lordrichter wrote: »

Well, back in May I would have answered "Yes!" so that I could subscribe on my PS4 account and not have to pay full rate.

I would have also liked to see a 1 year option for at least the PC so that I could just pay for the entire year and be done with it.

However, since E3, I have come to realize that I am supposed to play for a few weeks, take some time off and play something else for a couple months, then come back when they have had time to add content, remove features, or whatever it is they are planning to do over the next several months.

So, really, I guess I only need a 30 day subscription a couple times per year, if even that much.

Thank you for your explanation. I understand that some players are upset by what has been said during E3.

I voted yes as I see and understand why others would want it, personally I'm happy with month to month as is right now I don't plan renewing my sub till ZOS address the cheaters issue. I know it doesn't affect my game play on PS4 but I just can't justify giving my hard earned money to this company while it lets its cominnity destroy itself with their inaction( or lack of information on said action ). That reason aside I still prefer the month to month option as if another game comes i want try out (fallout 4 as an example) I won't feel obligated to be here or waste money if I move away for few weeks.

senhavran wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Well, back in May I would have answered "Yes!" so that I could subscribe on my PS4 account and not have to pay full rate.

I would have also liked to see a 1 year option for at least the PC so that I could just pay for the entire year and be done with it.

However, since E3, I have come to realize that I am supposed to play for a few weeks, take some time off and play something else for a couple months, then come back when they have had time to add content, remove features, or whatever it is they are planning to do over the next several months.

So, really, I guess I only need a 30 day subscription a couple times per year, if even that much.

Thank you for your explanation. I understand that some players are upset by what has been said during E3.

I am sure some people are, but don't think that I said any of that because I am upset with ZOS. If anything, it has clarified some odd things that they have done over the last couple of months, which has, in turn, allowed me to refine my expectation of where ESO is going.

What I am looking for in a multiplayer RPG game is a rather traditional RPG game that can be more than what the developer envisions it to be. I like to play my own game, and this requires a game designed to be flexible in how it is played. This typically means a lot less hand holding and a lot more freedom in how the game is played. Because I spend so much time doing other things, the game needs to have some headroom so that I don't hit a wall with my characters too quickly. In general, these are traits that are well represented in the PC versions of the Bethesda Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. I can play games like this for hundreds of hours and never even get close to finishing the main quests. In Fallout 4, I am well over level 60 and have not even gotten to the point in the main quest where I have to make that fateful decision about who gets the Commonwealth. ESO isn't Fallout 4 and has a lot more in the way of structure, but it does allow some freedom of play at the moment. In ESO, it took me 2 years to get to VR 16, although I finished the main quest much sooner. I am more interested in the player economy than I am interested in the latest DLC, and this is because it is a lot more rewarding to sell stuff to other players than it is to kill 3 people, or pickpocket 10 items, in some random town. That other player is using the stuff that I sell them for their own purpose, and that trumps any assignment the Guild can give me.

So, when I see Firor say that his players are vacationers that come to ESO, do some content, then leave for a while, I have to put on my game design hat and ask myself what I would do to support those people and make them come back to the game to do that small bit of content. What I see, if they do it right, is a series of changes in the game that really do not benefit me at all, and in some cases, can hurt me. Leveled crafting materials is one place that really kicks me in the jewels, so to speak, but can really do great things to support vacationing players. I would make a lot of the crafting in ESO be more of a "side show" and really work to make it so that vacationing players could focus on playing content without having to spend time with crafting. As a game designer, I would not necessarily depend on the fickle players to provide this, not when I could put systems in place that will do that without the players. Sadly, my current mode of playing ESO is to provide materials to players who don't want to farm them, so anything that ZOS does to streamline vacation farming really does not add to my enjoyment of the game. I am not certain that the more open One Tamriel, which I am a HUGE (big) supporter of, is enough to offset the possibility that the game won't be as much fun for me.

What I see happening here in my crystal ball is the distinct possibility that ZOS and ESO are going in a direction that I am not interested in following, long term. Rather than sticking around and playing ESO on a long term basis, maybe what I need to do is find a new home with another multiplayer RPG game that has the flexibilty to just let me play without corraling me into playing a certain way. In this, I expect that I would simply become the type of player Firor expects and come to ESO while on vacation, and only subscribing to ESO Plus for 30 days so that I can get the DLC and Crafting Bag while I am playing.

Highlighted the TL;DR parts.

hagermanj wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Well, back in May I would have answered "Yes!" so that I could subscribe on my PS4 account and not have to pay full rate.

I would have also liked to see a 1 year option for at least the PC so that I could just pay for the entire year and be done with it.

However, since E3, I have come to realize that I am supposed to play for a few weeks, take some time off and play something else for a couple months, then come back when they have had time to add content, remove features, or whatever it is they are planning to do over the next several months.

So, really, I guess I only need a 30 day subscription a couple times per year, if even that much.

Thank you for your explanation. I understand that some players are upset by what has been said during E3.

I don't understand why people are upset with him saying that. If that is what the data shows, why does it bother you so much?

If you're asking me, it doesn't. I just know that some other players seem quite disappointed by what has been said, can't make everyone happy eh ?

I'd rather they just treated their current subscribers with the respect they deserve... You know, by finding and fixing those 'missing crowns' issues.

Gets tiring having to open up a ticket every month.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

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Eso plus is very buggy on xbox one. Never recieve crowns etc... I'm sure they'd find a way to try and rip us off, after like 2 months of 6 months you'll get a message saying your ESO + has expired.

I really hope this get fixed for XBOX ONE players so they can enjoy the game with what ESO Plus has to offer.

DT05 wrote: »

On ps3/4 I used to buy 60 day timecards for FF14ARR so I think it can be done.

Id just be happy to have my crowns on time, resubbed last week & still havnt got them. I put a ticket in today but ill not hold my breath.

I used to subscribe for 180 days on PS3 and then PS4 for FFXIV, but it was done on a Square Enix website, not on the Playstation Store. Although we can purchase every crown pack from the 750 one to the very discounted one of 5500, so why can't we have the same options for our ESO Plus subscription?

This is really weird, the ESO Plus issue on XBOX ONE I mean, it should have been fixed by now... That could be why we have no other options for our ESO Plus membership, because they're still investigating the problem and don't want to release more days of subscription on both consoles until it is finnaly working as intended. Or it's because it's not a one time purchase but something that can be renewed and Sony/Microsoft stores doesn't support more than 30 days?

The ESO+ issues on XB are precisely the reason I unsubbed.

It would really depend if I would be able to budget the up front cost and would the savings be worth double paying for it while I buffer the cash to spend on it to save a little money. Basically I would want to maintain my current membership while I come up with the money to buy the 180 day sub.

14.99*12 is 179.88
12.99*12 is 155.88

24 dollars in savings

I do not see myself going through the trouble for 24 dollars. I am sure there are plenty of people just sitting on money and this will not be an issue, but my life runs on a budget.