Welldone , you fixed the fix that did,nt fix the hotfixfail BUT. . . . .

qrichou · July 2016

Is it not time to fix the broken stunstack by fear , dyszing swing crtitbash , and other fun stamina tricks wich so easely can by ac,d .
Or as the pro-cheat,s call it "weaving .
Where you get bellyflopped sliding over the ground not being able to get up , feared in wall , rocks cage or other fun stuff
How you call it does not matter .
Fact still is ,the stamina abilty,s allows you stun any player for 8 or more sec , even npc,s do it so it must be oke right?
What is the point in having magica as it does not give you any chance when you r down ,running flapping your hands in the air while being petrived .
Ooh i forgot to say it stacks with any other stun fear , immobelize ability ?
There is no immunity after any breakfree or stun runs out .
And this is known since launch .

please . do what you are supposed to do.

leepalmer95 · July 2016

Ok lets tackle this:

1. Do you even grammer bro.
2. Learn 2 break free.
3. Fear is a magicka cc not a stamina one.
4..No stamina cc allows you to stun for 8 seconds, that is a lie.
5. Manage your stamina better as a magicka builds, don't run around with 9k and no tri pots then dodge roll.

Regards, the Truth.

qrichou · July 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Ok lets tackle this:

1. Do you even grammer bro.
2. Learn 2 break free.
3. Fear is a magicka cc not a stamina one.
4..No stamina cc allows you to stun for 8 seconds, that is a lie.
5. Manage your stamina better as a magicka builds, don't run around with 9k and no tri pots then dodge roll.

Regards, the Truth.

1 do you ever try another langues than english and bad or good gremur aint a valid argument
2 learn to read , breakfree needs stamina .
3 good point point give templars fear to.
4 yes it stacks critrush fear venom arrow dyzing 4 player aply it , it stacks .
5 That my point what is the use of magica .

Friendly greetings the facts.

Waffennacht · July 2016

Weaving and or animation cancelling is not cheating and will be around forever. Either learn to do it, or don't, but you'll always have to deal with it.

Lag and bugs effect everyone, we all hate lag and bugs

Stamina will always have an advantage dealing with CCs as a magicka player you must accommodate for this by using foods or gear etc that give you more stamina or reduce costs.

I absolutely hate fear, not because it's a good CC but because half the time you wont know it's on you (see previous lag comment) or it won't CC break immediately.

Here's the thing though magicka sorcs can produce mad damage, magicka temps have mad heals and beams of holy face melting, magicka NBs have the fear, and DKs have flappy wings etc. My point is, each class has ways to work around CCs and most of your listed complaints.

The only thing I can get on board with is the bugs and lag, but then that's half the created threads.

qrichou · July 2016

@waffennacht its possible to. go full health , full stamina ,but full magica is not possible .
Take vma as a excample it simply will not work .
dmg is to low or you caant break free
So i think templars need some class breakfree or a nerf in all stun abillitys .
And although we diff about ac , its an extra from ac that gets you flat and sliding

Smasherx74 · July 2016

They also fixed the Memento causing glitch which changing load zones during cool down, however they stil havent fixed characters with broken memento mechanic.

pcar944 · July 2016

last night, I got pulled out of a Keep by Templar Spear, dragged UNDERGROUND to Aleswell farm, pulled from UNDER the map to the top, then tossed BACK into the Alesswell front door

and Ive seen some of the other stuff OP mentioned

Waffennacht · July 2016

pcar944 wrote: »

last night, I got pulled out of a Keep by Templar Spear, dragged UNDERGROUND to Aleswell farm, pulled from UNDER the map to the top, then tossed BACK into the Alesswell front door

and Ive seen some of the other stuff OP mentioned

Now that's "with godlike strength"

leepalmer95 · July 2016

qrichou wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Ok lets tackle this:

1. Do you even grammer bro.
2. Learn 2 break free.
3. Fear is a magicka cc not a stamina one.
4..No stamina cc allows you to stun for 8 seconds, that is a lie.
5. Manage your stamina better as a magicka builds, don't run around with 9k and no tri pots then dodge roll.

Regards, the Truth.

1 do you ever try another langues than english and bad or good gremur aint a valid argument
2 learn to read , breakfree needs stamina .
3 good point point give templars fear to.
4 yes it stacks critrush fear venom arrow dyzing 4 player aply it , it stacks .
5 That my point what is the use of magica .

Friendly greetings the facts.

Templars are in a very good point they don't need fear, either stamina of mag templars, learn your class.

Crit rush isn't a cc, venom arrow isn't, fear is a nb cc and dizzying is a cc of it's own. If you get feared a nb isn't going to dizzying you..., if you get dizzying your not going to be feared after it.

Magicka has a lot of class dps skills, class utility.

Wings, BoL, Purges, Shields, Frag, Sweeps, Templar gap closer, 90% of mag dk's skills are magicka, etc... The majority of class skills are magicka, magicka has it's place, either learn to play your character better or make a stamina character and then complain about magicka when you do.

Destyran · July 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Ok lets tackle this:

1. Do you even grammer bro.
2. Learn 2 break free.
3. Fear is a magicka cc not a stamina one.
4..No stamina cc allows you to stun for 8 seconds, that is a lie.
5. Manage your stamina better as a magicka builds, don't run around with 9k and no tri pots then dodge roll.

Regards, the Truth.

There is a cc that keeps you sliding on ground its a arrow ability you cant break it. I got pushed from the yellow side of allesia bridge into slaughter fish water from one nb spamming something at me

qrichou · July 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

qrichou wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Ok lets tackle this:

1. Do you even grammer bro.
2. Learn 2 break free.
3. Fear is a magicka cc not a stamina one.
4..No stamina cc allows you to stun for 8 seconds, that is a lie.
5. Manage your stamina better as a magicka builds, don't run around with 9k and no tri pots then dodge roll.

Regards, the Truth.

1 do you ever try another langues than english and bad or good gremur aint a valid argument
2 learn to read , breakfree needs stamina .
3 good point point give templars fear to.
4 yes it stacks critrush fear venom arrow dyzing 4 player aply it , it stacks .
5 That my point what is the use of magica .

Friendly greetings the facts.

Templars are in a very good point they don't need fear, either stamina of mag templars, learn your class.

Crit rush isn't a cc, venom arrow isn't, fear is a nb cc and dizzying is a cc of it's own. If you get feared a nb isn't going to dizzying you..., if you get dizzying your not going to be feared after it.

Magicka has a lot of class dps skills, class utility.

Wings, BoL, Purges, Shields, Frag, Sweeps, Templar gap closer, 90% of mag dk's skills are magicka, etc... The majority of class skills are magicka, magicka has it's place, either learn to play your character better or make a stamina character and then complain about magicka when you do.

I don,t know what nb will do , i do know crit rush , fear ,dizzying ,petrify stack with eachother
I was in a situation where i got healed thru a 14 sec stun , which is just ridiculous .
Most of the time im dead in 8 sec.
Point still remains that even with all the skill , without stamina you die .
Which make,s me think that full magica builds are not for solo like vma .
Templars have no stun that come,s closse to thoose effect,s
Maybe a breakfree that uses magica instead stamina might help
The toppling charge doesnt work closeby , ambush does . shards needs 2 button pushes , 1 to aim next to confirm .
Its so much dissadvantage compared to easy ac stam classes .
Yes i can be op , but only in a group
But a lvl 27 can rek me, only by stunstacking me .

Waffennacht · July 2016

Well CC's actually happen a lot less in PvE than PvP making a magicka build more viable in PvE. I would agree you can't ignore stamina in PvP, that's why I run Purp food and maybe 1 robust jewelry on my sorc.

No, very few classes have access to Fear or a CC as good.

Yes, for a very long time now, many players know the advantages of a stam character, such as the Breakfree etc, it's not gonna change, remember, "some classes are just better than others"

PvE and PvP two completely different animals, that's why all players have a PvE set up AND a PvP set up, and usually have to pay in respec to go from one to another.

vMA was mostly done by Magicka Sorc, so clearly magicka builds can do it.

For a Templar you just jabs jabs jabs jabs until you win.

And yes, I've (since day one) have mentioned the advantages stam have over Magicka

Such as magicka has 2 non class dps 4 if you include staff abilities and stamina has the rest.

After DB stam got all the love

DemonDruaga · July 2016

Well for vmsa my full mag nb and full mag dk with 18k life and ~9k stam did perform pretty well. In pvp it is a different story tough.

bebynnag · July 2016

it is a commonly held myth that stamina especially bow users have access to a skill that makes ones character slide on the floor

THEY DO NOT

stamina characters when build correctly are able to produce tremendously high amounts of burst damage ) which instantly kill you - either from a single hit, or a 'weaved' hit
(FYI magic builds can also produce high burst damage but thats another thread)

when you, or i or anyone else are in a busy campaign or a dungeon/trial that is riddled with lag atm, and we are attacked (usually from stealth) the server basically has a OMFG did you just see that moment!

it takes the server a while to process what has happend & break the news to your character (update your visual information),

during this time you are running around like normal, occasionally your magic & stamina will completley deplete, occassionally you will start sliding around on the floor

usually though you are walking/running/rolling/streaking/gapclosing around normal (although you may notice not actually doing any damage - this is usually the first indicator that somethings up);

sometimes everyone around you, allies & enemy can see that you are dead, sometimes the enemy's kill was so epic, they are also in shock and have no idea what is going on.

occasionally people will start sliding around on the floor;

this is not cheating or explointing (i mean as you said npc's do it so....) its LAG!

qrichou · July 2016

I am trying to find out how to put recordings up here when i do i will post some.
My only pc internet connection is my xbox1 .

luxfreak · July 2016

qrichou wrote: »

@waffennacht its possible to. go full health , full stamina ,but full magica is not possible .
Take vma as a excample it simply will not work .
dmg is to low or you caant break free
So i think templars need some class breakfree or a nerf in all stun abillitys .
And although we diff about ac , its an extra from ac that gets you flat and sliding

All top Scores in MSA are done with Magika builds, as they provide soo much more damage. Sorcs and Blades especially have the advantage with range-casting over there stamina counterpart.

Edited to remove insult

Sunburnt_Penguin · July 2016

What I think OP is trying to say is that there's a bug/glitch/exploit (whatever) with stun where even if you break free, you're not immune.