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Can we please get rid of the stun for Incapacitating Strike?
Strider_Roshin
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I despise the CC for this move. I will take anything over it (i.e. snare, root, stamina sap, DoT, etc.).
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You despise the CC used against you?
You despise using the CC against other players?
Why don't you like the CC from this Ultimate ability?
Why would you prefer something else?
Your statement is kind of vague.
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on July 4, 2016 7:59PMPS4 NA DC2 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »You despise the CC used against you?
You despise using the CC against other players?
Why don't you like the CC from this Ultimate ability?
Why would you prefer something else?
Your statement is kind of vague.
I'm sorry for being vague. I despise using the CC on other players, and anything will do. Since Soul Harvest increases ultimate gain, how about Incapacitating does something for stamina?0 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well not to be that guy but wouldn't be a problem if CC immunity worked....
P.S. IDK about any one else but are snares stacking ?Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on July 4, 2016 10:20PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DBoS >>> Incap"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭✭✭It is good times when your opponent only knows the one move and you get it one after the other.0 -
RedisSennegathSoul ShrivenI honestly think the issue is more at your side rather than incaps.
The incap CC is a) Dodgeable b) Blockable.
It has a fairly long animation and a sound warning you that its coming.
A lot of times the enemy will counter it unless you CC him before you use incap. And then you miss anyway because of shuffle2 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭RedisSennegath wrote: »I honestly think the issue is more at your side rather than incaps.
The incap CC is a) Dodgeable b) Blockable.
It has a fairly long animation and a sound warning you that its coming.
A lot of times the enemy will counter it unless you CC him before you use incap. And then you miss anyway because of shuffle
I'm complaining because I use the move and I loath the CC. I have no issues being on the receiving end.0 -
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✭You can't call it "Incapacitating Strike" if it doesn't incapacitate.
Sorry, we're bound by semantics here. Has to stay."As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
Have you seen the Twin Lamps?1 -
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✭So you don't want to cc other players? how do you kill people with all the self heals and roll doge going on?0 -
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✭✭✭ShedsHisTail wrote: »You can't call it "Incapacitating Strike" if it doesn't incapacitate.
Sorry, we're bound by semantics here. Has to stay.
Okay but you have to act surprised every time I hit you with Surprise Attack.0 -
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✭✭✭SleepyTroll wrote: »So you don't want to cc other players? how do you kill people with all the self heals and roll doge going on?
I use better CCs.0 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »ShedsHisTail wrote: »You can't call it "Incapacitating Strike" if it doesn't incapacitate.
Sorry, we're bound by semantics here. Has to stay.
Okay but you have to act surprised every time I hit you with Surprise Attack.
Promise."As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
Have you seen the Twin Lamps?0 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I like incapacitating strikes better than dbos. Cheaper, more immediate damage, healing debuff are what I'm looking for on my nb.1 -
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✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »I like incapacitating strikes better than dbos. Cheaper, more immediate damage, healing debuff are what I'm looking for on my nb.
Better than an AoE with CC, DoT and wpn buff, that's undodgeable?
You can get the debuff with a decent glyph and talking about the cost, it is more expensive, but it's not a 200 ult, just 100, quite easy to get for a NB.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »I like incapacitating strikes better than dbos. Cheaper, more immediate damage, healing debuff are what I'm looking for on my nb.
Better than an AoE with CC, DoT and wpn buff, that's undodgeable?
You can get the debuff with a decent glyph and talking about the cost, it is more expensive, but it's not a 200 ult, just 100, quite easy to get for a NB.
They are both good. Players can run both.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
Metemsycosis✭✭✭✭I preferred incap the way it was, a great counter attack when pressured. It seems too strong to me atm. (I use it for siege ganking)Terethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
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✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »I like incapacitating strikes better than dbos. Cheaper, more immediate damage, healing debuff are what I'm looking for on my nb.
Better than an AoE with CC, DoT and wpn buff, that's undodgeable?
You can get the debuff with a decent glyph and talking about the cost, it is more expensive, but it's not a 200 ult, just 100, quite easy to get for a NB.
Dot can be purged. Aoe is nice, but the way i nb is to make sure primary targets die, which up front damage works best for me. For aoe instances iv use tether which imo is better than dbod too. Night blades have great ultimates.
On my Templars and sorcs i use dbos.0 -
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✭I love the CC the reason people hate it is because people use it so often with fear/ambush that it's predictable. I rotate this skill inbetween attacks and ALWAYS get people off guard with it.
Plus it can be a great skill to take pressure of off you, when at low HP hit someone with it and have a Free cc without having to use the very expensive fear.Power Wealth And Influence.0 -
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✭RedisSennegath wrote: »I honestly think the issue is more at your side rather than incaps.
The incap CC is a) Dodgeable b) Blockable.
It has a fairly long animation and a sound warning you that its coming.
A lot of times the enemy will counter it unless you CC him before you use incap. And then you miss anyway because of shuffle
The animation can be cancelled I cancel my soul harvest animation all the time, also once you hear the sound the damage has already been done. I agree with all your other points1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't think the stun is a big issue since Incap is a nightblade skill, and nightblades have fear, which they should use before incap on CC-vulnerable enemies anyway, to prevent the incap from being blocked/rolled, making the stun kinda redundant.Edited by Sharee on July 6, 2016 6:08AM1 -
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✭✭✭I don't think the stun is a big issue since Incap is a nightblade skill, and nightblades have fear, which they should use before incap on CC-vulnerable enemies anyway, to prevent the incap from being blocked/rolled, making the stun kinda redundant.
It's a useless stun in most situations, and for me I use mass hysteria in order to minor maim my opponents. If I see my Incap knock someone down; I'm pissed. The CC is a handicap for me.0 -
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✭✭✭Azor_Ahaii wrote: »Just wondering, can you empower DBoS with mage light?
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✭Stun on incap is the best thing to ever happen to my magblade. Ganking made so much easier....PC - EU
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Only one class has a In class purge and that's Templar.Other magic classes has to use the alliance war purge which is very expensive or deal with the DOT remember shields take DOT damage now.Only Stamplars have a class purge since they removed it from Dark cloak.So again the Dot will more then likely kill you not counting the upfront damage.Which you have to realized that DBOs still do more damage than Incap strike so it be easier to stealth gank people with with DBOS actually you can kill more people faster.Ultimately its personal opinion in this matter.Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »I like incapacitating strikes better than dbos. Cheaper, more immediate damage, healing debuff are what I'm looking for on my nb.
Better than an AoE with CC, DoT and wpn buff, that's undodgeable?
You can get the debuff with a decent glyph and talking about the cost, it is more expensive, but it's not a 200 ult, just 100, quite easy to get for a NB.
Dot can be purged. Aoe is nice, but the way i nb is to make sure primary targets die, which up front damage works best for me. For aoe instances iv use tether which imo is better than dbod too. Night blades have great ultimates.
On my Templars and sorcs i use dbos.0
