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Is Gap Closing a Keep cheating?
Lil_Willie
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Is it cheating? I mean you're using an exploit for an advantage so wtf and now people are using that to take keeps in under 30 seconds.
Edited by Lil_Willie on July 4, 2016 6:07PM Is Gap Closing a Keep cheating? 208 votes
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lolo_01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭My personal opinion: Depends on how you do it. If you have a friend on the different alliance who helps you get inside I would consider it cheating. If you get inside because the defenders stand in stupid positions and then don't manage it to kill you or knock you off the wall after you jumped them I would say it's fair gameplay.9 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesIt's not a question, it's literally the rules. If you enter a keep without breaking the walls or doors it's an exploit.
Don't matter what you feel, themselves the rulesTl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.18 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoIt is not a cheat, it's an exploitSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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pcar944✭✭✭✭Noeven though I don't do it, but I see it done all the time, I don't think its cheating
should it be fixed? sureOne Tamriel killed PVP
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesCheat exploit are roughly the same but never a less it needs fixed.
I'll admit to leap onto a ledge once or twice but to immediately jump off cause when you got 7 players spamming frags and siphon you tend to start button mashing.1 -
Morbash✭✭✭✭NoTechnically it's an exploit since it's not an intended mechanic. However, I think the ability to scale keep walls should remain in ESO. Sieging is boring."War doesn't build character; it reveals it."0
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The unenforced rule from ZOS is it's an exploit . However , I've never heard of anyone ever getting even a warning . An unenforced rule is a useless rule .7 -
Cinnamon_Spider✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoIt is now considered a feature.Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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Junipus✭✭✭✭✭YesTechnically an exploit, but doing it on NPCs to get into the inner keep is definitely not sportsmanlike, or unsportsmanlike, or anything other than exploiting.The Legendary Nothing1
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PeggymoeXD✭✭✭✭YesI say yes. But I do it. No logical reason. ZOS won't grow a pair and fix it, so why not do it.
But at the same time, it's easy to not stand on the edge/grate of a keep. At a certain point you can only blame yourself for being the target someone gap closed to. 90% of us know it's an issue that shows no sign of being fixed, so just be aware if you're going to continue to play the game.
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoI think it's situational. If you do it and then take the keep, then it's wrong imo. But if you do it to kill Snipers or those nasty overloading sorcs on the grating(above main gate), I honestly think it's fine.
+ It adds a lot more complexity to sieging. Now the defenders need to worry about not standing too close to the edge etc.
I honestly like it. But not when it's used to take the keep
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✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »It is now considered a feature.
I mean, we told ZOS about this as soon as DB hit PTS, which was around 2 months ago. I'd say that meets the criteria for "feature" status.4 -
Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoAdds more fun, I hope it goes into the category "bug -> can't fix -> it's a feature now".Susano'o
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caeliusstarbreaker✭✭✭✭✭
✭I hope it gets fixed, at the exact time that players come out of keeps to fight instead of siege or plink-plink away with bows/zomgradiantsRhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭That awkward moment when players support a ZOS confirmed exploit, on ZoS's site, and I know nothing will happen.
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FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoForestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
No, Im pretty sure ZOS said on ESO live it is a featured addition to Cyrodiil as grappling hooks.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
No, Im pretty sure ZOS said on ESO live it is a featured addition to Cyrodiil as grappling hooks.
I think what he is referring to was a recent statement from Jessica. She said "Any method used to gain access to a keep without sieging the walls is an exploit." (Wish I knew precisely where it was, so I could link).
Unless you're kidding, in which case lemme grab my climbing gear cause grappling hooks sound sweet.Edited by DocFrost72 on July 4, 2016 10:36PM0 -
CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoIt's only bad when people jump keeps to stealth take keeps, not when you're killing people.1 -
antihero727✭✭✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
No, Im pretty sure ZOS said on ESO live it is a featured addition to Cyrodiil as grappling hooks.
ZOS should shoot an arrow in your knee so you can't jump into keeps.Veldrn-AD Magica Sorc
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Lord-Stien✭✭✭Yes@ZOS_BrianWheeler Is this a fair unintended way to get ino keeps?
or is not a intended way?
Just last week i had 2 guys in guild get a 3 day bann for doing just that...
And yet we see a lot of other people doing it and not getting banned......Sometimes the real enemy are the one who moderate it.
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RocDonald✭✭✭I don't think it's a cheat. Nobody is messing with the coding to do it, so no. But I suppose if you go by the "unwritten rules of conduct", (lol, if such a thing exists) then I suppose utilizing an exploit could be considered "cheating". It probably should get fixed though, kinda defeats the purpose of walls.0 -
Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoPersonally I love doing it and its very fun wish ZOS keep it in the game.Its very entertaining to gap closer on to a group of defenders right at the same time someone hits them with counter siege and DBOS Them at the same time for a wipe.Its best addition to the game.
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesForestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
No, Im pretty sure ZOS said on ESO live it is a featured addition to Cyrodiil as grappling hooks.
No it's a exploit but players like you don't wanna admit it cause you want easy mode and to look good on your streams taking taking keeps with out any one knowing.
Like no offense but are you really that bad at PvP you can't even play it right or not use cheese builds and set and spam skills ?4 -
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✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
No, Im pretty sure ZOS said on ESO live it is a featured addition to Cyrodiil as grappling hooks.
No it's a exploit but players like you don't wanna admit it cause you want easy mode and to look good on your streams taking taking keeps with out any one knowing.
Like no offense but are you really that bad at PvP you can't even play it right or not use cheese builds and set and spam skills ?
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