Should health ratio be buffed?

RAGUNAnoOne · July 2016

Currently almost every aspect of the game discourages health builds especially in PvP. Zenimax knows this hence the 1.1 ratio of health to other resources but I feel it is not high enough to encourage over stam/mag when just as many points more than makes up the difference in damage done. Do you think it needs to be buffed?

Mashille · July 2016

Yes buff it

I think there needs to be more abilities that can scale off Health in some way.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

Yes buff it

Yes, health is way too low. Cyrodiil consists of damage-stacking builds who casually hit 10k+ even if you're wearing full impenetrable gear.

20k Health would be a nice base health for every 160 Champion Rank player.

I also think that the base recovery is too low for 160 Champion Rank. I feel that if a player wants to go an all-out magicka build, they should have a base Stamina recovery of 700 rather than like 500 or whatever it is and vice verse. Health recovery is just so useless, like.. really, but that's another story.

GreenSoup2HoT · July 2016

Other

Sun Shield builds are still pretty good. Doing anything to health would just buff them. I have no idea what could be done to encourage health builds though. I'm not even sure if health builds would even work on anything other then a Templar.

When it come's down to it, it doesn't matter if you have 15k health or 30k health. All it take's is a couple extra skills and your dead. It's the players who know how to dodge and heal that make a difference.

If health granted more resistance, then maybe i could see the health stat being more useful but you would need to re-balance some things to make that work i guess.

NBrookus · July 2016

Other

Health needs to give something other than raw HP. We need health to be a stat that is as beneficial as stam or magicka to get people to invest in it.

KingYogi415 · July 2016

Leave it as is

I wish people would just learn to play the game they have instead of constantly begging for meta-changing nerfs and buffs.

KingYogi415 · July 2016

Leave it as is

This whole thread is also baseless.

I'm assuming you have never seen a blazing shield tank with 60k HP in PVP huh?

But yes, lets buff that...

phaneub17_ESO · July 2016

Leave it as is

Need more health? Stat points can be moved, it's not the game's fault you want to stack 64 stats into magicka/stamina. There are set bonuses that give more health, there are enchants that give more health, there is food that gives more health. Lot of options as long as you're willing to change.

Tekyn · July 2016

So, you can have high health AND high damage output? You have to assign points for a reason... you are *choosing* to sacrifice one for the other. If you think 20k hp is the bare minimum that a 160 CP player should have...then use your points/gear to make sure you have 20k hp.

You don't want to give up the DPS because you think it's necessary.
You don't want to give up the health because you think it's necessary.

You are having so much trouble deciding which of the two is more necessary that you made a thread suggesting they change game code so you can have both... Which actually proves that they are in fact balanced right now, as is.

Burning_Talons · July 2016

Leave it as is

No, if you want health gylph up

Yinmaigao · July 2016

Other

Make ALL shields/defensive skills/block cost etc scale off max health.

Derra · July 2016

Other

Not with the current dmg. People don´t die as is. They don´t need another 5 to 10k hp just because.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

Yes buff it

FYI I have 24k-29k HP in Cyro so I'm fine, and I'm not voting 'Yes' for my own sake, I'm voting 'yes' in general because the base health is just too low overall, simple as... UNLESS you're a Nightblade and you run a glass cannon build, expecting everybody to die in a few hits/one-shot, then you won't agree, of course.

Either that or expect a damage nerf to battle spirit in a few months, you choose...

Korah_Eaglecry · July 2016

KingYogi415 wrote: »

This whole thread is also baseless.

I'm assuming you have never seen a blazing shield tank with 60k HP in PVP huh?

But yes, lets buff that...

Calls the OP baseless, proceeds to provide nothing to back it up other than insults....

RAGUNAnoOne · July 2016

Yes buff it

KingYogi415 wrote: »

This whole thread is also baseless.

I'm assuming you have never seen a blazing shield tank with 60k HP in PVP huh?

But yes, lets buff that...

So you are saying the most underwhelming stat does not deserve attention just because ONE SKILL actually uses it well?

Molag_Crow wrote: »

FYI I have 24k-29k HP in Cyro so I'm fine, and I'm not voting 'Yes' for my own sake, I'm voting 'yes' in general because the base health is just too low overall, simple as... UNLESS you're a Nightblade and you run a glass cannon build, expecting everybody to die in a few hits/one-shot, then you won't agree, of course.

Either that or expect a damage nerf to battle spirit in a few months, you choose...

THIS @Molag_Crow is right here with all the one shot/intense burst going on especially with all the changes and new sets based on that meta TTK is way too low and this issue is what caused the last nerf.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

Yes buff it

What's with all the Blazing Shield arguments when talking about health anyway?

I made a Blazing Shield poll because I miss the old version that us magicka Temps (healers mainly) used, it was fun, sure maybe OP but whatever lol but those days are gone, that skill died for me a long time ago even when I tried it again with 45k HP and reactive armor etc, it was very situational-dependent and 1v1/1vX against smart players (even the not-so-smart players actually) lasted too long and was very anti-climatic.

I've seen one guy using Blazing Shield this week in Cyrodiil and I've spent 2-6 hours a day in there, in the most popular campaign EU, PS4, with hundreds of different players -- so there's probably loads more who I didn't run in to but come on, "Bombplars" are rare and useless. They won't exactly kill you unless you're AFK or try to nuke them while they spam Blazing Shield lol.

Man I even miss permablocking Dragon Knights and I used to die by them plenty of times! why does the fun always get ruined... well, you don't have to answer that..

RAGUNAnoOne · July 2016

Yes buff it

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Need more health? Stat points can be moved, it's not the game's fault you want to stack 64 stats into magicka/stamina. There are set bonuses that give more health, there are enchants that give more health, there is food that gives more health. Lot of options as long as you're willing to change.

I don't stack full whatever and have been nagged at for it, I wear said sets even at least 1 healthy jewery, my favorite item is the red frothgar from orsinium, read my sig.

KingYogi415 · July 2016

Leave it as is

This thread just reeked of people asking to make the game easier for them because they cant make decent a build.

There is a skill level and build choice mean more in this game then most others.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

Yes buff it

KingYogi415 wrote: »

This thread just reeked of people asking to make the game easier for them because they cant make decent a build.

There is a skill level and build choice mean more in this game then most others.

Who asked that? I know I didn't... I'm pleased with my build, kept it the same since DB.

KingYogi415 · July 2016

Leave it as is

Blazing shield templars are just an example of a 1vX health build that puts out dps.

Every class can already easily be a tank.

Giving everyone more health would just dumb down PVE and do nothing PVP.

Molag_Crow · July 2016

Yes buff it

Suppose soooo anyway I'm tired

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