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Maw of the infernal helms for sale for the second week in a row. Zos please look into this.
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Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »what are the odds it would keep popping up so many times?
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superZ✭✭This is the problem of rng. No computer can truly create a random order of numbers on its own. That's why shuffle on your ipod seems to like a certain band or album.
Though to be fair, if the items coming up were perfectly spaced out, that wouldn't truly be random either lol.Edited by superZ on July 2, 2016 2:19PMXBOX 1 NA
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✭✭This Kahjiit gives ZOS and their RNG gods a big thumbs down for this one. Where is my skooma!2 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭chaserstorm16909 wrote: »meh
Edit you title and make it say bug, monster vendor repeating... or something along those lines. Lets get some attention on this because from what people are saying it's not suppose to repeat as it is now.
Also update your OP if you don't mind to inform ZOS of whats up. Need a good solid thread on this to get their attention.Edited by Armitas on July 2, 2016 2:38PMRetired.
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Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭At the very least they should make it so that we cannot get the same gear twice in a row. It's just frustrating for the players to wait a full week only for the same exact piece to show up. I mean it's not just the fact it's from the same set, it was the exact same helm. Not a great system.2 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Moderators. Are there any weekend crew members we can flag about this? Sets only sell on the weekends. Any game masters you could flag?Edited by Armitas on July 2, 2016 3:30PMRetired.
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For magicka Nightblade dps you can go with Kena, or Nerieneth. I don't do much tanking, but if you struggle for resources Engine Guardian can help you. Bloodspawn can give you some extra resistance and increased ultimate generation.
Nightblade is probably my least played class so I'm not a huge help here.PC/EU DC0 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
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umagon✭✭✭✭✭Video games like eso don't have payout rate laws that can apply to them. So theoretically yes they could manipulate the rates to get players to play longer. Which would allow them earn more revenue through dlc and subs. I find it odd myself that when I go to claim awards from the pvp elite vendor the same exact set pieces would keep coming up in a row. Mathematically speaking this would be really rare. But having Alessian gloves happen three or four times in a row on two separate days tells me something is up with the rates.Edited by umagon on July 2, 2016 8:34PM0
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✭✭✭✭✭I would say yes. Random means random and the same thing can be picked again - much like a randomised songlist. Shuffle on the other hand would be different, SNG should be implemented haha.daswahnsinn wrote: »Then RNG system we have here is bad, really bad. The helm is the same but the other two items are different. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Is this supposed to happen with the RNG system?
Pretty much this ...
Someone didn't do their tithing to RNGJeezus this past week.
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Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.Edited by Armitas on July 2, 2016 10:03PMRetired.
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Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.1 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.
You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.Edited by Armitas on July 2, 2016 10:26PMRetired.
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FailSaucePro✭✭✭Oh man, it's like you might actually have to go and farm them like the olden days. How will we ever make it? /s1 -
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✭✭✭✭FailSaucePro wrote: »Oh man, it's like you might actually have to go and farm them like the olden days. How will we ever make it? /s
You can't farm impenetrable monster sets. It only comes from this vendor.Retired.
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Ashtaris✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't know why ZOS doesn't put the Monster Helms in a rotation. That way you can get a pretty good idea of what is going to be available from week-to-week and can plan accordingly. It's not like having it random is going to make everyone login to check it out as I usually just wait until I see it on the forums anyway.
Also, didn't ZOS mention at some point we were going to see the Divine trait on these helm and shoulder pieces? I haven't see a Divine piece yet.1 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.
You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.
Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's not a conspiracy, it's the nature of RNG.
This is the price for having the opportunity to buy helmets outside of the dungeons, impen or not.Edited by Judas Helviaryn on July 3, 2016 12:05AM0 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.
You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.
Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's the nature of RNG.
Others have been saying that ZOS said the vendor would not repeat. It is a bug.
Lets put your PvE armor at 1 chance a week with a chance to repeat the same set then, after all it's only RNG.Edited by Armitas on July 3, 2016 12:09AMRetired.
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DjSolJAH✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.
You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.
Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's not a conspiracy, it's the nature of RNG.
This is the price for having the opportunity to buy helmets outside of the dungeons, impen or not.
Aren't the sets the same on PC and console? If it was truly RNG that would make no sense as they are completely diff serversZee blues are coming!!!! Always.... Always coming...0 -
Solid_Metal✭✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.
You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.
Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's the nature of RNG.
Others have been saying that ZOS said the vendor would not repeat. It is repeating therefore it is a bug.
is there any source that said monster set vendor will not repeat?
i google a bit, and it seems its happen couple time already : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266882/regarding-the-monster-helmet-vendor
thus....its a pure RNGesus will"i will walk through the fog, as i welcome death"1 -
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✭✭✭✭Solid_Metal wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.
You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.
Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's the nature of RNG.
Others have been saying that ZOS said the vendor would not repeat. It is repeating therefore it is a bug.
is there any source that said monster set vendor will not repeat?
i google a bit, and it seems its happen couple time already : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266882/regarding-the-monster-helmet-vendor
thus....its a pure RNGesus will
Do you have a source that it is supposed to repeat? I didn't hear it, that is what others are reporting.Edited by Armitas on July 3, 2016 12:12AMRetired.
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Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »Oh my lord people, get a grip. It's RNG for a reason, there's nobody sitting in ZOS' HQ pushing the weekly monster helm refresh button, there is no cow, tin foil hats all around!
Find a real bug to complain about.
The entitlement is real.
Armor mitigation is nearly 0 in PvP due to penetration. Impenetrable is the only defense out there. How would you like to walk around PvE in 0 armor, and wait once a week for 1 chance at 1 monster piece and then have that piece repeat begin to repeat. Thats what it's like, it is actually a big deal as impenetrable is the only form of defense you can get from gear.
Here's an idea, go farm the piece you're looking for. If its a helm, all you need is a halfway good team. If its a shoulder set, you have better odds with silver and gold keys than you do with the vendor.
The vendor is a convenience, not a replacement for dungeon running.
You can't. Impenetrable has been taken off the loot table other than this vendor. This vendor is the single and only source of these pieces in impenetrable. That is why everyone is outraged. Once a week is all we have at this. This is the second time it's failed since it was taken off the loot table too.
Well I'm sorry, but my point still stands. This isn't a bug, it's the nature of RNG.
Others have been saying that ZOS said the vendor would not repeat. It is a bug.
Lets put your PvE armor at 1 chance a week with a chance to repeat the same set then, after all it's only RNG.
We're lucky to have even gotten the monster gear in a PVP vendor in the first place. "My" PVE armor drop rate has nothing to do with your retconned charity vendor doing what RNG does. Don't start the personal attacks unless you're absolutely sure you've exhausted all other arguments.2
