What we need is a secondary CP distribution

Bo0137 · July 2016

The most amazing thing ESO allows is the freedom of choices. I mean, my main character has already been a "dark mage", an archer, an assassin, an everything. The class doesn't matter for you in this game.

Right now, I am rolling my nightblade as half-time stamina DPS and half-time stamina Tank. It cost me a lot of skill points, a lot of money and a lot of planning. But it doesn't matter at all. I play as DPS most of the tine, but when I am bored, I simply change my equipment and play as Tanker. And this is amazing!
The purpose of this topic is to sugest one simple thing: dual CP tree. It is a pain in the ass to spend time and money to reroll the CP points every time I want to change my role. If this system comes to ESO, we would be able to set two (or more) different CP trees and choose between then in a simple button. It would be really great and I'm sure a lot of people would love it!

And it doesn't work only for roles changes, but build changes as well!!

What do you think?

Serenityx · July 2016

This would be great. I think it would work great if they implemented a time penalty to this idea similar to how you guest a campaign and pay to change your home campaign. The cost to re-allocate your "main" Champ trees stays 3k but the secondary can only be rolled once every 3 days.

Wollust · July 2016

I think the cost of 3k Gold is low enough anyway and if you want to play two roles you may as well just pay a little. For most content it doesn't even matter much tbh.
What I would like to see is different CP setups to save.
I want to go PvP, select the PvP CP setup and pay the 3k gold and done. Instead of taking the points out and reallocate them. That would be useful. Kinda like Wykydds outfitter.

Soriana · July 2016

What I would like is an add-on that can remember your changes for you; when you want to be a tank, hit switch A, confirm 3K gold, boom=tank. When you want to be DPS, hit switch B, confirm 3K gold, boom=DPS. Would save TONS of time.

Cogo · July 2016

No thank you very much. That's just a wow copy.
How many wow MMO copies live long?

The easier and faster things goes, the faster it gets boring.

rabb1t_ESO · July 2016

Wollust wrote: »

... if you want to play two roles you may as well just pay a little.

For this one, who does all 3 roles, it can make a difference being a hybrid split all the time.

For most content it doesn't even matter much tbh.

It is true. For grouping with friends, or those who know this one is hybrid it doesn't matter.

That being said, Kazyir would greatly prefer a much more meaningful traditional talent point distribution, and be free to swap the talent points much like skills can be swapped. (Say, things like 8-10 champion points now which = +5% of whatever, this one would prefer a single talent point being that +5% whatever and having much fewer champion points.) A restriction of 'can't switch in instances' seems fair, or a 5 minute cool down timer after reset before they can be changed again.

Yes, that would make it like other games, and move away from the form it has in Skyrim, but honestly this one has never been a fan of +1/2 of 1% per click, as it doesn't feel like anything is really changing, or when going up, that one is really making any meaningful progress.

Pomaikai · July 2016

Cogo wrote: »

No thank you very much. That's just a wow copy.
How many wow MMO copies live long?

The easier and faster things goes, the faster it gets boring.

So what you're saying is that wasting 10-15 minutes of my time redistributing CP when I want to change over to a PVP setup, PVE setup, or group raid setup is going to make me want to play longer?

That is like saying rush hour traffic makes me want to go to work more.

That has to be the single most stupid idea that I've ever seen on this forum, and I've seen plenty that have made me want to go outside and slam my head in the car door in order to knock the stupid out. Yours sir, takes the cake.

foodsy · July 2016

Pomaikai wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

No thank you very much. That's just a wow copy.
How many wow MMO copies live long?

The easier and faster things goes, the faster it gets boring.

So what you're saying is that wasting 10-15 minutes of my time redistributing CP when I want to change over to a PVP setup, PVE setup, or group raid setup is going to make me want to play longer?

That is like saying rush hour traffic makes me want to go to work more.

That has to be the single most stupid idea that I've ever seen on this forum, and I've seen plenty that have made me want to go outside and slam my head in the car door in order to knock the stupid out. Yours sir, takes the cake.

Haha. Yea it's abit of a chore, iv just started completing vMSA an I'm sick of changing my cp's from my msa set up then back to my pvp set up. I think there should deffo be a tab button on cp's so I just tap RB (xb1) to go between the 2 set ups.

ADarklore · July 2016

Pomaikai wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

No thank you very much. That's just a wow copy.
How many wow MMO copies live long?

The easier and faster things goes, the faster it gets boring.

So what you're saying is that wasting 10-15 minutes of my time redistributing CP when I want to change over to a PVP setup, PVE setup, or group raid setup is going to make me want to play longer?

That is like saying rush hour traffic makes me want to go to work more.

That has to be the single most stupid idea that I've ever seen on this forum, and I've seen plenty that have made me want to go outside and slam my head in the car door in order to knock the stupid out. Yours sir, takes the cake.

It takes you 15 minutes to reallocate your CP?!? I can probably do it in under a minute. How about writing down your CP allocations which would help you memorize the distribution and make things faster. I only wish they'd make it so we can assign a NUMBER quantity instead of having to +/- through the allocation process.

Flak · July 2016

Yeah that would be great, or even better let us buy a flatrate on all respecs. I have to change my CP s every time when playing Sanctum, vMoL or PvP, very sure I blew at least half a million gold on that.
I wouldn't mind to pay a million for a flatrate, just to have the freedom to change them anytime without feeling like I'm wasting my hard earned gold.

Kalifas · July 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

Pomaikai wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

No thank you very much. That's just a wow copy.
How many wow MMO copies live long?

The easier and faster things goes, the faster it gets boring.

So what you're saying is that wasting 10-15 minutes of my time redistributing CP when I want to change over to a PVP setup, PVE setup, or group raid setup is going to make me want to play longer?

That is like saying rush hour traffic makes me want to go to work more.

That has to be the single most stupid idea that I've ever seen on this forum, and I've seen plenty that have made me want to go outside and slam my head in the car door in order to knock the stupid out. Yours sir, takes the cake.

It takes you 15 minutes to reallocate your CP?!? I can probably do it in under a minute. How about writing down your CP allocations which would help you memorize the distribution and make things faster. I only wish they'd make it so we can assign a NUMBER quantity instead of having to +/- through the allocation process.

It don't matter if it takes 15 minutes or 30 seconds. The more clickies you have to do to set parameters the more tedious a task becomes. The UI for d-pad is partly why the xbox one initial launch got it's butt handed to it by the PS4.

I'd hate to compare XIV to this but I can swap between 20 fricking classes on the fly there with all my hotbars per class in place, all relevant gear equipped, and more.

This game should support something of that nature even more in my opinion due to the each class being able to equip all weapons and armors and interchanging skills.

Fluidity and accessibility shouldn't even be argued here. The argument should be why can you respec over and over, and it not be as streamlined and easy as possible. Making respec tedious doesn't make build swaps anymore permanent or special than they already are.

TLDR:
If you earned your champion points and they are account wide, then easy swapping should be mandatory.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

That is a nice idea actually.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

I can do this without paying for it. It's called "an alt".

Phinix1 · July 2016

Personally, I am in favor of dual-spec CP as well as dual spec skill points.

This game encourages the ability to adapt and fill different roles: PVE vs. PVP, trials vs vMSA, healer vs DPS, tank vs. healer, etc.

Having an option to swap between primary roles isn't "a WoW thing," it's "an RPG thing." Having this just makes sense, and saying "it's too WoW" is like saying enchanting gear is too WoW or having guilds is "too WoW."

Not everything is "too WoW" just because WoW happened to do it. Nor were they even the first.