Question about Necropotence set

PURPLE245 · July 2016

where does it drop 160cp does anyone know

Morathras · July 2016

patch 11 in AA and Hel Ra

DRXHarbinger · July 2016

Gold zones too up to cp 120 iirc.

Vercingetorix · July 2016

When the PTS patch goes live, you will be able to get it again in the older Craglorn Trials at 160. Keep in mind the set was nerfed and provides 4000 magicka (instead of 10% magicka). It won't boost your magicka stat up like it used to.

Rex-Umbra · July 2016

I thought it was a pvp set?

Transairion · July 2016

It only drops in CP120(?) at present, in Update 11 it will drop in He-Ra Trial and Aetherian Archive Trial at CP160 (and as another poster said, instead of +10% Max Magicka it'll now be a flat +4000 magicka).

Personally I think Necropotence was always a bit rubbish, pets don't scale well enough with Max Magicka to make going all-in Max Magicka worth it.

susmitds · July 2016

Now that it works with Shadow Image, this is going to a great Magicka NB set.

Azoryl · July 2016

So... if you are less then 40000 magicka then it is a buff... if you are above it is a slight nerf

WuffyCerulei · July 2016

Vercingetorix wrote: »

When the PTS patch goes live, you will be able to get it again in the older Craglorn Trials at 160. Keep in mind the set was nerfed and provides 4000 magicka (instead of 10% magicka). It won't boost your magicka stat up like it used to.

4000 magicka is a lot compared to 10%. 10% of 20k magicka is just 2k, and 3k for 30k magicka. This is more so a buff.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · July 2016

Azoryl wrote: »

So... if you are less then 40000 magicka then it is a buff... if you are above it is a slight nerf

I was wondering about this myself. I'm at 40,400 give or take on a pure max magic build. I know I can get to 42,000 by changing a few skills, and I'm on an Imperial with no undaunted passives so I know I have room to grow.

Anyway, I was hoping that Necropetance would be the key to hitting 50k. I guess we'll see.

juhasman · July 2016

The good thing is they're changing traits so no shity trait in this set anymore.

Panth141 · July 2016

Assuming that the 5pc bonus slots into the early section of the stat pool calculation, then you'll be be getting much more than 4k; it'd be something more like

4k * CP multiplier * skills/passives

I think that the CP multiplier is something like +17/18%, along with racials and things like inner light. So the contribution is likely to be greater than 10% in all but those builds pushing 50k+ magicka

juhasman · July 2016

Panth141 wrote: »

Assuming that the 5pc bonus slots into the early section of the stat pool calculation, then you'll be be getting much more than 4k; it'd be something more like

4k * CP multiplier * skills/passives

I think that the CP multiplier is something like +17/18%, along with racials and things like inner light. So the contribution is likely to be greater than 10% in all but those builds pushing 50k+ magicka

With 300 cp template in setup : master staff, monster mask , necropotnece , willpower i had 54k. It can be pushed even higher with more cp's and with sets like descruction mastery which gives almost 3,5k magicka overall.

Panth141 · July 2016

juhasman wrote: »

Panth141 wrote: »

Assuming that the 5pc bonus slots into the early section of the stat pool calculation, then you'll be be getting much more than 4k; it'd be something more like

4k * CP multiplier * skills/passives

I think that the CP multiplier is something like +17/18%, along with racials and things like inner light. So the contribution is likely to be greater than 10% in all but those builds pushing 50k+ magicka

With 300 cp template in setup : master staff, monster mask , necropotnece , willpower i had 54k. It can be pushed even higher with more cp's and with sets like descruction mastery which gives almost 3,5k magicka overall.

Sounds about right... It could create some pretty fun Sorc builds.

Just to repeat, if your base magicka without necropotence isn't already at or above to the 50k mark, then the set has been buffed.

I only have my phone with me right now, so I don't have all the data, otherwise I'd work out the exact cut off point in different scenarios - though I'm sure someone is on this already!

greylox · July 2016

I'll get the new set and just see what's best, I think it'll be close but if it's available in anything other than sturdy for once then it should beat it in my case. Got a gold set on an argonian sorc atm and I'm getting just under 47k magicka with my setup (full pet build).

Can't wait to check out the new one.

PURPLE245 · July 2016

i made a magic nb on pts and i get 55k max magic with shadow image up

love it i had 3x willpower x5Necropotence x2 engine and masters destro/resto and im hitting soo damn hard im even thinking of swapping out the 2 engine for x2 kena because the sustain is so nice on magic nb with siphoning attacks

Fat_Cat45 · July 2016

Azoryl wrote: »

So... if you are less then 40000 magicka then it is a buff... if you are above it is a slight nerf

This isn't entirely accurate, the value is actually lower for when its more of a buff than the previous 10% version. Probably around 30k magicka without the following:

Remove max magicka % from racial passives.

Remove about 17% magicka if you are at the 501 CP cap.

This is because it now adds a flat magicka value instead of another additive multiplier. The 4k magicka can now be increased by racial passives, bound armor, CP, and so on. Where the old 10% buff is only additive 10% from your base magicka pool before any other % multipliers

susmitds · July 2016

PURPLE245 wrote: »

i made a magic nb on pts and i get 55k max magic with shadow image up love it i had 3x willpower x5Necropotence x2 engine and masters destro/resto and im hitting soo damn hard im even thinking of swapping out the 2 engine for x2 kena because the sustain is so nice on magic nb with siphoning attacks

Exactly, this set would help NBs more than sorcerers from now. As it is, Shadow Image is a very strong utility skill and now getting around 5k Magicka from it as an extra buff is going to be huge. Does it come in Jewellery/Weapons now?

hedna123b14_ESO · July 2016

Vercingetorix wrote: »

When the PTS patch goes live, you will be able to get it again in the older Craglorn Trials at 160. Keep in mind the set was nerfed and provides 4000 magicka (instead of 10% magicka). It won't boost your magicka stat up like it used to.

The set was buffed....10% that it currently provides is off of your base magicka. Your base magicka is under 34k. So the amount it currently provides is under 4k. The new necropotence instead provides 4k magicka before the buffs, meaning that 4k is modified by your racials, CP and your skills. For example the difference between 5 Scathing and 5 necropotence with warhorn active was a whopping g 9k magicka.

PURPLE245 · July 2016

susmitds wrote: »

PURPLE245 wrote: »

i made a magic nb on pts and i get 55k max magic with shadow image up love it i had 3x willpower x5Necropotence x2 engine and masters destro/resto and im hitting soo damn hard im even thinking of swapping out the 2 engine for x2 kena because the sustain is so nice on magic nb with siphoning attacks

Exactly, this set would help NBs more than sorcerers from now. As it is, Shadow Image is a very strong utility skill and now getting around 5k Magicka from it as an extra buff is going to be huge. Does it come in Jewellery/Weapons now?

im not too sure on pts there is no jewellery but warlock on the pts does not too so im not too sure im hoping it does have rings/necks will give me more diversity

Rex-Umbra · July 2016

Can this set be bought from the new Cyrodiil town venders as i thought or just trials?