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3 human, 3 elf and 3 other
uric17
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why there are 3 races of human and 3 races of elf and 3 races of other kind?. in DC there are 2 humans and 1 orc, in AD there are 2 elf and a cat, in EP there is 1 human and 1 elf and 1 lizard.. i would like more then that like tauren and a troll and a goblin as playable races.
if you can't beat your foes then join them but if you can't join your foes then call your friends and try to beat them againe.
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Keep_Door✭✭✭✭✭Sounds like you want to play WoW.....
The races and factions are the way they are because thats the lore and thats just how it is.32 -
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✭✭✭✭✭why there are 3 races of human and 3 races of elf and 3 races of other kind?. in DC there are 2 humans and 1 orc, in AD there are 2 elf and a cat, in EP there is 1 human and 1 elf and 1 lizard.. i would like more then that like tauren and a troll and a goblin as playable races.
DC : 1 human, 1 mer (elf)(orcs are mers), 1 halfling (bretons are a crossbreed men/mer)
EP : 1 human, 1 betmer (elven animal race), 1 mer
AD : 2 mer, 1 betmer.
Not enough 100% human races to make it all "equal" or "balanced" ;-)7 -
josefcifkaeb17_ESO✭✭✭✭Orc's are also "elves", they are mer just like altmer, dunmer and bosmer, that's why they are called orsimer.
I doubt they will ever add another beast race as playable to the game as they have never been playable in any other TES game.
Though there are a few more like the monkey people, but they live in Akavir, another continent of Nirn.(つ -‘ _ ‘- )つ ▇ ▅ █ ▅ ▇ ▂ ▃ ▁ ▁ ▅ ▃ ▅ ▅ ▄ ▅ ▇ ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Men: Breton, Imperial, Redguard, Nord
Mer: Altmer, Dunmer, Bosmer, Orsimer
Betmer: Khajiit, Argonian
If anything, we be needing 2 more beast races
WHY ARE THE IMGA GONE?!!!Edited by Tryxus on July 9, 2016 12:16PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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TheDarkoil✭✭✭I would really dislike if they added more races to the elder scrolls series just on a whim.5 -
josefcifkaeb17_ESO✭✭✭✭Men: Breton, Imperial, Redguard, Nord
Mer: Altmer, Dunmer, Bosmer, Orsimer
Betmer: Khajiit, Argonian
If anything, we be needing 2 more beast races
WHY ARE THE IMGA GONE?!!!
Yea, they could bring the Imga to the game. I think they aren't there simply because they never were actually in the game (I think).
But they could be cool even as a playable race:
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josefcifkaeb17_ESO✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.Edited by josefcifkaeb17_ESO on July 9, 2016 12:29PM(つ -‘ _ ‘- )つ ▇ ▅ █ ▅ ▇ ▂ ▃ ▁ ▁ ▅ ▃ ▅ ▅ ▄ ▅ ▇ ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hm... Aren't goblins a form of elves tho, OP? I mean... The whole pointy ears thing has got to do something with elven origins.
Also, I say Elder Scrolls completely kill off anything non-Mer. Just completely make them be wiped out lore-wise due to something. I'm sure Bethesda and ZOS could figure out something. Mer is superior to any and all. Just saying.Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 9, 2016 1:00PM0 -
uric17✭maybe Elder Scrolls 6 will add some game changing playable race to the loreif you can't beat your foes then join them but if you can't join your foes then call your friends and try to beat them againe.0
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✭✭✭✭✭josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
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✭✭✭DC: Pig Children, Half-Breed Slumlords, held together only through the might of an ancient warrior society.
EP: Drunken Slobs, Indentured Servants (occasionally boots), and Dunmer Master Race, leading the way to glory.
AD: Airheaded Fops, Fur-Faced Footpads, and the Spawn of All Tamrielic Monstrosities. (read up on wild hunts)
What's not to love?
(I'm DC through and through, thank god for the adventurers pack.)9 -
seanvwolf✭✭✭✭why there are 3 races of human and 3 races of elf and 3 races of other kind?. in DC there are 2 humans and 1 orc, in AD there are 2 elf and a cat, in EP there is 1 human and 1 elf and 1 lizard.. i would like more then that like tauren and a troll and a goblin as playable races.
DC: 1 man, 1 manmer, 1 beastmer (overall effect, 1.5man|1mer|0.5beast)
AD: 1 mer, 1 merbeast(? lore says bosmer could be mer or could be from khajiit), 1 beast (overall effect, 1.5mer|1.5beast)
EP: 1 man, 1 mer, 1 beast (overall effect, 1man|1mer|1beast)
Trolls and goblins couldn't be played in other Elder Scrolls games so it isn't likely that they would be here as well. Trolls in Tamriel are bipedal beasts like khajiit and argonian, but they have no language or recognizable culture. You can however RP as a goblin, as there is a costume you can obtain which changes your look to that of a goblin.
But no, essentially this isn't Everquest or WoW, so you shouldn't expect those things here. The appeal of ESO is that it is set in the world of the Elder Scrolls, so lore and past gameplay make that a determination here.
I do think there should be added World Skilltrees though, like Wyrd, Mothpriest and Dragonpriest skill lines.Edited by seanvwolf on July 9, 2016 2:18PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭why there are 3 races of human and 3 races of elf and 3 races of other kind?. in DC there are 2 humans and 1 orc, in AD there are 2 elf and a cat, in EP there is 1 human and 1 elf and 1 lizard.. i would like more then that like tauren and a troll and a goblin as playable races.
Ignoring that there are no civilized Minotaur races in Elder Scrolls, and that both goblins and trolls are literally too stupid to use as player characters... seriously, the Altmer sometimes use golbins as shocktroops.
The alliances are based, roughly, on the geography of the setting, which dates back further than Warcraft, ironically enough.
The Covenant has one elf race (the Orcs), one human race, the Redguards from Yokuda, and one half-elf race, the Bretons (who are a mix of the Nedic people and the Aldmer).
The Dominion has two elf races (the Altmer and Bosmer), and the Khajiit.
The Pact has one elf race (the Dunmer, cursed by Azura), one human race, the Nords (descended from the Nedic people), and one beast race (the Argonians.)
Finally, Cyrodiil is home to the Imperials, also descended from the Nedic peoples.2 -
seanvwolf✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
You aren't wrong, @anitajoneb17_ESO ... halfling is used for half blood elfmen. It was also used as a perjorative for Hobbits in Tolkein's work, but halfling does mean half-elf.Edited by seanvwolf on July 9, 2016 2:23PM2 -
seanvwolf✭✭✭✭josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
Halflings is also a term for halfbreeds, @josefcifkaeb17_ESO0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
You aren't wrong, anita... halfling is used for half blood elfmen. It was also used as a perjorative for Hobbits in Tolkein's work, but halfling does mean half-elf.
Bretons are more like: 99% Man, 1% Mer now
They are the human descendants of the Manmer race, who were the halflings in ES lore. But their elven blood has so thinned, they are considered humans"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
You aren't wrong, anita... halfling is used for half blood elfmen. It was also used as a perjorative for Hobbits in Tolkein's work, but halfling does mean half-elf.
Bretons are more like: 99% Man, 1% Mer now
They are the human descendants of the Manmer race, who were the halflings in ES lore. But their elven blood has so thinned, they are considered humans
I want you to test that. Go fire up Skyrim, roll a Breton, steal something, and tell me what the guards call you. Repeat a couple times for variety.1 -
seanvwolf✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
You aren't wrong, anita... halfling is used for half blood elfmen. It was also used as a perjorative for Hobbits in Tolkein's work, but halfling does mean half-elf.
Bretons are more like: 99% Man, 1% Mer now
They are the human descendants of the Manmer race, who were the halflings in ES lore. But their elven blood has so thinned, they are considered humans
While I agree that as a whole, Bretons are more man than mer, individually they come in various amounts of man and mer lineage. Bretons are far more inclined to intermarry with other mer as their lives suit them, so a Breton child born from a mer mother is far more commonplace than say a Nord child born from a mer mother. Wikipedia might say they are a race of men, but the world of Elder Scrolls reacts to Bretons as mer. High elves claim them as their lessers but still mer, and the Nedic races call Bretons mer first and men last when they are caught in war or criminal activity. Only for the purposes of public policy do they begrudgingly accept Bretons as men.2 -
uric17✭lol i said all of those races from world of warcraftif you can't beat your foes then join them but if you can't join your foes then call your friends and try to beat them againe.0
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
You aren't wrong, anita... halfling is used for half blood elfmen. It was also used as a perjorative for Hobbits in Tolkein's work, but halfling does mean half-elf.
Bretons are more like: 99% Man, 1% Mer now
They are the human descendants of the Manmer race, who were the halflings in ES lore. But their elven blood has so thinned, they are considered humans
While I agree that as a whole, Bretons are more man than mer, individually they come in various amounts of man and mer lineage. Bretons are far more inclined to intermarry with other mer as their lives suit them, so a Breton child born from a mer mother is far more commonplace than say a Nord child born from a mer mother. Wikipedia might say they are a race of men, but the world of Elder Scrolls reacts to Bretons as mer. High elves claim them as their lessers but still mer, and the Nedic races call Bretons mer first and men last when they are caught in war or criminal activity. Only for the purposes of public policy do they begrudgingly accept Bretons as men.
Not quite
uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Bretons:_Mongrels_or_Paragons%3F
In order to occupy the High Rock province, the Bretons had apparently distanced themselves from everything elven. It's true that that some families, the noble ones, have move elven blood within them that others. However, the Bretons themselves have become much more Man than Mer, and they consider themselves a race of men.
And also, in Skyrim, Guards don't say anything about Bretons. Then again, I rarely get caught stealing...
Edited by Tryxus on July 9, 2016 2:46PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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I think my Orc got called that once. Never had that happen to any of my Bretons tho, it's mostly just the usual standard dialogue.
Then again, they are Nords... and Guards too. So I guess some of them tend to look down on other racesEdited by Tryxus on July 9, 2016 3:12PM"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭✭✭maybe Elder Scrolls 6 will add some game changing playable race to the lore
Well, if my theory of space Dwemer pans out they could bring all sorts of weird furries back through the Stargate. O_O
They do have Minotaur in TES and now ESO so I guess they could be playable. Or maybe a playable Dremora race? I like the idea of the 2nd one quite a lot. New class included.
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josefcifkaeb17_ESO✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
You aren't wrong, @anitajoneb17_ESO ... halfling is used for half blood elfmen. It was also used as a perjorative for Hobbits in Tolkein's work, but halfling does mean half-elf.
There are no halflings in TES lore. In D&D a halfling is basically a hobbit. Show me where halfling is used for half-breeds apart from forum posts where people got it confused.(つ -‘ _ ‘- )つ ▇ ▅ █ ▅ ▇ ▂ ▃ ▁ ▁ ▅ ▃ ▅ ▅ ▄ ▅ ▇ ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
Bretons are not halflings...
Halfling is not used for half-breeds as far as I know, halflings are small people, like hobbits.
Also, the elven blood is so diluted that they are mostly human, not even a half-breed.
English is not my native language, sry for the vocabulary mistake and thx for correcting it.
As to the rest, I disagree : bretons are not 100% men nor 100% mer, they're a mix. Lore wise. That's what I like in them ;-)
You aren't wrong, anita... halfling is used for half blood elfmen. It was also used as a perjorative for Hobbits in Tolkein's work, but halfling does mean half-elf.
Bretons are more like: 99% Man, 1% Mer now
They are the human descendants of the Manmer race, who were the halflings in ES lore. But their elven blood has so thinned, they are considered humans
While I agree that as a whole, Bretons are more man than mer, individually they come in various amounts of man and mer lineage. Bretons are far more inclined to intermarry with other mer as their lives suit them, so a Breton child born from a mer mother is far more commonplace than say a Nord child born from a mer mother. Wikipedia might say they are a race of men, but the world of Elder Scrolls reacts to Bretons as mer. High elves claim them as their lessers but still mer, and the Nedic races call Bretons mer first and men last when they are caught in war or criminal activity. Only for the purposes of public policy do they begrudgingly accept Bretons as men.
Not quite
uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Bretons:_Mongrels_or_Paragons%3F
In order to occupy the High Rock province, the Bretons had apparently distanced themselves from everything elven. It's true that that some families, the noble ones, have move elven blood within them that others. However, the Bretons themselves have become much more Man than Mer, and they consider themselves a race of men.
And also, in Skyrim, Guards don't say anything about Bretons. Then again, I rarely get caught stealing...
Actually, one of the barks you'll get from Nord guards is, in fact, "filthy little elf!"
It's probably worth pointing out that a lot of the lit in The Elder Scrolls, as a franchise, is inherently, and intentionally (from a worldbuilding perspective) biased. This is a part of how the setting is designed; there's a lot of, very intentional, racism between the different Tamerillic cultures. And the books you'll find along the way reflect that. It's often as informative to look at the author's name and recognize what race they are before you go and read what they wrote about another.
The Elder Scrolls (including ESO) are actually pretty good at discussing racism in a mature way; addressing the tensions and biases that cause it as well as the symptoms and harm it causes.
The Bretons, and how the various cultures regard them is an excellent example of this. The Nords, because of their longstanding conflict and history with various elven races despise the Bretons. This is further spurred on by the fact that High Rock and Skyrim hold a contested border (The Reach), and in times when the Cyrodiilic Empire hasn't maintained control, they've been engaged in minor border wars.
In contrast, while the Redguard and Bretons have a long chain of animosity, their history with the Elves is much less contentious, and as a result, they're more annoyed with the Bretons existing, than their elven history. Excluding the Orsimer, the elven races don't particularly care about the Bretons one way or another. The same is true with Imperials, Khajiit, and Argonians.4
