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Vruci
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I've been playing EvE online for a long time now- but am finally picking up ESO again. Eve has a permanent player count of 30,000 accounts, half of which are probably alts. So with that in mind how does the (N/A server) player count of ESO stack up? Is it the same sort of deal with 15,000 actual players more or less between all three factions? More per faction? Does anyone even know?
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Vruci wrote: »
    I've been playing EvE online for a long time now- but am finally picking up ESO again. Eve has a permanent player count of 30,000 accounts, half of which are probably alts. So with that in mind how does the (N/A server) player count of ESO stack up? Is it the same sort of deal with 15,000 actual players more or less between all three factions? More per faction? Does anyone even know?

    Unless Zenimax actually comes out and tells us (which they won't) there is no way to know. Best bet is wait for One Tamriel later this year when factions will all be brought closer together.
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  • Smileybones
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    We don't have actual numbers about players population. All we have as official number is that ESO had 7 million players ( copies sold). How much of them plays actively, we don't know. The game is quite lively on NA tho.
  • Vruci
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    Whoah o.o

    One Tamriel? Closer together? Like I could play with my DC buddies? Explain please :P
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Vruci wrote: »
    Whoah o.o

    One Tamriel? Closer together? Like I could play with my DC buddies? Explain please :P

    You just pretty much explained it to yourself lol

    Every player in every faction. Every zone in the game battle-leveled. No barriers whatsoever preventing free roaming.

    One Tamriel, free for all.
    One Tamriel to excite them.
    One Tamriel to bring them all,
    And in the wilderness amaze them!
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on July 13, 2016 5:13AM
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  • Vruci
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    Low key legit :D
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  • BlackSparrow
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    Vruci wrote: »
    Whoah o.o

    One Tamriel? Closer together? Like I could play with my DC buddies? Explain please :P

    Yeah, pretty much. No matter your difference in level, too.

    It's outlined in this news post: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/12/matt-firors-message-from-be3

    That's also the post where the "7 million" was announced, which, yeah, should be taken with a grain of salt. Game's a healthy size, though.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Vruci wrote: »
    Low key legit :D

    I'm a heavy reference kind of guy lol so with a name like "One Tamriel" it's very hard to resist referencing the One Ring :p
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  • Vruci
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    One Tamriel to try them- and in the darkness bind them

    Haha :P
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    Vruci wrote: »
    One Tamriel to try them- and in the darkness bind them

    Haha :P

    Nah too many are looking forward to One Tamriel with the hype of 11 school girls, and their faculty advisor. To them, it's a shining beacon of light at the end of the currently dark tunnel lol
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  • Vruci
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    Remember Ultima- one does not simply 'play' One Tamriel
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Vruci wrote: »
    Remember Ultima- one does not simply 'play' One Tamriel

    Yeah. After all we don't have ALL of it yet lol


    I await the day we get to see the College of Winterhold in it's prime...
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  • Vruci
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    Awww man that'd be awesome. Always wondered how far back winter hold went before it eroded into the ghost sea or whatnot.




    How awesome would it be if Phinius Gester was there?
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  • altemriel
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    Vruci wrote: »
    I've been playing EvE online for a long time now- but am finally picking up ESO again. Eve has a permanent player count of 30,000 accounts, half of which are probably alts. So with that in mind how does the (N/A server) player count of ESO stack up? Is it the same sort of deal with 15,000 actual players more or less between all three factions? More per faction? Does anyone even know?

    PC EU is also pretty much populated all the time
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    altemriel wrote: »
    Vruci wrote: »
    I've been playing EvE online for a long time now- but am finally picking up ESO again. Eve has a permanent player count of 30,000 accounts, half of which are probably alts. So with that in mind how does the (N/A server) player count of ESO stack up? Is it the same sort of deal with 15,000 actual players more or less between all three factions? More per faction? Does anyone even know?

    PC EU is also pretty much populated all the time

    A little bit too populated xD

    It was nice and manageable about a year ago when the game was at it's all time low, now it is too full. PvP after midday is a no-go zone, most non-veteran zones are so full - farming runs are not possible without constant competition. Hah, nah it's all good, the game is doing well by the looks of it, i just prefer less people around is all :P
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  • Vruci
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    Wonderful to know, I see no point in playing a dying game... But ESO is certainly still alive :D
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    Def more than 15,000.
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    My concern is three times the ppl in farming zones and leveling grinding zones I am very good in both areas and get a good 20 hate whispers daily. Are they going to triple the respawn times? I don't mind getting more but it's not very fair. I am sure the amount of rage quits are epic. I hope ZOS thinks this out very carefully.
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    More than 15k per faction @PurifedBladez?

    And @DHale- higher spawn times only means more grinders, which only makes more of a Charlie Foxtrot for everyone 3:
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    Am I the only person that is deeply hesitant about making ALL of the PVE zones battle-leveled?

    I mean, fresh out of the coldharbour prison and your base stats are battle leveled to match that of a level 50? So that if your level 3 potato and a level 50 champ0 character had nothing but identical swords, the ONLY thing that would make a difference would be the level 50 has used skill points?

    Take it a step further. You are a brand new player. You step out the door from the place you wake up, fresh from the coldharbour prison. An established player stands there and hands you a full set of gear for your character type. Now, on DAY ONE of your time in tamriel you are level-scaled to match the stats of people who have been playing for months. On DAY ONE you can walk the roads of the fifth zone of your alliance (reapers march, alik'r, eastmarch) and swing your sword / blast your staff / fire your bow with just as much oomph as someone who has leveled their character 40+ times already.

    Does this universal level-scaling they are talking about disturb anyone else, or is it just me?
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Cryptical wrote: »
    Am I the only person that is deeply hesitant about making ALL of the PVE zones battle-leveled?

    Nope. Personally I am against it but whuddyagunnado.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on July 15, 2016 11:36PM
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    If the numbers were good, they would be using it as a marketing tactic and bragging right. Since they don't, we have to assume the numbers are unimpressively low.
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    Cryptical wrote: »
    Am I the only person that is deeply hesitant about making ALL of the PVE zones battle-leveled?

    I mean, fresh out of the coldharbour prison and your base stats are battle leveled to match that of a level 50? So that if your level 3 potato and a level 50 champ0 character had nothing but identical swords, the ONLY thing that would make a difference would be the level 50 has used skill points?

    Take it a step further. You are a brand new player. You step out the door from the place you wake up, fresh from the coldharbour prison. An established player stands there and hands you a full set of gear for your character type. Now, on DAY ONE of your time in tamriel you are level-scaled to match the stats of people who have been playing for months. On DAY ONE you can walk the roads of the fifth zone of your alliance (reapers march, alik'r, eastmarch) and swing your sword / blast your staff / fire your bow with just as much oomph as someone who has leveled their character 40+ times already.

    Does this universal level-scaling they are talking about disturb anyone else, or is it just me?

    Given how it works now? No, it's just you. Battlescaling puts you to CR150, not max level, and while it does scale your gear up, it doesn't magically turn it into a set, trait it for you or improve it's quality.

    That's before you consider that skill point allocation applies to passives as well as actives. So as a level 3 fresh out of Cold Harbour, you not as good at being a member of your own race as the CR501 in front of you is. Also, as a vet you'll have access to CP, which will affect your overall power.

    There is a legitimate problem, where there's going to be a kind of leveling treadmill effect going on as you go up, and you'll probably feel a sharp dip in power when you go from your mid-40s to CR10. Hopefully they can address that, but otherwise, no. The system isn't perfect, but you will feel progress.
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    Solariken wrote: »
    If the numbers were good, they would be using it as a marketing tactic and bragging right. Since they don't, we have to assume the numbers are unimpressively low.

    Or the numbers are good so they don't really care. Lol.
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    PurifedBladez wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    If the numbers were good, they would be using it as a marketing tactic and bragging right. Since they don't, we have to assume the numbers are unimpressively low.

    Or the numbers are good so they don't really care. Lol.

    Seeing how Blizz prided themselves on having 12 million subs back in the day Id say thats unlikely :P
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  • PurifedBladez
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    khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
    PurifedBladez wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    If the numbers were good, they would be using it as a marketing tactic and bragging right. Since they don't, we have to assume the numbers are unimpressively low.

    Or the numbers are good so they don't really care. Lol.

    Seeing how Blizz prided themselves on having 12 million subs back in the day Id say thats unlikely :P

    Yeah but, do you hear much about the size of the playerbase now? You don't and it's still has millions of players. Soo
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    PurifedBladez wrote: »
    khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
    PurifedBladez wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    If the numbers were good, they would be using it as a marketing tactic and bragging right. Since they don't, we have to assume the numbers are unimpressively low.

    Or the numbers are good so they don't really care. Lol.

    Seeing how Blizz prided themselves on having 12 million subs back in the day Id say thats unlikely :P

    Yeah but, do you hear much about the size of the playerbase now? You don't and it's still has millions of players. Soo

    You dont advertise your sub base is steadily declining.
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    khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
    PurifedBladez wrote: »
    khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
    PurifedBladez wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    If the numbers were good, they would be using it as a marketing tactic and bragging right. Since they don't, we have to assume the numbers are unimpressively low.

    Or the numbers are good so they don't really care. Lol.

    Seeing how Blizz prided themselves on having 12 million subs back in the day Id say thats unlikely :P

    Yeah but, do you hear much about the size of the playerbase now? You don't and it's still has millions of players. Soo

    You dont advertise your sub base is steadily declining.

    Blizz has been slowly losing players since... I want to say Wrath of the Lich King. It's been years. It's not that WoW is dying, just that the playerbase is diminishing, like in a normal MMO.
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