Maw of the infernal helms for sale for the second week in a row. Zos please look into this.

  • Armitas
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    Armitas wrote: »
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    Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!

    Find a real bug to complain about.
    The entitlement is real.

    Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.

    Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.

    The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.

    You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.

    Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's the nature of RNG.

    Others have been saying that ZOS said the vendor would not repeat. It is a bug.

    Lets put your PvE armor at 1 chance a week with a chance to repeat the same set then, after all it's only RNG.

    We're lucky to have even gotten the monster gear in a PVP vendor in the first place. "My" PVE armor drop rate has nothing to do with your retconned charity vendor doing what RNG does. Don't start the personal attacks unless you're absolutely sure you've exhausted all other arguments.

    What personal attacks are you referring too? It's not a charity vendor, it is the only source of impenetrable for that gear because they took it off the loot table. I have 80 cp 160 monsters sets sitting on my mule (-15 that I cleaned out this morning), you think I need a charity vendor? lol. What I need is impenetrable.

    Edited by Armitas on July 3, 2016 12:19AM
    Retired.
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  • Ampnode
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    Let's also not forget that we've had this set 6 times.
    Edited by Ampnode on July 3, 2016 12:20AM
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  • Solid_Metal
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!

    Find a real bug to complain about.
    The entitlement is real.

    Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.

    Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.

    The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.

    You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.

    Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's the nature of RNG.

    Others have been saying that ZOS said the vendor would not repeat. It is repeating therefore it is a bug.

    is there any source that said monster set vendor will not repeat?
    i google a bit, and it seems its happen couple time already : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266882/regarding-the-monster-helmet-vendor

    thus....its a pure RNGesus will

    Do you have a source that it is supposed to repeat? I didn't hear it, that is what others are reporting.

    its RNG, it can repeat by itself

    the valid question is, is there any source that prove ZoS implement system that anticipated/avoid repeatable item in their RNG system

    but tbh, i dont really care, i can grind for it as long as i care lol
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  • Armitas
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!

    Find a real bug to complain about.
    The entitlement is real.

    Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.

    Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.

    The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.

    You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.

    Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's the nature of RNG.

    Others have been saying that ZOS said the vendor would not repeat. It is repeating therefore it is a bug.

    is there any source that said monster set vendor will not repeat?
    i google a bit, and it seems its happen couple time already : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266882/regarding-the-monster-helmet-vendor

    thus....its a pure RNGesus will

    Do you have a source that it is supposed to repeat? I didn't hear it, that is what others are reporting.

    its RNG, it can repeat by itself

    the valid question is, is there any source that prove ZoS implement system that anticipated/avoid repeatable item in their RNG system

    but tbh, i dont really care, i can grind for it as long as i care lol

    There are many types of RNG. There is no source either way, just what others have said on the forums.

    You can't grind for impenetrable on these. At all. Not Possible. Cannot get. 0 chance. not happening. At all. How many times in this thread must that be said.
    Edited by Armitas on July 3, 2016 12:28AM
    Retired.
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  • RandalMarrs
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    Maybe the magic die has has weight in certain places. Is it RNG if certain items have a greater percentage than others?
  • exeeter702
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    Come on guys the set is nit that bad jeez. Chexk out this parse, the set actually contributes a considerable amount of dps to a rotation in long fights.

    ttps://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

    Im not a min max kind of guy but it looks pretty solid to me.
    Edited by exeeter702 on July 3, 2016 4:36AM
  • chaserstorm16909
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    superZ wrote: »
    This is the problem of rng. No computer can truly create a random order of numbers on its own. That's why shuffle on your ipod seems to like a certain band or album.

    This^
  • Acrolas
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    Don't you
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    important things
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    to worry about in
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    PVP than a vendor?

    signing off
  • Baconfat79
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    Considering that the rotation of possible sets for sale is random, I think we've really been lucky with it so far. Everyone cries when it's something that they don't want, but we've already had Kena, Nerien'eth, and Skoria for sale. It would have been entirely possible for none of those to show up so far. I think we've gotten very lucky with RNG on this vendor. Stop the QQ, please!
  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    Its RANDOM.
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  • Kaspy
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    While this could have been RNG for two pieces of same type, set and trait to appear twice in a row (chance is pretty small), we all know that the cyrodill vendor has been bugged before, so I would not be so fast to simply discard the possibility of another bug. It seems only reasonable to ask that ZOS looks into it.
  • Draxys
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    None of this would be an issue if zos would take the useless traits out of end game loot tables and put impen back in.
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    rip decibel
  • Armitas
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    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Come on guys the set is nit that bad jeez. Chexk out this parse, the set actually contributes a considerable amount of dps to a rotation in long fights.

    ttps://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

    Im not a min max kind of guy but it looks pretty solid to me.

    I tried it out in Cyro last week on an NPC and the actual Daedroth damage didn't seem that bad. It had 4 sources of damage which is more than the TT will tell you. Unfortunately I could never see what that damage looked like in PvP because the thing didn't even proc in a 3 minute fight.
    Edited by Armitas on July 3, 2016 10:00AM
    Retired.
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  • psychotic13
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    It's not the same item for 2 weeks that bothers me, I get that if it's random there's a possibility this could happen.

    But the amount of times in total this set has been in the vendor since the release of the vendor itself is stupid, seriously must be like 50% chance it's Maw every week.
  • newtinmpls
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    I tried to give this set a chance, but it's no good.

    Procs too infrequent and it seems to only happen with enemies that are just about dead.

    I could be wrong, but that's my experience with the set.

    That's just 'cause Dave doesn't like you.

    I'm still working on getting a whole group together.... 4 sorcs, all with two pets each, and then a Maw set..... we could just dance through the dungeons, it would be so awesome!
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  • Shadesofkin
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    I'm a pure PvE player, so it's hard to sympathize, but I admit there are times when I'd like to buy it and I could see how that would be frustrating.
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  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    At this rate I'll never get what I need lol. Bad enough I'm already having to run with a prosperous trait helm because I can't get what I want to drop in the mean time. I want that impen mang!
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  • Armitas
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    Due to the armor penetration in Cyrodiil impenetrable is really the only mitigation that exists. Now that you have removed all sourcing to this we are essentially naked on shoulder and helm until these pieces show up on the golden vendor. Can you please at least fix these sets from repeating?
    Edited by Armitas on July 5, 2016 10:28AM
    Retired.
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  • Cronopoly
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    The most useless set appears the most

    Of course Malubeth is nowhere to be seen... :neutral:
    Edited by Cronopoly on July 5, 2016 11:46AM
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