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I'm too afraid to do dungeons

  • Papa_Hunt
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    I laugh at myself because I am hesitant to do dailies...and haven't done many. Why do I laugh? Because I'm actually a long time (beta) player but I focus all my time in PvP. So I'm experienced, just not on the PvE side. I suck and have no idea what I'm doing. =)

    With that said, if anyone is patient enough and kind enough to let me tag along on Silver and Gold dailies, message me! I play starting around 8pm eastern on weeknights.
  • Crom_CCCXVI
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    Run them on normal first.......

    Just go over to Craghorn practice fighting and surviving against the mobs over there,... give you a decent idea what to expect.

    If your still scared, make a tanky healer.. every group will want you, and you can get a feel for it.
  • Hawco10
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    I tried that sanctum one the other week. I pho almost exclusively so have never done any dungeons as such, apart form looking for skywards or the main story quests.
    I'll never go into another dungeon after that experience, it was awful. I've been in high pressure scenarios a lot in Cyrodil. I get it, that everyone has to do their job etc, but the sanctum was way worse. Never felt more unwelcome in my life. I said upfront that I have no experience and that I can add dos and follow the orders. However, I ended up getting kikcked for zip, basically just before the last boss was killed,my they kicked me for no reason than the fact that they could. I was told to do this or that and I asked where this or that was. And then kicked.
    Never again, just not worth the trouble tbh.
    Even my new guild mates were trying to talk me into one. But that first experience has put me off for good.
    I would never treat anyone new to Cryodil like that, I often help out new people, give them advice and basically have them tag along in a group with me till they get more cmfortable.
    Anyway, just my 2 cents on dungeons.
  • NeillMcAttack
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    It's hard to say wether or not your fears are warranted. There are groups that will blame anyone but themselves and players that will quit on one wipe leaving the whole team scratching thier heads, and lacking a tank/healer or whatever. You also get people that are AFK. Tanks in light armor holding a bow. All sorts really, but luckily, once you have learned, levelled up, and dominated all the dungeons in the game the these hindrances become nothing more than amusing tales and minor inconveniences to tell guildies.

    The most guaranteed way to enjoy and learn the dungeons in the game is to simply join a guild and communicate. Although I pug to pick up skill points and undaunted levels on my alts. It doesn't dishearten me because I have already gained the necessary experience from grouping and communicating with guildies and so can pick up a lot of the slack left over from random inexperienced players.
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  • daemonios
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    Hawco10 wrote: »
    I tried that sanctum one the other week. I pho almost exclusively so have never done any dungeons as such, apart form looking for skywards or the main story quests.
    I'll never go into another dungeon after that experience, it was awful. I've been in high pressure scenarios a lot in Cyrodil. I get it, that everyone has to do their job etc, but the sanctum was way worse. Never felt more unwelcome in my life. I said upfront that I have no experience and that I can add dos and follow the orders. However, I ended up getting kikcked for zip, basically just before the last boss was killed,my they kicked me for no reason than the fact that they could. I was told to do this or that and I asked where this or that was. And then kicked.
    Never again, just not worth the trouble tbh.
    Even my new guild mates were trying to talk me into one. But that first experience has put me off for good.
    I would never treat anyone new to Cryodil like that, I often help out new people, give them advice and basically have them tag along in a group with me till they get more cmfortable.
    Anyway, just my 2 cents on dungeons.

    I'm sorry you had that experience, especially since you were honest upfront about your lack of experience. That doesn't help create a welcoming community for sure.

    That said, you seem to be lacking a lot of information that might help you. Firstly, Sanctum is not a dungeon, but a trial. These are 12-man group instances that are quite a bit harder than normal or even veteran dungeons, especially if you don't know the particular mechanics for certain bosses or trash pulls.

    Secondly, when you say you've been to a few dungeons to look for skyshards or do main story quests, I'm thinking you have never been to a group dungeon at all, since what you describe is only found in delves (small dungeons that are designed to be soloed). Dungeons are the ones that are designed for 4-man groups, and there is only 1 per zone. Delves basically have the same enemies as the outside world, whereas dungeons have enemies and bosses that are stronger and hit much harder, along with plenty of mechanics that will get you killed if you don't follow them.

    I would suggest if you want to have a go at hard PvE content - veteran dungeons and trials - you should join a friendly, progression-oriented guild and form your groups there rather than make them out of random players. Random groups *can* work, but too often they lead to experiences such as the one you described.
  • daemonios
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    If your still scared, make a tanky healer.. every group will want you, and you can get a feel for it.

    I don't really know what you mean by "tanky healer", but I can assure you in end-game PvE most groups want a healer that can heal AND buff AND add some dps. Tanking is not very high on the priority list of healers :) Sure you can tank and heal at the same time so that the group can have 3 DDs and rush through the dungeon, but that really only works for the old veteran dungeons. In vWGT and vICP it's easier to find healerless groups (thanks to Vigor and Sap Sap Sap) than tankless ones.
  • RedneckProphet
    Vet 501 and haven't done a single group dungeon or PVP yet. The appeal of Elder scrolls has always been in its' single player storyline and I just don't feel like dealing with all the foul mouths and know-it-alls. Very rare I group with a player and find people that are genuine and humble. And so I don't try to.
  • daemonios
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    Vet 501 and haven't done a single group dungeon or PVP yet. The appeal of Elder scrolls has always been in its' single player storyline and I just don't feel like dealing with all the foul mouths and know-it-alls. Very rare I group with a player and find people that are genuine and humble. And so I don't try to.

    You're making a sweeping statement about an entire community, yet somehow the problem is 100% other people? :) Think about it. How about you start adding the few people you did enjoy playing with to a buddy list, and then asking them to have at it in group dungeons?

    Seriously, yes there are obnoxious people in this game, as in any multiplayer game. But to refuse to even attempt group content based on this kind of overbroad characterisation isn't much better.
  • Sausage
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    Luckily we get Chat soon, so we get decent Guilds I think.
  • rhapsodious
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    daemonios wrote: »
    If your still scared, make a tanky healer.. every group will want you, and you can get a feel for it.

    I don't really know what you mean by "tanky healer", but I can assure you in end-game PvE most groups want a healer that can heal AND buff AND add some dps. Tanking is not very high on the priority list of healers :) Sure you can tank and heal at the same time so that the group can have 3 DDs and rush through the dungeon, but that really only works for the old veteran dungeons. In vWGT and vICP it's easier to find healerless groups (thanks to Vigor and Sap Sap Sap) than tankless ones.

    I have a friend who healtanks on both his sorc and templar. The templar is more efficient at it, but he can do ICP and WGT. Helps that he's done no-death for both of the dungeons, though, so suffice it to say he knows them in and out.

    But you are right, ideally the group shouldn't be relying on the healer and they will be able to do some DPS barring fights that just involve a lot of stuff being thrown at you.

    That being said. If there was more variety, dungeons would be my favorite part of the game; I'm really glad we're getting two more. I run them with friends or guildies and it's a really fun experience. If you *** up, oh well. It happens. I overshot the windy bridge leading to the conduits in vCOA yesterday, but didn't hit ground (yay, swimming in lava.. Dunmer OP next update) so I had to walk/swim-of-shame back up to Skoria. But it was more funny than anything.

    If you have friends or guildies you can trust, I definitely recommend running some dungeons! They all have a story, some better than others, and there's a bunch of achievements you can get. It's definitely scary starting out, though. I remember getting yelled at as a level 30-something because I didn't really know what I was doing with my build. ...At level 30. I had like, just finished Shadowfen.

    I cried. It was that bad. >_<

    But now dungeons are what I look forward to every day when my friends are on! If you have friends or nice guildies, please give them a chance. I'd love to run with you but you're kind of on the other side of the world, and the wrong platform to boot. Gah.
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    I hear so many "horror stories" about people being kicked, nasty players etc. Plus I don't know how well I'd do in any dungeon. I think I'm probably comparatively bad. But I'm missing out :(

    Here my yesterdays example of elitist behaviour:
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    Random normal dungeon queue found a group - I was CP400+ (Terach), the other 2 players ~CP200+, and one was lvl36.
    Before I managed to enter dungeon, I saw the "lvl36" player on the Group list of names, but once I entered area I realised he was kicked by leader. Then after new queue was found a new player but also around lvl~40, and also he was voted by leader for kick. I refused and asked for reason and response was "low level".

    We end up in this group with pretty nice fights without problems, so I personally don't understand why such players behave in that harsh way.

    I also felt some contempt from leader, in calling the non-CP player "low level" instead of naming him/her, or to "keep up" later. This random was made in quietness and cold atmosphere and tbh I put the leader to my black list, because I also have 2 alts non-CP yet and would not like to be kicked due to this.

    I hope ZOS will finally find good solution for the problem. Low level must not be a reason for kick from normal dungeon.
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  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    Cazzy did you ever get a group togeather? as I said before you can always contact me or red and we can get s group together to run a few.
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    Gargath wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I hear so many "horror stories" about people being kicked, nasty players etc. Plus I don't know how well I'd do in any dungeon. I think I'm probably comparatively bad. But I'm missing out :(

    Here my yesterdays example of elitist behaviour:
    2D59qfS.jpg

    Random normal dungeon queue found a group - I was CP400+ (Terach), the other 2 players ~CP200+, and one was lvl36.
    Before I managed to enter dungeon, I saw the "lvl36" player on the Group list of names, but once I entered area I realised he was kicked by leader. Then after new queue was found a new player but also around lvl~40, and also he was voted by leader for kick. I refused and asked for reason and response was "low level".

    We end up in this group with pretty nice fights without problems, so I personally don't understand why such players behave in that harsh way.

    I also felt some contempt from leader, in calling the non-CP player "low level" instead of naming him/her, or to "keep up" later. This random was made in quietness and cold atmosphere and tbh I put the leader to my black list, because I also have 2 alts non-CP yet and would not like to be kicked due to this.

    I hope ZOS will finally find good solution for the problem. Low level must not be a reason for kick from normal dungeon.

    @Gargath Perhaps have everyones level show as CP 160 in all menues if you use the group tool nomore no less.
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  • Gargath
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    Perhaps have everyones level show as CP 160 in all menues if you use the group tool nomore no less.
    I agree, if everyone are scaled to leader's lvl, there is no reason to show the real level of other players on Group tab. Simple solution for big problem.

    Edited by Gargath on July 20, 2016 3:58PM
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Gargath wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I hear so many "horror stories" about people being kicked, nasty players etc. Plus I don't know how well I'd do in any dungeon. I think I'm probably comparatively bad. But I'm missing out :(

    Here my yesterdays example of elitist behaviour:
    2D59qfS.jpg

    Random normal dungeon queue found a group - I was CP400+ (Terach), the other 2 players ~CP200+, and one was lvl36.
    Before I managed to enter dungeon, I saw the "lvl36" player on the Group list of names, but once I entered area I realised he was kicked by leader. Then after new queue was found a new player but also around lvl~40, and also he was voted by leader for kick. I refused and asked for reason and response was "low level".

    We end up in this group with pretty nice fights without problems, so I personally don't understand why such players behave in that harsh way.

    I also felt some contempt from leader, in calling the non-CP player "low level" instead of naming him/her, or to "keep up" later. This random was made in quietness and cold atmosphere and tbh I put the leader to my black list, because I also have 2 alts non-CP yet and would not like to be kicked due to this.

    I hope ZOS will finally find good solution for the problem. Low level must not be a reason for kick from normal dungeon.

    No-cp=pre-vet?
    Then the guy is just an idiot. I have 800+ cps, but if I'll make a new char, it will only show its level, even though all cp buffs are active.
    Once i was leveling undaunted on pre-vet char, with gf random dungeon tool (since that was a templar healer/dd, and even in the worst case scenario I could solo the dungeon). And saw a few "elitists" like this. Once we had a cp 300 guy who left when he saw a bunch of lvl 30-40s, but it turned out that all 3 of us were actually cp501+ and had insane stats with scaling and crafted gear.
    I dont think its Zos' issue though, its the players who just repeat some stupid stuff they've heard somewhere, just like parrots, and think that its a divine revelation. Like "one must have 400+ cps to do Wayrest sewers pledge" and such.
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  • Van_0S
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    Gargath wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I hear so many "horror stories" about people being kicked, nasty players etc. Plus I don't know how well I'd do in any dungeon. I think I'm probably comparatively bad. But I'm missing out :(

    Here my yesterdays example of elitist behaviour:
    2D59qfS.jpg

    Random normal dungeon queue found a group - I was CP400+ (Terach), the other 2 players ~CP200+, and one was lvl36.
    Before I managed to enter dungeon, I saw the "lvl36" player on the Group list of names, but once I entered area I realised he was kicked by leader. Then after new queue was found a new player but also around lvl~40, and also he was voted by leader for kick. I refused and asked for reason and response was "low level".

    We end up in this group with pretty nice fights without problems, so I personally don't understand why such players behave in that harsh way.

    I also felt some contempt from leader, in calling the non-CP player "low level" instead of naming him/her, or to "keep up" later. This random was made in quietness and cold atmosphere and tbh I put the leader to my black list, because I also have 2 alts non-CP yet and would not like to be kicked due to this.

    I hope ZOS will finally find good solution for the problem. Low level must not be a reason for kick from normal dungeon.

    Funny thing! For normal dungeons, me and my guild demand for Low lvl because the mobs will scale to that low lvl crown and we get to finish in less than 3 min. :D
  • FortheloveofKrist
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    came in here thinking it was a story about someone not being taught how to run, impaitence, etc results in them being booted.

    But after reading, and seeing the replies, its more than that I think. Its that you 'REFUSE' to learn (ASK FFS, JUST ASK if you do not know something) and are 'that guy' whos 'DPS' but only does light arrow attacks (And don't move, resulting in death, and ignores res's and waits for boss to die) or that tank who has 12k hp and thinks that because hes holding a shield mobs should just attack him without him doing a thing, or the healer that believes spamming sap essence is 'healing' (Yet hes off behind the boss)

    Truth is, of the others I've read here, i would be utterly shocked to really see you get 'booted' or refused a run (In all but the WGT/ICP dungeons, MAYBE COA vet)because ANY of them can be carried by ONE DECENT guy(Of any of the 3 roles) with 3 'noobs'

    so, sorry, your 'fears' are utterly unwarranted. U want to run a dungeon, and want to learn it, say so. At least then you can find a group BEFORE you get into a dungeon. LEarn about common sense things like food, potions, what 'mechanics' to watch for, etc.

    Its been proven many times already, that most ANY of the 'old' vet dungeons can be done with NOTHING ELSE than light attacks from the dps, and 1 button each for healers and tanks(the tank uses his taunt only, healer uses 1 heal only)

    So if 'that' can be done, I'm SURE your fine.

    (Again we are talking 'getting the job done, and learning it' not running it in world record breaking speed with no flaws)

    @AtmaDarkwolf

    Here's a couple books that might help you...

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  • AtmaDarkwolf
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    came in here thinking it was a story about someone not being taught how to run, impaitence, etc results in them being booted.

    But after reading, and seeing the replies, its more than that I think. Its that you 'REFUSE' to learn (ASK FFS, JUST ASK if you do not know something) and are 'that guy' whos 'DPS' but only does light arrow attacks (And don't move, resulting in death, and ignores res's and waits for boss to die) or that tank who has 12k hp and thinks that because hes holding a shield mobs should just attack him without him doing a thing, or the healer that believes spamming sap essence is 'healing' (Yet hes off behind the boss)

    Truth is, of the others I've read here, i would be utterly shocked to really see you get 'booted' or refused a run (In all but the WGT/ICP dungeons, MAYBE COA vet)because ANY of them can be carried by ONE DECENT guy(Of any of the 3 roles) with 3 'noobs'

    so, sorry, your 'fears' are utterly unwarranted. U want to run a dungeon, and want to learn it, say so. At least then you can find a group BEFORE you get into a dungeon. LEarn about common sense things like food, potions, what 'mechanics' to watch for, etc.

    Its been proven many times already, that most ANY of the 'old' vet dungeons can be done with NOTHING ELSE than light attacks from the dps, and 1 button each for healers and tanks(the tank uses his taunt only, healer uses 1 heal only)

    So if 'that' can be done, I'm SURE your fine.

    (Again we are talking 'getting the job done, and learning it' not running it in world record breaking speed with no flaws)

    @AtmaDarkwolf

    Here's a couple books that might help you...

    41nvsBf2bUL._SX318_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

    9781936976027_p0_v1_s192x300.jpg

    LOL oh please, go on and insult my grammar (Like it changes the point I was making- and sure, call me what ever you trolls and facebook idiots want on forums, I don't care. What I DO care about is being in game and knowing the difference between a 'noob' who I LOVE meeting and are ALWAYS willing to learn, adapt, and evolve(And able to use their own experiences to further the process of growing) and a n00b who will be just as I stated above, REFUSE to learn ANYTHING, expect to be carried though, faceplant at bosses and refuse reses, who stand in red spots or actually 'run' to the healer when targeted by aoes, etc.

    Trust me, in that situation, I'M not the jerk. And I am pretty dammed sure most of you know who the type are I'm talking about (IE, not necessarily the OP of this thread, who I think just had a bad string of experiences) but many of the other posters are sounding like the type that 'expect' the other 3 to haul their dead weight though vet runs just because they did the great favor of gracing us (the other 3) with their magnificent presence.

    Also, Forum hate is only another form of fame, and I am happy to accept it :D (Those who meet me in game can make their own judgments about me.)
  • AtmaDarkwolf
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    came in here thinking it was a story about someone not being taught how to run, impaitence, etc results in them being booted.

    But after reading, and seeing the replies, its more than that I think. Its that you 'REFUSE' to learn (ASK FFS, JUST ASK if you do not know something) and are 'that guy' whos 'DPS' but only does light arrow attacks (And don't move, resulting in death, and ignores res's and waits for boss to die) or that tank who has 12k hp and thinks that because hes holding a shield mobs should just attack him without him doing a thing, or the healer that believes spamming sap essence is 'healing' (Yet hes off behind the boss)

    Truth is, of the others I've read here, i would be utterly shocked to really see you get 'booted' or refused a run (In all but the WGT/ICP dungeons, MAYBE COA vet)because ANY of them can be carried by ONE DECENT guy(Of any of the 3 roles) with 3 'noobs'

    so, sorry, your 'fears' are utterly unwarranted. U want to run a dungeon, and want to learn it, say so. At least then you can find a group BEFORE you get into a dungeon. LEarn about common sense things like food, potions, what 'mechanics' to watch for, etc.

    Its been proven many times already, that most ANY of the 'old' vet dungeons can be done with NOTHING ELSE than light attacks from the dps, and 1 button each for healers and tanks(the tank uses his taunt only, healer uses 1 heal only)

    So if 'that' can be done, I'm SURE your fine.

    (Again we are talking 'getting the job done, and learning it' not running it in world record breaking speed with no flaws)

    @AtmaDarkwolf

    Here's a couple books that might help you...

    41nvsBf2bUL._SX318_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

    9781936976027_p0_v1_s192x300.jpg

    LOL oh please, go on and insult my grammar (Like it changes the point I was making- and sure, call me what ever you trolls and facebook idiots want on forums, I don't care. What I DO care about is being in game and knowing the difference between a 'newb' who I LOVE meeting and are ALWAYS willing to learn, adapt, and evolve(And able to use their own experiences to further the process of growing) and a n00b who will be just as I stated above, REFUSE to learn ANYTHING, expect to be carried though, faceplant at bosses and refuse reses, who stand in red spots or actually 'run' to the healer when targeted by aoes, etc.

    Trust me, in that situation, I'M not the jerk. And I am pretty dammed sure most of you know who the type are I'm talking about (IE, not necessarily the OP of this thread, who I think just had a bad string of experiences) but many of the other posters are sounding like the type that 'expect' the other 3 to haul their dead weight though vet runs just because they did the great favor of gracing us (the other 3) with their magnificent presence.

    Also, Forum hate is only another form of fame, and I am happy to accept it :D (Those who meet me in game can make their own judgments about me.)

  • Oh_Skrivva
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    I see where OP is coming from. I'm a long time player (well over Cp cap). Who has done all content except the dark brotherhood and some of thieves dlc. Reason for that is because I suffered a accident that put me in a cast the last 2 and a half months. Was able to get cast removed last week, still don't have full mobility in middle finger. (still a month or so more of an physical therapy needed). So I macro a side mouse button to use for my right clicks atm. So I'm feeling a little discouraged in doing end game content since I'm really rusty and my hand not being fully healed. So I've just logged on a few times to check things out. I'll get back to my normal grinding self eventually.
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  • Cazzy
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    Oh_Skrivva wrote: »
    I see where OP is coming from. I'm a long time player (well over Cp cap). Who has done all content except the dark brotherhood and some of thieves dlc. Reason for that is because I suffered a accident that put me in a cast the last 2 and a half months. Was able to get cast removed last week, still don't have full mobility in middle finger. (still a month or so more of an physical therapy needed). So I macro a side mouse button to use for my right clicks atm. So I'm feeling a little discouraged in doing end game content since I'm really rusty and my hand not being fully healed. So I've just logged on a few times to check things out. I'll get back to my normal grinding self eventually.

    I actually have a disability in my left arm which means I'm not very quick on the buttons either. I never thought about it but it might be one of the reasons I'm fearful. If I'm yelled at for being slow then it's not something I can control and just highlights (to me) a restriction I have. I still give it my all but I'm definitely holding myself back as far as that particular fear goes. If that makes sense!

    @AtmaDarkwolf I have only done the very first dungeon for the Undaunted and ran it 3 or 4 times. I usually carry the others but don't mind it. I feel I'm helping them experience it. My fears come from what others have experienced, disabilities I have that make me physically slower to react (but not so slow that I'm a sloth gamer - I do moderately well in PvP) - and just anxiety, shyness etc. There's loads of reasons but I'm definitely someone who gives it my all and tries to help as much as I'm able.

    ESO has been my first MMO and I have learnt a lot But min/maxing, builds, CP distribution...I was finding my groove. I enjoy how I play and think I'm where I want to be. So, I'll take the plunge and see how I do.

    Thank you everyone for the support and understanding. I think text chat will help those of us who prefer to communicate that way. I also think Guilds dedicated to introducing new players to dungeons is a fantastic idea.

    I know a few people have messaged me and I will get back to you soon!! :smiley:
    Edited by Cazzy on July 21, 2016 12:14AM
  • kewl
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    I've been pugging since launch and only had a handful of problems. The forums don't always reflect how helpful this community is. If anyone in this thread is looking for a friendly guild to PvP & PvE with, hit me up in game @Occanum.
  • BlanketFort
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    Schemering wrote: »
    Specifically ask in zones for a guild that recruits inexperienced players. Im in 2 guilds that will take new and inexperienced players and in one of those guilds its also a tradition to craft some good gear and food for new players and they get advise on what skills they could use if they want. Unfortunately youre on PS4 and NA so cant inv you on my server:(

    Do you happen to play on Xbox one EU? Because if so, I'd be very interested to group with fellow folks who may or may not know how dungeoneering works. I've been playing long enough but never had the guts to actually go and group up.
  • Knootewoot
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    I hear so many "horror stories" about people being kicked, nasty players etc. Plus I don't know how well I'd do in any dungeon. I think I'm probably comparatively bad. But I'm missing out :(

    It can go like this. I didn't do Veteran dungeons and trials because of this. But I have been running with my guild since last 2 months. And to my surprise I really like doing it. I used to be PvP only. But now I really enjoy PvE.

    Luckily not all people are nasty. Mostly I only run with guild members because they are all nice-guys.
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    The horror stories are the minority though some just get unlucky. Most very good players are not going to kick you, it's probably moderate players that are acting elitist.
  • Wolfpaw
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    I hear so many "horror stories" about people being kicked, nasty players etc. Plus I don't know how well I'd do in any dungeon. I think I'm probably comparatively bad. But I'm missing out :(

    Just don't be a jerk when you queue,

    2h weapon "tank", or a dps that queues as a healer/tank...quick to kick for wasting my time.
  • ThePaleItalian
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    Oh_Skrivva wrote: »
    I see where OP is coming from. I'm a long time player (well over Cp cap). Who has done all content except the dark brotherhood and some of thieves dlc. Reason for that is because I suffered a accident that put me in a cast the last 2 and a half months. Was able to get cast removed last week, still don't have full mobility in middle finger. (still a month or so more of an physical therapy needed). So I macro a side mouse button to use for my right clicks atm. So I'm feeling a little discouraged in doing end game content since I'm really rusty and my hand not being fully healed. So I've just logged on a few times to check things out. I'll get back to my normal grinding self eventually.

    I actually have a disability in my left arm which means I'm not very quick on the buttons either. I never thought about it but it might be one of the reasons I'm fearful. If I'm yelled at for being slow then it's not something I can control and just highlights (to me) a restriction I have. I still give it my all but I'm definitely holding myself back as far as that particular fear goes. If that makes sense!

    @AtmaDarkwolf I have only done the very first dungeon for the Undaunted and ran it 3 or 4 times. I usually carry the others but don't mind it. I feel I'm helping them experience it. My fears come from what others have experienced, disabilities I have that make me physically slower to react (but not so slow that I'm a sloth gamer - I do moderately well in PvP) - and just anxiety, shyness etc. There's loads of reasons but I'm definitely someone who gives it my all and tries to help as much as I'm able.

    ESO has been my first MMO and I have learnt a lot But min/maxing, builds, CP distribution...I was finding my groove. I enjoy how I play and think I'm where I want to be. So, I'll take the plunge and see how I do.

    Thank you everyone for the support and understanding. I think text chat will help those of us who prefer to communicate that way. I also think Guilds dedicated to introducing new players to dungeons is a fantastic idea.

    I know a few people have messaged me and I will get back to you soon!! :smiley:

    You can always play how I play on late night gaming runs. Just tap the controller on your head... o wear a helmet. Works for me.

    Here is my advice, join with a few people, if you run into the people that cause you this anxiety and such, then ignore. Seems like a vast group of people here would help you out. I am on PS4 NA as well and more than willing to lend a hand.
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    Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.

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  • Cazzy
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    This is a necro. I've done quite a few dungeons since this was posted :tongue:
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    It may be a necro, but still very applicable. I'm scared to death to do dungeons due to stories of poor behavior, speed runners, and my own anxiety. Don't belong to any guilds (other than my own..extra space :) ) Most guilds recruiting are looking for high CP or massive experience :(
    "Such is the nature of evil. Out there in the vast ignorance of the world, it festers and spreads. A shadow that grows in the dark. A sleepless malice as black as the oncoming wall of night. So it ever was, so will it always be. In time all foul things come forth." -Thranduil
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