Best class for Maelstrom? How would you rank them.

psychotic13 · July 2016

Basically I'm just looking for everyone's opinion on best to worst class (Magicka and stamina) for completing veteran maelstrom arena.

I've never really tried it before so I can't comment on that aspect, but your replies will help me on deciding which of my characters I should do it first on!

Wollust · July 2016

Magicka NB is by far the easiest class to do it with.

- Siphoning attacks to sustain endlessly
- Funnel health as spammable DPS skill and heal
- Execute, dots, healing ground AoE

KingDuncanVII · July 2016

Wollust wrote: »

Magicka NB is by far the easiest class to do it with.

- Siphoning attacks to sustain endlessly
- Funnel health as spammable DPS skill and heal
- Execute, dots, healing ground AoE

Please, show me the way. Lol. Build, rotation, CP distribution, all of it. I can't for the life of me figure this ship out.

psychotic13 · July 2016

Magblades are the best now are they? How do magsorcs rank these days? I have both levelled but haven't played my magblade in months so I figure it would take a little time just to get used to using him again.

KenaPKK · July 2016

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aalXmsgHHys

My buddy Kuscoe tearing it up. He taught me Maelstrom, and now I am Flawless with it on farm. Big damage item sets, at least a gold main weapon will make a huge difference. CP into ele expert and crit damage and whatever kills you. Thief mundus. His bar setup is nice, but you can move things around to suit your needs. I personally don't bother with proxy, and I find Agony to be helpful. You can see his rotation. He has a full run video out somewhere of one of his first flawless runs, no sigils too, but I can't find it. Good luck.

Nefas · July 2016

Magicka/Stam Sorc & Nightblade are the most rewarding (faster times when done right) and in my opinion the easiest.

Magicka Templar is a "safe" route (great sustain just in case). Stamplar can be slighty slower or faster than its magicka counterpart.

Dragonknights have it the worst in my opinion. Magicka DK can be slow paced. Stam DKs are boring.

MaxwellC · July 2016

Not sure but I suck on my Mag DK while my Stam DK I can pull off with 1-4 deaths if I'm lucky.

Ep1kMalware · July 2016

it was SIGNIFICANTLY harder on my stam templar than mnb. Vmsa vert strongly leans toward magica classes, with the exception of a few certain large add clusters stam users have an easier time aoe'ing down. mnb has a healing aoe, ranged interrupt, annulment, etc. so handy on almost everything in vmsa.

xblackroxe · July 2016

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

it was SIGNIFICANTLY harder on my stam templar than mnb. Vmsa vert strongly leans toward magica classes, with the exception of a few certain large add clusters stam users have an easier time aoe'ing down. mnb has a healing aoe, ranged interrupt, annulment, etc. so handy on almost everything in vmsa.

Not true anymore that vma caters more to magicka than stamina. In most classes stamina is on par if not better than magicka. And its not that much harder to play also.

Lucky28 · July 2016

xblackroxe wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

it was SIGNIFICANTLY harder on my stam templar than mnb. Vmsa vert strongly leans toward magica classes, with the exception of a few certain large add clusters stam users have an easier time aoe'ing down. mnb has a healing aoe, ranged interrupt, annulment, etc. so handy on almost everything in vmsa.

Not true anymore that vma caters more to magicka than stamina. In most classes stamina is on par if not better than magicka. And its not that much harder to play also.

yeah. kinda funny that Stamina heals are better than magicka heals.

Morbash · July 2016

Magicka NB takes the number one spot in my opinion. They've got it all. Heals, mobility, damage, and amazing ult gen with soul harvest. I can drop shooting stars left, right and center.

susmitds · July 2016

Magicka NB takes this one. Stamina Nightblade is pretty close as well along with Magicka Sorcerer and Stamina Sorcerer.

sbam66 · July 2016

1.MagNB
2. MagSorc
3. Stamplar
4. Magplar
5. StamDK
6. StamSorc
7. StamNB
8. MagDK

Schemering · July 2016

The magicka nightblade has a great singe target main damage skill that heals a lot over time AND an aoe skill that heals a lot instantly...

drumbendrum_ESO · July 2016

I use TBS/Briarheart with Stam sorc now as my go too. It takes time to develop the understanding of each round of VMA, specially with Stam builds but I have always been Stam and always will be. Magika has easier times but for me my first clear had to be on my Stam dk. Play what class you know the best and have the fastest responses to any situation thrown at you.

GL

Ep1kMalware · July 2016

xblackroxe wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

it was SIGNIFICANTLY harder on my stam templar than mnb. Vmsa vert strongly leans toward magica classes, with the exception of a few certain large add clusters stam users have an easier time aoe'ing down. mnb has a healing aoe, ranged interrupt, annulment, etc. so handy on almost everything in vmsa.

Not true anymore that vma caters more to magicka than stamina. In most classes stamina is on par if not better than magicka. And its not that much harder to play also.

stagee 97 and 9 are much much much easier on magica though. it just feels easy once on stam once you've done it enough times. for a 'f=completion' run magics nb is easy as hell.

xblackroxe · July 2016

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

it was SIGNIFICANTLY harder on my stam templar than mnb. Vmsa vert strongly leans toward magica classes, with the exception of a few certain large add clusters stam users have an easier time aoe'ing down. mnb has a healing aoe, ranged interrupt, annulment, etc. so handy on almost everything in vmsa.

Not true anymore that vma caters more to magicka than stamina. In most classes stamina is on par if not better than magicka. And its not that much harder to play also.

stagee 97 and 9 are much much much easier on magica though. it just feels easy once on stam once you've done it enough times. for a 'f=completion' run magics nb is easy as hell.

Well 7 is just not getting hit by poison plants and stage 9 is no problem as stamina has so much damage. Especially Stamblade is so bursty.

Kammakazi · July 2016

Sorcerer.

Ep1kMalware · July 2016

xblackroxe wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

xblackroxe wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

it was SIGNIFICANTLY harder on my stam templar than mnb. Vmsa vert strongly leans toward magica classes, with the exception of a few certain large add clusters stam users have an easier time aoe'ing down. mnb has a healing aoe, ranged interrupt, annulment, etc. so handy on almost everything in vmsa.

Not true anymore that vma caters more to magicka than stamina. In most classes stamina is on par if not better than magicka. And its not that much harder to play also.

stagee 97 and 9 are much much much easier on magica though. it just feels easy once on stam once you've done it enough times. for a 'f=completion' run magics nb is easy as hell.

Well 7 is just not getting hit by poison plants and stage 9 is no problem as stamina has so much damage. Especially Stamblade is so bursty.

right, but mng can range interrupt boss so some of the rng placement is under complete negation, annulment helps infinitelt more than some people think it does. and stg9 you don't have to get close to crem guards, and have decent range dps on crystals. these are things that pften cause people to not co,plete the dungeon. because you can completely bypass rng and cheese certain mechanics I HAVE to vote mnb even though I'm mucn stronger and more familiar with my stamina templar.

which is another reason I vote mnb. I can respec my snb to magica, slot skills I'm not familiar with, on a charachter I don't play but once a day to do WRITD amd still get an easy comllete. vs a toon I play every day for all the content in the game.

Samphaa · July 2016

Mag sorc is easy but ridiculously boring. Mag nb is awesome fun and hard hitting, stam sorc is the most powerful class I've played in there, it's awesome.

Qbiken · July 2016

Well, time to change the Altmer Vicious trollbuild to a vmsa build XD

Wollust · July 2016

KingDuncanVII wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Magicka NB is by far the easiest class to do it with.

- Siphoning attacks to sustain endlessly
- Funnel health as spammable DPS skill and heal
- Execute, dots, healing ground AoE

Please, show me the way. Lol. Build, rotation, CP distribution, all of it. I can't for the life of me figure this ship out.

@KingDuncanVII
I'm not an expert or anything, I just do it occasionally to get on the weekly, but if it helps sure, here's my build and stuff:

In general:
Try to reach around 18-19k health, everything else into Magicka.
Blue max Magicka/Health food.
Spell Power Pots.
I use the shadow mundus, thief might be better tho idk.

5x Julianos (3l, 1h, 1m) (Divines)
2x Valkyn Skoria (or Kena) (2l) (Divines)
Sharpened Maelstrom Lightning staff (you can use random sharpened staff here with a spell power enchant)
Resto staff
3x Willpower with spell damage enchants.

Skills:
Bar 1: Funnel health, Inner Light, Cripple, Wall of Elements, Merciless Resolve, Shooting Star
Bar 2: Siphoning Attacks, Innner Light, Healing Ward, Impale, Refreshing Path, Soul Harvest

Well not much I can say about rotation. Keep siphoning up, keep your wall of elements up, keep up and stand in refreshing path, keep cripple up for dot and mobility, weave light attacks with funnel health, shoot merciless resolve whenever it's available and especially keep it up because of its minor berserk, execute with impale but don't forget to weave light attacks. Use shooting star whenever you have a few mobs packed up or for tough mobs. While executing bosses prioritize shooting star, if you won't get it in a reasonable timeframe however, use soul harvest to gain the 6s damage boost on your executes.

And well, that's it. That's how I do it and succeed okayish. I'm not much of a fan of that solo thing, so I don't really go for competitive scores. But this is enough to grant me the weekly for sure.

stevepdodson_ESO888 · July 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

Basically I'm just looking for everyone's opinion on best to worst class (Magicka and stamina) for completing veteran maelstrom arena.

I've never really tried it before so I can't comment on that aspect, but your replies will help me on deciding which of my characters I should do it first on!

don't forget..whatever anyone else tells you is the best class most of them only farm vMA using Cheat Engine, but "Cheat Engine" is not a specific class in game

Wollust · July 2016

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

psychotic13 wrote: »

Basically I'm just looking for everyone's opinion on best to worst class (Magicka and stamina) for completing veteran maelstrom arena.

I've never really tried it before so I can't comment on that aspect, but your replies will help me on deciding which of my characters I should do it first on!

don't forget..whatever anyone else tells you is the best class most of them only farm vMA using Cheat Engine, but "Cheat Engine" is not a specific class in game

You take the prize for the most stupid and ridiculous comment today. Gz.

Vangy · July 2016

? Magplar and magblade are by far the easier to wreck with. Mag sorc comes in close. The biggest benefit of using a magtoon is not the size of the heals cos stamina has comparable heals. The biggest benefit of using mag toons is you can damage AND heal at the same time. Jabs, siphon etc etc. For stam u need to stop ur dps and actually cast a heal. Which slows u down or gets u killed.

psychotic13 · July 2016

I ended up choosing my MagSorc to do it, my Magblade is completely spec'd into crafting at the moment so just left him.

Did the first 2 rounds first try, found the 3rd round somewhat challenging until I figured out the mechanics and now I'm on the 4th boss round, the control Guardian I believe he's called? Anyway what's the best way to go about this? Kill the adds or not? I've read a few guides but they all have a different opinion on this, and they seem to overwhelm me if I leave them, any tips are appreciated.

Random question, which round is the most challenging?

GreenhaloX · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aalXmsgHHys

My buddy Kuscoe tearing it up. He taught me Maelstrom, and now I am Flawless with it on farm. Big damage item sets, at least a gold main weapon will make a huge difference. CP into ele expert and crit damage and whatever kills you. Thief mundus. His bar setup is nice, but you can move things around to suit your needs. I personally don't bother with proxy, and I find Agony to be helpful. You can see his rotation. He has a full run video out somewhere of one of his first flawless runs, no sigils too, but I can't find it. Good luck.

Nice! I also get notifications daily that a guildmate has completed VMA and seems to be bunch of the same folks.. completing it over and over again with scores in the 400 to over 500k. I bow to your friend and these others, especially those with flawless and stormproof. Oh yes, I'm still trying to plus up my elemental, poison and physical defensive slots. I saw a few posted a screenshot of what their stats are, and seems all their defensive slots are in the 60 CPs. Mine is still in the 30s. So, if I can at least get mine to be at least in the 50s, I will give it a shot.

Pallio · July 2016

From everything you can read on vMA, Mag is easier than Stam. Mostly due to range and resource management. But, the most important aspect is learning the mechanics, where the spawns are, priority targets etc. In my opinion when people do it on the harder classes ie. stam DK, it is after they have learned the place and farmed it for weapons on easier builds ie. Mag NB...

AGrz5585 · July 2016

I for the life of me cannot complete, vma. Cannot get past stage 5 on magNB and cannot beat final round on my sorc. I just get overwhelmed and die.

Thought of trying it on my magplar, since I solo silver pledges with him, but being a vampire for will get me kill instantly.

Guess I'm not supposed to complete this and get any shiny maelstrom weapons

SublimeSparo · July 2016

AGrz5585 wrote: »

I for the life of me cannot complete, vma. Cannot get past stage 5 on magNB and cannot beat final round on my sorc. I just get overwhelmed and die.

Thought of trying it on my magplar, since I solo silver pledges with him, but being a vampire for will get me kill instantly.

Guess I'm not supposed to complete this and get any shiny maelstrom weapons

If you are having trouble on stage 5 with mnb, soul tether is your friend