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Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

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Junkogen wrote: »

VE abandoned you for AD. That was a big loss for DC. Once they leave the game for CU, the rivers of banana and blueberry blood will be endless. Muhahahahaha!

Also, DC and AD fight side by side constantly. The green Pact is all too real because a lot of your players play both those factions. #noloyalty

Just stop . Every faction has people that flip flop now . Every faction gets double teamed at some point . The only truth to campaigns is the one with the most players around the clock wins . Many DC players are use to this .

I felt AD was strongly double teamed this campaign, especially with two separate 1k point leads evaporated with DC and EP camping our trikeeps when my guild wasn't online. But hey, happens to everyone.

The winner should be double teamed, Steve. And I know you agree. But last night DC got pwned for hours and hours on end while ep and ad literally ignored one another.

Well yes, EP and DC fighting to not be last now. This is known. Overall though, if we were to count the number of times EP/DC pushed each others trikeeps and scrolls with the number of times they tried it on AD, I think a fairly obvious pattern emerges.

I warned DC leads that the way they were playing would cost them in the long run. There was about 2 weeks where DCs laser focus on AD allowed EP to jump from far last place to second. I went to AD with the intention of pressuring EP and breaking up their Zerg. I didn't start pressuring DC until they left me with no other choice.

I can, of course, only speak to my experience which is limited lately. But last night I led a group and we hard pushed ep all night. Every time we attempted to push Chal, Ad was waiting at Chal gate. Ad was waiting at Chal. Ad was taking DC and interrupting our focus on ep. Eventually the DC in the area and indeed my own men started demanding we shift our focus to ad because of their shenanigans. Perhaps rather than blaming DC you should look inward at the clowns in your own faction.

Again, as of last night AD was fairly secure in first. I'm unsurprised guilds that have been laser focused on map control were taking it easy and looking for stupid fights. I'd advise to not take the final days of the campaign as inductive of the whole. I repeatedly told DC leads to lay off the incessant Roe/Brindle/Trikeep pushes and let me focus EP, and when they wouldn't I spent a solid 10 days doing nothing but focusing DC. EP took this as an open invitation to hit our back keeps, so they had their turn next. DC likely had a shot at winning the campaign, which they wasted by tunnelvisioning AD.

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

VE abandoned you for AD. That was a big loss for DC. Once they leave the game for CU, the rivers of banana and blueberry blood will be endless. Muhahahahaha!

Also, DC and AD fight side by side constantly. The green Pact is all too real because a lot of your players play both those factions. #noloyalty

Just stop . Every faction has people that flip flop now . Every faction gets double teamed at some point . The only truth to campaigns is the one with the most players around the clock wins . Many DC players are use to this .

I felt AD was strongly double teamed this campaign, especially with two separate 1k point leads evaporated with DC and EP camping our trikeeps when my guild wasn't online. But hey, happens to everyone.

The winner should be double teamed, Steve. And I know you agree. But last night DC got pwned for hours and hours on end while ep and ad literally ignored one another.

Well yes, EP and DC fighting to not be last now. This is known. Overall though, if we were to count the number of times EP/DC pushed each others trikeeps and scrolls with the number of times they tried it on AD, I think a fairly obvious pattern emerges.

I warned DC leads that the way they were playing would cost them in the long run. There was about 2 weeks where DCs laser focus on AD allowed EP to jump from far last place to second. I went to AD with the intention of pressuring EP and breaking up their Zerg. I didn't start pressuring DC until they left me with no other choice.

I can, of course, only speak to my experience which is limited lately. But last night I led a group and we hard pushed ep all night. Every time we attempted to push Chal, Ad was waiting at Chal gate. Ad was waiting at Chal. Ad was taking DC and interrupting our focus on ep. Eventually the DC in the area and indeed my own men started demanding we shift our focus to ad because of their shenanigans. Perhaps rather than blaming DC you should look inward at the clowns in your own faction.

Again, as of last night AD was fairly secure in first. I'm unsurprised guilds that have been laser focused on map control were taking it easy and looking for stupid fights. I'd advise to not take the final days of the campaign as inductive of the whole. I repeatedly told DC leads to lay off the incessant Roe/Brindle/Trikeep pushes and let me focus EP, and when they wouldn't I spent a solid 10 days doing nothing but focusing DC. EP took this as an open invitation to hit our back keeps, so they had their turn next. DC likely had a shot at winning the campaign, which they wasted by tunnelvisioning AD.

Try to remember we are dealing with shadowgrabber, who for which English appears a second language and reason and logic appear foreign to him as well.

I speak not of Shadowgrabber

@Zheg

Considering Telel has only been running groups three to eight times a week for two hours at a time they can understand why a lot of the VE might be taking a breather once this campaign comes to a close. This one plays only a fraction as much as most of you lot and even they are warning their pups that they'll be cutting back on groups for at least a week or two.

This campaign has been a whirlwind ride equaled in intensity only by this one's bipolar disorders. Which has proven quite fun, but also exhausting and stressful.

Though this one does not share your confidence in Camelot Unchained to provide a 'vacation home' anytime soon. They also suspect that no amount of cait sith dance parties will prove a match for catgirl werewolves.

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God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

VE abandoned you for AD. That was a big loss for DC. Once they leave the game for CU, the rivers of banana and blueberry blood will be endless. Muhahahahaha!

Also, DC and AD fight side by side constantly. The green Pact is all too real because a lot of your players play both those factions. #noloyalty

Just stop . Every faction has people that flip flop now . Every faction gets double teamed at some point . The only truth to campaigns is the one with the most players around the clock wins . Many DC players are use to this .

I felt AD was strongly double teamed this campaign, especially with two separate 1k point leads evaporated with DC and EP camping our trikeeps when my guild wasn't online. But hey, happens to everyone.

The winner should be double teamed, Steve. And I know you agree. But last night DC got pwned for hours and hours on end while ep and ad literally ignored one another.

Well yes, EP and DC fighting to not be last now. This is known. Overall though, if we were to count the number of times EP/DC pushed each others trikeeps and scrolls with the number of times they tried it on AD, I think a fairly obvious pattern emerges.

I warned DC leads that the way they were playing would cost them in the long run. There was about 2 weeks where DCs laser focus on AD allowed EP to jump from far last place to second. I went to AD with the intention of pressuring EP and breaking up their Zerg. I didn't start pressuring DC until they left me with no other choice.

I can, of course, only speak to my experience which is limited lately. But last night I led a group and we hard pushed ep all night. Every time we attempted to push Chal, Ad was waiting at Chal gate. Ad was waiting at Chal. Ad was taking DC and interrupting our focus on ep. Eventually the DC in the area and indeed my own men started demanding we shift our focus to ad because of their shenanigans. Perhaps rather than blaming DC you should look inward at the clowns in your own faction.

Again, as of last night AD was fairly secure in first. I'm unsurprised guilds that have been laser focused on map control were taking it easy and looking for stupid fights. I'd advise to not take the final days of the campaign as inductive of the whole. I repeatedly told DC leads to lay off the incessant Roe/Brindle/Trikeep pushes and let me focus EP, and when they wouldn't I spent a solid 10 days doing nothing but focusing DC. EP took this as an open invitation to hit our back keeps, so they had their turn next. DC likely had a shot at winning the campaign, which they wasted by tunnelvisioning AD.

Try to remember we are dealing with shadowgrabber, who for which English appears a second language and reason and logic appear foreign to him as well.

Shadowgrabber made pushes down south, but was usually batted off without much effort. Every alliance has a lead that is unruly and takes their group to questionable places. A certain someone on blue went for salt over strategy, pushed AD at the expense of all else to grind an ax, and that was that. I certainly understand the frustration, we all put up with daniel and alma doing similar things, but blue's chance to win was likely squandered for salt. I'd again like to point out the irony of us going yellow in part to force red to fight on two fronts rather than stack every PM raid up at chal all night and only fight blue, and yet we spent a significant portion of the campaign having to pull off of red to beat back blue pushing south. It is what it is, lessons learned, *insert other cliches*, we put in a lot of work and stress to try to win this campaign and are tired - tired of the latest garbage meta, tired of out-of-touch devs, tired of a broken game, and waiting with hopeful optimism that the CU beta comes earlier in the summer than anticipated. I can't remember the last time I was so eager to leave one beta to play another, but when betas stretch from 2014 to 2016 something is clearly wrong.

CU will be further delayed. I am calling it now.

It really seems like they are running into tech issues all the time now. They had to start from scratch on the skill system...

Originally the beta was going to be March, and it hasn't been smooth sailing since then. They really seem strapped for programmers. It all adding up.

The DC/AD salt filled holy war certainly benefited the Ebonheart Pact when we were down 2500 points from first in the middle of the campaign. We were able to catch up within 26 points of AD before slipping back down to third. (We have been making a bit of a comback the last couple days)

Now It seems AD/DC are less tunnel visioned on each other. Though there is still AD and DC guilds I don't see unless I make it to Ash or Roebeck.

Lucky28 wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

VE abandoned you for AD. That was a big loss for DC. Once they leave the game for CU, the rivers of banana and blueberry blood will be endless. Muhahahahaha!

Also, DC and AD fight side by side constantly. The green Pact is all too real because a lot of your players play both those factions. #noloyalty

Just stop . Every faction has people that flip flop now . Every faction gets double teamed at some point . The only truth to campaigns is the one with the most players around the clock wins . Many DC players are use to this .

I felt AD was strongly double teamed this campaign, especially with two separate 1k point leads evaporated with DC and EP camping our trikeeps when my guild wasn't online. But hey, happens to everyone.

The winner should be double teamed, Steve. And I know you agree. But last night DC got pwned for hours and hours on end while ep and ad literally ignored one another.

Well yes, EP and DC fighting to not be last now. This is known. Overall though, if we were to count the number of times EP/DC pushed each others trikeeps and scrolls with the number of times they tried it on AD, I think a fairly obvious pattern emerges.

I warned DC leads that the way they were playing would cost them in the long run. There was about 2 weeks where DCs laser focus on AD allowed EP to jump from far last place to second. I went to AD with the intention of pressuring EP and breaking up their Zerg. I didn't start pressuring DC until they left me with no other choice.

It's rather unfortunate that DC listened to you otherwise they would have won the campaign. when EP was far behind in the score they where trying to get DC into first. that changed when DC stopped cooperating.

Illuminati confirmed?

God_flakes wrote: »

Fruitdog wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

VE abandoned you for AD. That was a big loss for DC. Once they leave the game for CU, the rivers of banana and blueberry blood will be endless. Muhahahahaha!

Also, DC and AD fight side by side constantly. The green Pact is all too real because a lot of your players play both those factions. #noloyalty

Just stop . Every faction has people that flip flop now . Every faction gets double teamed at some point . The only truth to campaigns is the one with the most players around the clock wins . Many DC players are use to this .

I felt AD was strongly double teamed this campaign, especially with two separate 1k point leads evaporated with DC and EP camping our trikeeps when my guild wasn't online. But hey, happens to everyone.

The winner should be double teamed, Steve. And I know you agree. But last night DC got pwned for hours and hours on end while ep and ad literally ignored one another.

Well yes, EP and DC fighting to not be last now. This is known. Overall though, if we were to count the number of times EP/DC pushed each others trikeeps and scrolls with the number of times they tried it on AD, I think a fairly obvious pattern emerges.

I warned DC leads that the way they were playing would cost them in the long run. There was about 2 weeks where DCs laser focus on AD allowed EP to jump from far last place to second. I went to AD with the intention of pressuring EP and breaking up their Zerg. I didn't start pressuring DC until they left me with no other choice.

I can, of course, only speak to my experience which is limited lately. But last night I led a group and we hard pushed ep all night. Every time we attempted to push Chal, Ad was waiting at Chal gate. Ad was waiting at Chal. Ad was taking DC and interrupting our focus on ep. Eventually the DC in the area and indeed my own men started demanding we shift our focus to ad because of their shenanigans. Perhaps rather than blaming DC you should look inward at the clowns in your own faction.

Again, as of last night AD was fairly secure in first. I'm unsurprised guilds that have been laser focused on map control were taking it easy and looking for stupid fights. I'd advise to not take the final days of the campaign as inductive of the whole. I repeatedly told DC leads to lay off the incessant Roe/Brindle/Trikeep pushes and let me focus EP, and when they wouldn't I spent a solid 10 days doing nothing but focusing DC. EP took this as an open invitation to hit our back keeps, so they had their turn next. DC likely had a shot at winning the campaign, which they wasted by tunnelvisioning AD.

Try to remember we are dealing with shadowgrabber, who for which English appears a second language and reason and logic appear foreign to him as well.

He makes damage!

Actually, he makes dahmahge.

F U I HATE GUILD

I just enjoy points of all kinds

Satiar wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

VE abandoned you for AD. That was a big loss for DC. Once they leave the game for CU, the rivers of banana and blueberry blood will be endless. Muhahahahaha!

Also, DC and AD fight side by side constantly. The green Pact is all too real because a lot of your players play both those factions. #noloyalty

Just stop . Every faction has people that flip flop now . Every faction gets double teamed at some point . The only truth to campaigns is the one with the most players around the clock wins . Many DC players are use to this .

I felt AD was strongly double teamed this campaign, especially with two separate 1k point leads evaporated with DC and EP camping our trikeeps when my guild wasn't online. But hey, happens to everyone.

The winner should be double teamed, Steve. And I know you agree. But last night DC got pwned for hours and hours on end while ep and ad literally ignored one another.

Well yes, EP and DC fighting to not be last now. This is known. Overall though, if we were to count the number of times EP/DC pushed each others trikeeps and scrolls with the number of times they tried it on AD, I think a fairly obvious pattern emerges.

I warned DC leads that the way they were playing would cost them in the long run. There was about 2 weeks where DCs laser focus on AD allowed EP to jump from far last place to second. I went to AD with the intention of pressuring EP and breaking up their Zerg. I didn't start pressuring DC until they left me with no other choice.

It's rather unfortunate that DC listened to you otherwise they would have won the campaign. when EP was far behind in the score they where trying to get DC into first. that changed when DC stopped cooperating.

Nah. What actually happened is I stopped doing anything but pressuring DC. Once we started that we closed 350 points in one night and spent the next week camping ash and pressuring Glade/Rayles/Aleswell. Again, not my preference but DC kinda asked for it by pushing All the way to my east gates every time I went to fight a red megazerg.

This is Telel's experience with DC as well, and anyone going back through threads like this can easily see it as a recurring theme.

The dramaflawed coverlet seems quite quick to say that innocent khajiit are guilt of things, and they just wish to be left alone to eat glue in peace but the reality of it is most different.

Everytime Telel's pack starts running we have to keep an eye on the west because we know that Brindle is going to be attacked by 20 people the moment most of the dumbminion is on a lemming run to BRK.

If the daggets have Nikel there will be a constant stream of blues running to the farm at Roebeck, and then hiding just outside the front gate to mow down anyone foolish enough to walk out there on their own. If they aren't fed a constant stream of easily mugged newbs then they'll siege and take the keep if it's empty.

From there it'll be black boot, and by this time Red will also be hitting Blood Mayne and Faregyl in a move that many opponents assure khajiit is merely coincidental. Especially since it seems to happen at very specific periods almost every evening.

So yeah..in between running amok in the pact's flanks or trying to run down the 'pro' pacters who live to sit inside towers Telel and their pack are always having to shuffle back to the west side to cut off yet another attempt to take an empty keep or outpost.

And once that 'not purple' momentum gets going (usually at about 4 am) and the dumbminion is pinned at its gates.....well let us say this one thinks it odd that you need that many people to kill one person riding out of a gate.

So, hit them hard, hit them often, and hit them so they're going backwards is how this one and their pups do it when the daggets need to have some points shaved. Otherwise they get a bit to bold and 'not purple' happens.

But don't worry. It seems both VE and COH will be winding down our respective operations to more succint levels this cycle. That'll mean the bloops and Griffs willl only need to deal with organized guild groups of more than six people maybe two hours a day out of twenty four instead of a full six.

This one hopes those complaining about having to fight organized opponents shall thank a khajiit for being so sporting and giving them a chance.