Lol the 1% racial bonuses made me laugh!!

Bigevilpeter · June 2016

1% bonus XP for Altmers,

1% bonus alliance point gains for Bretons

1% Gold gain for imperials

Why all this generosity??
Now these there races will be extremely OP.

Seriously though not even 5%?? What the freaking heck!!

Wollust · June 2016

1% is better than 0%.

Take it or leave it.

Grao · June 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

1% bonus XP for Altmers,

1% bonus alliance point gains for Bretons

1% Gold gain for imperials

Why all this generosity??
Now these there races will be extremely OP.

Seriously though not even 5%?? What the freaking heck!!

While those are pretty ridiculous I think Bosmers got the shaft harder... 10% less fall damage? Seriously?

Bigevilpeter · June 2016

Wollust wrote: »

1% is better than 0%.

Take it or leave it.

Actually it doesn't make any difference, I barely feel the 10% of ESO+, but 1%??

NeillMcAttack · June 2016

Does anyone know wether or not the Breton AP advantage count towards Cyrodiil Leaderboard. I mean, sure it's not a massive difference, but it's certainly an advantage none the less.

I assume it does not. That would be silly.

negbert · June 2016

It's just a small addition to make up for the skill line passive being useless once you max out that line.

Abeille · June 2016

These races were already on a very good spot. This was just for adding flavor.

Bigevilpeter · June 2016

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Does anyone know wether or not the Breton AP advantage count towards Cyrodiil Leaderboard. I mean, sure it's not a massive difference, but it's certainly an advantage none the less.

I assume it does not. That would be silly.

If it does it doesnt even matter, Im not a breton and I dont care if bretons got 1% more alliance points, its a joke

ADarklore · June 2016

Grao wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

1% bonus XP for Altmers,

1% bonus alliance point gains for Bretons

1% Gold gain for imperials

Why all this generosity??
Now these there races will be extremely OP.

Seriously though not even 5%?? What the freaking heck!!

While those are pretty ridiculous I think Bosmers got the shaft harder... 10% less fall damage? Seriously?

WHY do people keep saying this? Just because YOU don't frequently jump off cliffs don't mean other people don't. PvE questing can be a PITA, so the faster I can jump down off a cliff to reach a road or whatever, the better. The 10% fall damage reduction will actually be a plus for me and how "I" play the game.

Bigevilpeter · June 2016

Abeille wrote: »

These races were already on a very good spot. This was just for adding flavor.

Oh and khajihts were bad??? They got all these buffs even though they were one of the most popular races.

Also making the 1% at least a 5% so it can actually do something wouldnt hurt

DannyLV702 · June 2016

Grao wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

1% bonus XP for Altmers,

1% bonus alliance point gains for Bretons

1% Gold gain for imperials

Why all this generosity??
Now these there races will be extremely OP.

Seriously though not even 5%?? What the freaking heck!!

While those are pretty ridiculous I think Bosmers got the shaft harder... 10% less fall damage? Seriously?

Everything in pvp dies to fall damage so they got the biggest buff tbh

Grao · June 2016

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Does anyone know wether or not the Breton AP advantage count towards Cyrodiil Leaderboard. I mean, sure it's not a massive difference, but it's certainly an advantage none the less.

I assume it does not. That would be silly.

The main developer in this game is @Wrobel , the guy that brought to you such statements as 'Some classes are just better than others' and 'Surge is now more reliable for tanking', thus suggesting Crit tanking is a thing. Do you really think this is too silly for @Wrobel ?

Bigevilpeter · June 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

These races were already on a very good spot. This was just for adding flavor.

Oh and khajihts were bad??? They got all these buffs even though they were one of the most popular races.

Also making the 1% at least a 5% so it can actually do something wouldnt hurt kind of like they gave the khajiht a 5% pickpocket chance?

Wanted to edit, quoted by mistake sorry

Elsonso · June 2016

Race is not supposed to be a win.

1% is not much, but it is better than nothing.

Edit... and as I think about this, I am sure we will see builds with text like "Prefer race X for the bonus to Y" and they will be talking about that 1%.

yodased · June 2016

You have 100hp left, I do 99 damage. You live.

You have 100 hp left I do 100 damage. You dead.

1%. Maths.

Bigevilpeter · June 2016

yodased wrote: »

You have 100hp left, I do 99 damage. You live.

You have 100 hp left I do 100 damage. You dead.

1%. Maths.

And what is the probability of the 1 hp actually mattering? you do the statistics.

Abeille · June 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

These races were already on a very good spot. This was just for adding flavor.

Oh and khajihts were bad??? They got all these buffs even though they were one of the most popular races.

Also making the 1% at least a 5% so it can actually do something wouldnt hurt

The thread wasn't talking about Khajiit. Just because they got an unnecessary bonus it doesn't mean the other "good" races should too. The Khajiit issue is another discussion entirely and I would rather not have even more people crying to nerf my main character (Altmer), thank you. We know this never goes well with Wrobel.

Duiwel · June 2016

15% longer food buff is very important guys...

Zenimax is saying Redguards are too fat and they should eat less so they are making the effect of the eaten food last longer in an attempt to passive aggressively promote their agenda to starve the Redguards!

(the above sentence is complete satire and should not be taken literally without inserting batteries first)

idk · June 2016

Lol. Yes, they were, and are, intended to be token bonuses. As such they need to be small.

Jar_Ek · June 2016

And Argonians still have the passive with the least real impact on gameplay...

Slurg · June 2016

I think all the races should have gotten something with "flavor" like extra swim speed or run speed or reduced fall damage on that passive. Maybe certain types of monsters can fear your race and cower. But not a flat all encompassing gain to XP or AP gains.

bebynnag · June 2016

i was surprised by Bosmer's passive of reduced fall damage...
surley a passive called the green pact that gives them a (temporary) 1% health increase after killing (& eating) their enemies would of been more apt!

Nestor · June 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

WHY do people keep saying this? Just because YOU don't frequently jump off cliffs don't mean other people don't.

There is not a Cliff I can't surf down in this game and land at the bottom with little or no Fall Damage. There are few places where I have to find a way down, but Fall Damage is not a concern in my exploration, ever.

1% AP gains for Bretons? Why is this only Bretons? Do Bretons never get on the Leaderboards? Why is this not a passive in the Alliance skill trees?

15% longer time for food buffs for Redguards? Is running out of food a problem for anyone in the game?

I personally feel that the Racial Balance changes are kind of useless. Certainly nothing I am going to want to change my race over.

So, while there may be some benefit to some players for some of these new passives, they seem to be just something they picked to make us think they added something usefull to the game.

waterfairy · June 2016

2 OP 4 me

rhapsodious · June 2016

Jar_Ek wrote: »

And Argonians still have the passive with the least real impact on gameplay...

You've never used a body of water as a shortcut before? Let me tell you, it's great if you're Argonian. If you're anyone else it's slow as hell oh god why am I doing this mistakes were made.

Marktoneth3 · June 2016

if you can make 4,000,000 AP 1% = 40,000

I don't think It's that huge

Marktoneth3 · June 2016

and imperial pretty pointless

since gold drop from monsters is low AF

Softpad · June 2016

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

if you can make 4,000,000 AP 1% = 40,000

I don't think It's that huge

I think it is for those pushing to try for emp. Hell, even 10k can be make or break sometimes.

AtmaDarkwolf · June 2016

when talking gold, when does 1% become 1 coin? is it around 51 (before bonus) gain. if so, what,beyond bosses, actually drops that much?

Or is it per sale. On that, not much (beyond stolen/pickpocketed) items are worth enough for 1% to mean anything.

or do you mean guild sales. In this sense, 1% can (potentially) be VERY unbalancing, esp if you 'trade' items with another player(swap 100k back and forth and 1% becomes 'something')

really, this 1% gain don't really mean a whole lot.(if anything at all)

Korah_Eaglecry · June 2016

Nestor wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

WHY do people keep saying this? Just because YOU don't frequently jump off cliffs don't mean other people don't.

There is not a Cliff I can't surf down in this game and land at the bottom with little or no Fall Damage. There are few places where I have to find a way down, but Fall Damage is not a concern in my exploration, ever.

1% AP gains for Bretons? Why is this only Bretons? Do Bretons never get on the Leaderboards? Why is this not a passive in the Alliance skill trees?

15% longer time for food buffs for Redguards? Is running out of food a problem for anyone in the game?

I personally feel that the Racial Balance changes are kind of useless. Certainly nothing I am going to want to change my race over.

So, while there may be some benefit to some players for some of these new passives, they seem to be just something they picked to make us think they added something usefull to the game.

Id wager theyre doing this on purpose. We'll complain, as they expect us to about them. And then an update or two from now theyll do some more "rebalancing" to address them. And bam....they have another flux of race change purchases.

Recremen · June 2016

Wollust wrote: »

1% is better than 0%.

Take it or leave it.

I think I'll leave it, no way should Bretons be getting bonus Alliance Points. XP and gold? Sure, those are fine. But Alliance Points actually matter to the PvP community and are a direct buff to leaderboard scoring potential. At least with the other racial bonuses like Max Stam % you need to get a build that takes advantage of it and be good enough to utilize it.