dude on ts. Get your facts straight kiddo. DC always fights fair, never zergs, and always wins through skill and ingenuity.

This is correct ^

perhaps it would be different if the great DC leaders weren't reforming addicts or had enough brain cells left to actually lead. No disrespect to the DC leaders who are doing their part to bring some form of order to the chaos the exists.

a mindless mass of players in a MMO is nothing more than a MOB and only possess what many scholars have identified as a MOB mentality, and yes, they, for a very brief moment share a common goal. But, as soon as that goal is reached the mob dissipates without leadership. If you are unaware of this you can see it build, burn, and die, over and over again in the game. You can find and identify the groups that are not based on MOB tactics, just as easy.

Human nature is a marvelous thing and without exception, we are all bound to it regardless of what you may believe.

You just have to be as determined to win as DC was when it was endless hordes of AD on Haderus . They went a long time with low pop fighting AD pop locked for months . They just never gave up . You have to have the same drive to win . Yes , you will get beaten just like DC did when it was a AD buff server but eventually the hard work pays off .

I'm not just preaching either , I was there helping . Now that it's DC , I'm making my first AD toon to take up the challenge again and fight EP and DC there . I know it's going to suck too but I can do it . I love fighting the best and DC is the best there .

Actually they did give up quite often.

Telel spent more than a few nights on a bloop alt attempting to help them. SAdly khajiit often ended up being the lone defender of many a home keep as all the people who claimed to be trying would turn and flee into the sewers as soon as Ash was retaken.

Needless to say having people run away the moment they could go earn fossilized candy bars in a place full of stinky ick was not exactly conductive to this one's desire to help.

KenaPKK wrote: »

Part of me wants to say we need new teaching guilds led by competent players to start organizing and educating people. Part of me really is going to do just this very thing as soon as possible otherwise no one will.

Hmmmm. I shall begin doing what has already driven Telel to the point where the poor khajiit wakes up at night screaming 'no I said left, LEFFTTTTTT'.