As a magicka Templar main, I finally admit Radiant Destruction is OP.

Justice31st · July 2016

As a magicka Templar main, I finally admit Radiant Destruction is OP. It is a skill less skill, that I feel bad defending and using on elite players to get an unfair advantage on stamina characters in Cyrodil. As a magicka Templar main since beta, I will finally admit that Radiant Destruction is OP and needs to become dodgeable. Sorry for all the white knight defenses in the past. Please make this game skilled again in a generation Z era. @Wrobel

Eshelmen · July 2016

Eh. I stopped using it as well. It's fun indeed, but I prefer keeping my dignity.

Vaoh · July 2016

Ways to ruin my 1vX:

1) Spam Gap Closer + Snares

2) Jesus Beam from full health so it can deal insane damage when I dip below 50%

NOTE: It currently deals a tick of damage before the skill starts to channel. The moment you click the button, a tick goes off. By the time you see the beam, two ticks have gone off.

You can test this by getting an enemy to very low health (like 5%), then finishing with Jesus Beam. Your character will slightly raise their hand, but no beam will appear and no/little sound either.

Tonnopesce · July 2016

@Justice31st welcome to the club

Didaco · July 2016

Imho they should just cut the range to 15m (which is still a lot) and make it tick 1 sec later, not on activation.
Leave it undodgeable as it is now, roll-bypass skills are much needed curtently.
No, I'm not a templar and never played one.

sirrmattus · July 2016

I think bombard is worst than ro

notimetocare · July 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

I think bombard is worst than ro

And I think pigs can fly, doesn't make it true. Bombard is a snare issue, not a skill issue

GazettE · July 2016

Yes its OP ability and actually you dont have to admit it

BlackEar · July 2016

Well, give it a year and we will see where things are.

Teridaxus · July 2016

The moment its dodgeable, everyone will become a shuffle/roll dodge monkey build.

tennant94 · July 2016

Didaco wrote: »

Imho they should just cut the range to 15m (which is still a lot) and make it tick 1 sec later, not on activation.
Leave it undodgeable as it is now, roll-bypass skills are much needed curtently.
No, I'm not a templar and never played one.

This is what should be done.

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · July 2016

All these nerf topics are really lame...

here's a guy asking to nerf DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/276232/why-the-dk-wings-reflect-needs-to-be-changed/p1

here's a guy asking to nerf every class but DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154416#Comment_3154416

here's a guy asking to nerf NB's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154086#Comment_3154086

Feels like every time someone loses to another class but their own, they go to the forum to cry.
This time it's just inverted...

Next topic will be how bombard is unfair to melee classes.

Why don't you just accept that every class/build has an advantage against a certain different class/build, just as it's weak against another class/build?

The only ideal solution would be everyone having one identical skill and exactly the same conditions for attacking...

Mojmir · July 2016

lol skill is fine.....stilll

datgladiatah · July 2016

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

All these nerf topics are really lame...

here's a guy asking to nerf DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/276232/why-the-dk-wings-reflect-needs-to-be-changed/p1

here's a guy asking to nerf every class but DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154416#Comment_3154416

here's a guy asking to nerf NB's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154086#Comment_3154086

Feels like every time someone loses to another class but their own, they go to the forum to cry.
This time it's just inverted...

Next topic will be how bombard is unfair to melee classes.

Why don't you just accept that every class/build has an advantage against a certain different class/build, just as it's weak against another class/build?

The only ideal solution would be everyone having one identical skill and exactly the same conditions for attacking...

Basically.

There's tons of universal skills that you can use to counter consistent attack types. People look at Deltia's builds and think 'well this should always work if I play like this' and then get face melted by people who can exploit obvious weakpoints. There was already an earlier thread mentioning how easy it is to interrupt this or kill the target mid way. Just don't run away, and don't fight them underneath walls. Simple.

Cinbri · July 2016

Everytime someone discussing how to counter roll-spamming builds answer is - use undodgeable attacks. Now asking about:
1. Nerfing undodgeable attack that play a role of direct counter.
2. Claiming about ''unfair advantage' over stamina builds that are unbeatably fotm for a long time already. According to this logic, pressing one roll-dodge button should grant God Mode and everything that counter it is "unfair".
Do you realize how stupid this thread sounds, OP? It is broken skill, but it doesnt have anything wrong with dodgeability.
P.S.: and I wonder why everyone nowdays adding scripting phrase "I was <insert your class here> since beta". I was templar since birth, did I win something?

GazettE · July 2016

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

All these nerf topics are really lame...

here's a guy asking to nerf DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/276232/why-the-dk-wings-reflect-needs-to-be-changed/p1

here's a guy asking to nerf every class but DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154416#Comment_3154416

here's a guy asking to nerf NB's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154086#Comment_3154086

Feels like every time someone loses to another class but their own, they go to the forum to cry.
This time it's just inverted...

Next topic will be how bombard is unfair to melee classes.

Why don't you just accept that every class/build has an advantage against a certain different class/build, just as it's weak against another class/build?

The only ideal solution would be everyone having one identical skill and exactly the same conditions for attacking...

So basically what you are saying is L2P, yes?

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

I see nothing wrong with it honestly. So it's not dodgeable... So it hits hard... So it's ranged... Well guess what? It can be blocked, it takes time to fully cast as it is a channeling attack, and sure it's ranged but you could always counter it somehow or another. I understand the frustration if multiple Templars all Talos Beam you (yes, I am calling it Talos Beam from now on because technically speaking Talos is Nirn's Jesus, even if it hasn't happened yet in ESO lol) but one beam alone is easy enough to counter. So many ways in fact... You can interrupt the caster, out-heal the damage...

I suppose everyone needs a skill to gripe about though... The real question is what would people gripe about if Zenimax DID nerf the Talos Beam? After all Wrecking Blow got its nerf and then people stopped complaining about it...

Actually_Goku · July 2016

Another one of these? I main a Mag DK just for reference, use a Stam DK in PVP. I have a Templar, for full disclosure, but he's a level 11 Imperial.

Radiant is NOT, an overpowered skill, in a practical sense. Yes, on paper, and statistically, it stacks as probably the best execute in the game.

On the flip side - it is by far the easiest skill in the game to counter. The user is essentially immobile for 3 seconds. In PVP, there's nothing better than someone spamming RD on me - if I'm above 30% health and/or within 30 feet, they might as well pull their breeches down and fart at me. Crit charge, Ambush, Lotus Fan, Javelin, Frags, Toppling Charge, etc etc - all interrupt and stun the user. Cloak breaks RD. The user during the cast time is not able to animation cancel, either.

My best friend mains a magplar, yes, RD is an awesome skill, but if you know what you're doing, it's not a hard counter.

Take into consideration the amount of Stam NB's I've seen in Cyrodiil recently, this becomes even more ridiculous. Cloak, Ambush, Surprise Attack, Surprise Attack and Executioner/Killer's blade and poor old Magplar is dead before he could even spell (pun intended) Radiant.

If anything is OP, it's Surprise Attack. All the Stamspambushers are salty that there's finally a decent magicka skill they're actually able to die off of!

Wollust · July 2016

I love radiant when I am the one using is.
When I am on the receiving end I curse the user with all I can.

Justice31st · July 2016

Wollust wrote: »

I love radiant when I am the one using is.
When I am on the receiving end I curse the user with all I can.

LOL

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · July 2016

GazettE wrote: »

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

All these nerf topics are really lame...

here's a guy asking to nerf DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/276232/why-the-dk-wings-reflect-needs-to-be-changed/p1

here's a guy asking to nerf every class but DK's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154416#Comment_3154416

here's a guy asking to nerf NB's
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3154086#Comment_3154086

Feels like every time someone loses to another class but their own, they go to the forum to cry.
This time it's just inverted...

Next topic will be how bombard is unfair to melee classes.

Why don't you just accept that every class/build has an advantage against a certain different class/build, just as it's weak against another class/build?

The only ideal solution would be everyone having one identical skill and exactly the same conditions for attacking...

So basically what you are saying is L2P, yes?

If that's learn to play, then yes.

Jack_Handey · July 2016

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

The moment its dodgeable, everyone will become a shuffle/roll dodge monkey build.

To late lol

a1i3nz · July 2016

You're a towel

ArchMikem · July 2016

Why do people keep saying skill is an issue? Victory in this game is nothing more than who has the higher numbers. Nothing but Math.

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · July 2016

ArchMikem wrote: »

Why do people keep saying skill is an issue? Victory in this game is nothing more than who has the higher numbers. Nothing but Math.

Yea, except even if you have the highest numbers of them all, but suck at playing your class, you'll just keep dying.

Surak73 · July 2016

It's only a "I-don't-want-to-lose-my-rolling-&-shuffling-godmode" issue. You can interrupt the caster, you can block, you can get out of the line of sight, if you are far away you can simply roll out of range.

Stop crying and L2P.

And how it's fashionable to say today, I'm a dk/sorc/nb since my previous life.

leepalmer95 · July 2016

I was getting hit with a 4k crit beam at full hp yesterday on my mag dk, i had 26k armour and 2500 crit resist.

Any other execute would of hit 2k or less with a crit.

4k crit for an undodgeable skill, scales at 50% and has a 40+ meter range...

Phinix1 · July 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

Destruent · July 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I was getting hit with a 4k crit beam at full hp yesterday on my mag dk, i had 26k armour and 2500 crit resist.

Any other execute would of hit 2k or less with a crit.

4k crit for an undodgeable skill, scales at 50% and has a 40+ meter range...

You know...heavy-attacks can do more, don't cost any magicka and have the same range.

ADarklore · July 2016

You all do realize that Rich Lambert's main is a Magicka Templar, right?!? Somehow I don't see any nerfs incoming.

Solariken · July 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

This is awesome! You win the thread.

Honestly, RD is the least of my worries during this dark time of the Malubeth cheese parade.