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crushing shock reflectable why?

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why is crushing shock reflectable by dk's wings sorc vs dk, it is more of a beam than a projectile is very tricky, as have very limited skills I can use against it:- heavy attack lightening/restro staff curse mages wrath streak and I've never killed a dk with, everything else is coming back and sorc will never kill the dk with these skills alone. since some dks seem to be able to constantly keep up wings its a waste of time mostly I just don't bother. If shock wasn't reflectable, I think it would provide more balanced combat.
  • Lokey0024
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    It takes off 3 charges on 1 cast, right? So the second cast, if light weaved, is full dmg unless dk wings are spammed nonstop? Ive been hit fast by sorcs with crushing shock, like melted hp pool quick. This while using wings every 3ish seconds. Not saying its easy.
  • juhasman
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    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    It takes off 3 charges on 1 cast, right? So the second cast, if light weaved, is full dmg unless dk wings are spammed nonstop? Ive been hit fast by sorcs with crushing shock, like melted hp pool quick. This while using wings every 3ish seconds. Not saying its easy.

    Not anymore. Crushing shock now count as 1 projectile. So light attack+crushing shock is 2 projectiles so dk can reflect that rotation 2 times with 1 use of wings.
    Edited by juhasman on July 17, 2016 2:53PM
  • juhasman
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    why is crushing shock reflectable by dk's wings sorc vs dk, it is more of a beam than a projectile is very tricky, as have very limited skills I can use against it:- heavy attack lightening/restro staff curse mages wrath streak and I've never killed a dk with, everything else is coming back and sorc will never kill the dk with these skills alone. since some dks seem to be able to constantly keep up wings its a waste of time mostly I just don't bother. If shock wasn't reflectable, I think it would provide more balanced combat.

    Almost all if not all single target range abilites that are not chanelled are projectiles except gap closers.
    Edited by juhasman on July 17, 2016 2:55PM
  • Lokey0024
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    juhasman wrote: »
    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    It takes off 3 charges on 1 cast, right? So the second cast, if light weaved, is full dmg unless dk wings are spammed nonstop? Ive been hit fast by sorcs with crushing shock, like melted hp pool quick. This while using wings every 3ish seconds. Not saying its easy.

    Not anymore. Crushing shock now count as 1 projectile. So light attack+crushing shock is 2 projectiles so dk can reflect that rotation 2 times with 1 use of wings.

    Sucks.

    My wings are broken then cuz i have to recast like every 2 seconds. Weird.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    No no no no no please stop DK wings been nerfed enough as is.
  • NBrookus
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    Another #NerfDK thread? Seriously?
  • RebornV3x
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    I don't get why its reflectable either I agree with OP on this. The worst part is theirs no animation when it gets reflected back so you don't even know your getting hit by your own attack it took me many deaths to figure this out.
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    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?
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  • mook-eb16_ESO
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    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?

    go on elaborate your tactics

  • Seratopia
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    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?

    go on elaborate your tactics

    Power surge -> curse (non reflect) -> mages wrath x3 (wings ended by now 4 sec duration) frag should be proc'd by now -> frag the dk. He's knocked over -> do regular rotation until he's back on feet and does wings again. Then you repeat!

    That's how i approach them. Also put mines down in case he lunges you. Negate as well to silence especially when he's in execution range so he can't heal.
  • Armitas
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    #bring back meteor reflect.
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Armitas wrote: »
    #bring back meteor reflect.
    And make them double reflectable again. Was so awesome to drop a meteor on a dk, see him use wings, use defensive stance, watch him melt.
  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?

    go on elaborate your tactics

    I don't know @Seratopia, but he seems to have figured something out. I don't play a sorc, I'm sure @Force-Siphon sure could further enlighten the masses far better than I could.

    I see/play with Sorcs who don't have a problem with mag dk's, I don't think we should be asking for a skill to not be reflectable... Because you are countered by a class ability, when there are other abilities at your disposal. Especially crushing shock.

    Added: well sorry not especially crushing shock, just for the sake of one spammed ability.
    Edited by caeliusstarbreaker on July 18, 2016 11:32AM
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  • Seratopia
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    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?

    go on elaborate your tactics

    I don't know @Seratopia, but he seems to have figured something out. I don't play a sorc, I'm sure @Force-Siphon sure could further enlighten the masses far better than I could.

    I see/play with Sorcs who don't have a problem with mag dk's, I don't think we should be asking for a skill to not be reflectable... Because you are countered by a class ability, when there are other abilities at your disposal. Especially crushing shock.

    Well, thanks. Haha, but I'm not male. Not sure why my name comes off as masculine to everyone in this game. :blush:

    I main sorc so I had my fair share of dragonknights. :)
    Edited by Seratopia on July 18, 2016 11:35AM
  • Cherryblossom
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    why is crushing shock reflectable by dk's wings sorc vs dk, it is more of a beam than a projectile is very tricky, as have very limited skills I can use against it:- heavy attack lightening/restro staff curse mages wrath streak and I've never killed a dk with, everything else is coming back and sorc will never kill the dk with these skills alone. since some dks seem to be able to constantly keep up wings its a waste of time mostly I just don't bother. If shock wasn't reflectable, I think it would provide more balanced combat.

    If they are keeping up reflect they are not really doing much else so ignore them!
  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    Seratopia wrote: »
    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?

    go on elaborate your tactics

    I don't know @Seratopia, but he seems to have figured something out. I don't play a sorc, I'm sure @Force-Siphon sure could further enlighten the masses far better than I could.

    I see/play with Sorcs who don't have a problem with mag dk's, I don't think we should be asking for a skill to not be reflectable... Because you are countered by a class ability, when there are other abilities at your disposal. Especially crushing shock.

    Well, thanks. Haha, but I'm not male. Not sure why my name comes off as masculine to everyone in this game. :blush:

    I main sorc so I had my fair share of dragonknights. :)

    My apologies

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  • Minalan
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    Armitas wrote: »
    #bring back meteor reflect.

    Can we make dawnbreaker and Incap strike reflectable too? No?

    I guess not....
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    #bring back meteor reflect.

    Can we make dawnbreaker and Incap strike reflectable too? No?

    I guess not....

    As I said before DB can get nerfed when Meteor gets reflectable again.
  • PeggymoeXD
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    Please play as a DK before whining about them thank you and bye
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  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    If played correctly, the mSorc vs mDK fight should end in a stalemate, with a slight advantage to the sorc. Streak+mines should keep any mDK from ever being a threat, except the heavy attack gank build. Everything else is melee range and a sorc can keep the DK away. Wings is literally the only thing keeping the DK from being bursted in a few seconds. And it's a super expensive skill to cast on cool down.
  • Chilla_Deluxe
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    Dks took enough nerf in DB patch, they used to be boss, now NBs and stam templars are out performing them. Please stop the hate.
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  • Chilla_Deluxe
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    Seratopia wrote: »
    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?

    go on elaborate your tactics

    Power surge -> curse (non reflect) -> mages wrath x3 (wings ended by now 4 sec duration) frag should be proc'd by now -> frag the dk. He's knocked over -> do regular rotation until he's back on feet and does wings again. Then you repeat!

    That's how i approach them. Also put mines down in case he lunges you. Negate as well to silence especially when he's in execution range so he can't heal.

    Curse, Frags, Soul Assault, Mages Wrath is all you need really. Works everytime.
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  • Chilla_Deluxe
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    [Accident] Too bad you can't delete your own posts.
    Edited by Chilla_Deluxe on July 25, 2016 7:53AM
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  • Mojmir
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    Seratopia wrote: »
    Because there are other abilities that can/should be used?

    go on elaborate your tactics

    Power surge -> curse (non reflect) -> mages wrath x3 (wings ended by now 4 sec duration) frag should be proc'd by now -> frag the dk. He's knocked over -> do regular rotation until he's back on feet and does wings again. Then you repeat!

    That's how i approach them. Also put mines down in case he lunges you. Negate as well to silence especially when he's in execution range so he can't heal.

    Curse, Frags, Soul Assault, Mages Wrath is all you need really. Works everytime.

    #nerfsorcs :trollface:
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