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Who's leg do I gotta hump?? No more forcing players to be the hero!

  • altemriel
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    I'm getting tired of playing this goodies two shoes hero that saves the day, and spending most of my time listening to NPC's whine about how they can't solve their problems, and needs a big hero to lighten up their day with crappy pay at the end. I want to play something different and unique.. Instead of factions of each province fighting for domination over a city that looks a giant ***, It should be hero's vs villains.... Mortals vs Daedra. We should be allowed to choose the daedra race to fight against the mortals. We should also get to choose to pick Mortal in supporting the villains (Like the worm Cult).

    I pay 10,000 in crowns just to purchase a DLC that allows me to become a Molag Bal supporter!

    even if I roleplay to generally a good character, being a daedra with all the possible beauties of Oblivion....that sounds good, I would also buy such a dlc
  • Lumenn
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    I mean, if you want to play Fable... play Fable.

    First thought that went through my head was Legacy of Kain series. Not open world compared to today's standards but freaking awesome back then for the "dark" feeling.

  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    This game was not written up with choice in mind like previous TES versions. We can't go around killing any and every npc. There are also not choices to join a hero faction in favor over a villainous one. That's just the game it is. I realize its a bit on the rails, but that's just how its written up. I've actually wanted the option for BOTH. There are some players who are pro-villainy and it seems like they want to do things I can't even state on the forums without breaking TOS. I'm not sure I want hat, but I do wish the choices were clear, but they aren't. In truth Star Wars ToR proably does the whole good/evil choice thing a little better, and frankly that game has a very cartoony understanding of good/evil that comes from the cartoony strange morality of the Sith/Jedi. One thing I'll point out is that the TES 'hero' is generally more often than not a Greco-Roman styled hero, and not what we would say a Chivalrous Knight type of a hero. It comes simply from a different set of virtues extolled. I personally like the idea that we can align ourselves in a multitude of ways but frankly the choices don't matter for much so who cares? We're all just Vestiges, echoes in time of what could have been, or might be.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
    <And plenty more>
  • newtinmpls
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    What is it with people and their problems with being "good"?

    That's your aspiration - being a psychopath?

    No thanks.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    newtinmpls wrote: »
    What is it with people and their problems with being "good"?

    That's your aspiration - being a psychopath?

    No thanks.

    I seriously have problems playing bad guys in video games. A revenge story is fine but just being an a-hole... not my thing.
    Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on July 5, 2016 6:27PM
    P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.
  • Armitas
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    After TG and DB i'm just wondering how I can compete on achievements and remain good aligned.

    Daedra as a playable race? That could be interesting.
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Twilix01
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    Armitas wrote: »
    After TG and DB i'm just wondering how I can compete on achievements and remain good aligned.

    Daedra as a playable race? That could be interesting.

    As I pointed out earlier in the thread, daedra being playable is impossible without a total rewrite of nearly all of the quests and some completely new and daedra-exclusive quests as well. Too much work for what, a max of two races?
  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    newtinmpls wrote: »
    What is it with people and their problems with being "good"?

    That's your aspiration - being a psychopath?

    No thanks.

    Because it's not unique but the same material that's being used over and over again. It gets old after a while, especially having to listen to NPCs whine about how their business is getting ruined because a bunch of trolls/giants came in. Yeah I would like to have a character that is a psychopath, and isn't afraid to display it. I shouldn't have to become a thief or an assassin for the Dark Brotherhood to act out. I shouldn't have to join the fighters guild to intimidate NPCs into submission. Their should be a speech craft that I can invest in my skill points in to vocally abuse NPCs into submission through intimidation.

    While I'm not a huge fan of Grand Theft Auto V's story... I give Rockstar huge credit for allowing me to act out as a psychopathical killer in a video game.

    (cough cough)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8R73tbJtNA
  • Duiwel
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    Mehrunez Dagon supporter here!

    or Sithis

    Allow me to kill every priest, banker, bard and even the leadership of the opposing alliances...

    I will do it for my cause.

    Long live the Skald.... ha just kidding ( -stabs him )

    Long live Queen Ayr- (-stabs her too )

    Imagine a quest where you get to burn down a temple of the divines... and your reward will be a Maelstrom weapon...
    Could you do it?

    :mrgreen:
    @Duiwel:
    Join ORDER OF SITHIS We're recruiting! PC EU

    "Dear Brother. I do not spread rumours. I create them..."
  • SantieClaws
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    Khajiit she is amphibious.

    There is no good or the bad - only circumstances.

    Khajiit will help the people yes but she must be rewarded with coin. This one is no hero. She is a professional yes?

    It is the code of the witcher ... um code of the khajiit ...

    So who is the real monster here khajiit asks? Santie who drinks and does not pay occasionally or the barkeep at the Rosy Lion who waters down the ale - at least one hopes it is the water ...

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws
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    Clan Claws - now recruiting khajiit and like minded others for parties, fishing and other khajiit stuff. Contact this one for an invite.

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    https://www.imperialtradingcompany.eu/
  • Grao
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    I'm getting tired of playing this goodies two shoes hero that saves the day, and spending most of my time listening to NPC's whine about how they can't solve their problems, and needs a big hero to lighten up their day with crappy pay at the end. I want to play something different and unique.. Instead of factions of each province fighting for domination over a city that looks a giant ***, It should be hero's vs villains.... Mortals vs Daedra. We should be allowed to choose the daedra race to fight against the mortals. We should also get to choose to pick Mortal in supporting the villains (Like the worm Cult).

    I pay 10,000 in crowns just to purchase a DLC that allows me to become a Molag Bal supporter!

    Eh, I was about to tell you to go play Fable Legends, but apparently the game got canceled XD
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