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POLL: Would you like to have a close combat Magical weapon?

KingDuncanVII
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I, for one, would like to have a close combat weapon for Magicka users as all Magicka players aren't your stereotypical "mages" that must wield staves. I'd even like to be able to create a glyph for my stamina-based weapon that turns it into a Magicka-based weapon (Dealing Spell Damage and Restoring Magicka). What do you think?
Edited by KingDuncanVII on June 27, 2016 3:58PM
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POLL: Would you like to have a close combat Magical weapon? 209 votes

Yes!
67%
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Unsure
8%
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No! (Explain...)
17%
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I have a different solution! (Explain...)
6%
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  • FloppyFrank
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    Yes!
    When I first started I wanted to be a spellsword like I was in Skyrim. But noo, I"ll go *** myself
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  • Ravinsild
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    Yes!
    Yeah I'm down for more variety and interesting playstyles.
  • Sentinel
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    I have a different solution! (Explain...)
    In addition, also be able to change staves into melee weapons.
    See Morrowind: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Base_Weapons#2-Hand_Wide

    The staff is the standard informal weapon of the traveler, doubling as walking stick and utility tools. Battlemages, spellsword, nightblades, and other magical support troops in the Legions also train with the staff, among other blunt weapons.

    You know, if they ever get around to it, they could make a system where tools are able to be amplified into being magickal, all weapon types having a base stamina variant being able to change into a base magicka variant. Something to consider. (would take quite a bit of work)
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    I have a different solution! (Explain...)
    I'd prefer to see something sililar to what lore masters had in lotro. Being able to use your staff to physicaly hit your enemies if they came to close. Later on you could get a skill that allowed you to dual wield a staff and a sword for more awesomeness.
  • reclaimervii.sierra117ub17_ESO
    It's called jabs :^()
  • Whatzituyah
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    No! (Explain...)
    I had a thread suggesting about bound weapons that scaled off of magicka and was told no so you are too. :trollface:
  • Nestor
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    Unsure
    I can use my Staff for Close Up and Ranged fights.

    Do I wish there was something else we could use as a stick, sure, but what would it be? A Wand? A bunch of feathers that sprinkle magic dust over the enemies? OK, the last one was a joke.

    Maybe we could hold a Lens or some other type of Focus device and spew out the magic that way. A little arm waving animation for the Light and Heavy Attacks and that could work.
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  • Van_0S
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    Yes!
    This should be added in mage skill line (Spell sword)
  • Abeille
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    Yes!
    Bound weapons. I don't care if they have to be crafted because of balance, I can just pretend they are summoned.
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  • Van_0S
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    Yes!
    It's called jabs :^()

    You miss understood what OP is saying.
    He want the weapon damage of sword ( heavy attack and light attack) to do spell damage.
    Edited by Van_0S on June 27, 2016 4:33PM
  • Armitas
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    Yes!
    Magickal maces. My mDK would appreciate this since my magicka damagers are melee range.

    If you wanted to do it easily you could even just make maces do magic damage in the sword and board line.
    Edited by Armitas on June 27, 2016 4:45PM
    Retired.
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  • Aemon_Isklexi
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    Yes!
    I'm for it (or another solution). Battlemages have been a thing in Elder Scrolls lore the entire time, but you can't really use a melee weapon as a magicka character in ESO because of how the mechanics work. Plenty of magicka characters use dual wield for the higher spell damage stat, but they never actually hit anything with the swords.
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  • Bromburak
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    No! (Explain...)
    No, I hate faking physical weapon skills in ESO no matter if Templar Spear or crossbow of Fighters guild etc..
    I am ok when others like to play that way but this crap is nothing for me.

    Imo the Templar is the best example how you DON'T design a class line, they could have added a real spear line instead.
    Just quit faking weapons imo it's silly.



    Edited by Bromburak on June 27, 2016 6:58PM
  • ethanthefox
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    No! (Explain...)
    I think its good having difference between stam & magic
  • DocFrost72
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    Maybe a tree called bound weapons?
  • nimander99
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    Yes!
    Used to be daggers on mages in the Scrolls games... In fact I just killed a mage running around Skyrim (the game) yesterday, and low and behold the plucky ninja mage had black robes and a dagger on him ;)

    But he did only use when he ran out of magika and I was bashing his face with my shield... So he was kinda outta options at that point. So YEAH close range mage weapons! Bring em on, and I'll do the same thing to you in Cyrodiil I did to that mage last night :D
    Edited by nimander99 on June 27, 2016 7:01PM
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  • mistermutiny89
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    Yes!
    Dual wield spectral daggers doing basic magic damage matching that of dual wield stamina please.
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  • Psyonico
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    I'm for it, more diversity is always a good thing.

    I'd also like to see 1 handed magical weapons, would be good for magical tanks or just to be able to get the 1 extra set piece opportunity.
  • TheDarkoil
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    You can create a weapon glyph which deals magicka damage + restores magicka, can you only place them on staves?
  • dsalter
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    Yes!
    Just add weapons similar to some of Morrowinds ones where they were clearly made for casters in mind.
    i mean we can already semi make magicka based melee weapons now we just need a skill line that translates the weapons into magicka based.
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  • bryanhaas
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    Yes!
    I just want swords that use your magic pool and spell damage much like staffs do.
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  • idk
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    No! (Explain...)
    No one has properly explained a close combat magical weapon that isn't really a physical weapon and behaves as a physical weapon.


    As such, No cause it's pointless.
  • Moonscythe
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    Yes!
    I voted yes, because I like flexibility and in other Elder Scrolls a mage running out of magic and going for a dagger just seemed lame. I, personally, try to maximize my magic and fling fireballs down throats if someone gets too close but usually I just whack them with my fire staff and throw them into next week (or off the mountain). That's close range combat with my staff so long as I pay attention to my magic supply.
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  • KingDuncanVII
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  • Animal_Mother
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    I have a different solution! (Explain...)
    I want to see appropriate damage from staves under stealth. If that means a close range weapon, so be it. But when I ran stam, I could two or three shot any open world mob by opening with a stealth heavy attack. Can't do that as mag with staff.
  • BlackguardBob
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    No! (Explain...)
    (Pokes tongue firmly in cheek)

    No because I believe that only magicians should cast spells and use magicka. The rest of you non-mages should be using weapons, armour and defence tactics based on prowess, athleticism and combat skills.

    Us mages are spell casters that use wands or staffs in the traditional way and remain squishy so distance fighting is a prerequisite.

    Vice la difference! :wink:
  • waterfairy
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    I have a different solution! (Explain...)
    I'd rather our "weapon" be hand magic that would either have visual fire, frost, or lightning depending on the enchantment (gloves can be used for the weapon slot). Think of overload but as a weapon and each element, light attacks shoot elemental balls and heavy would be a stream of the element.
  • saps101
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    I have a different solution! (Explain...)
    The staves are all well and good, but they forgot the obvious addition. The staff.

    As metal interferes with magika, why not put in a traditional staff line, mages love wooden staffs, and you can use brute strength, or use magika to buff up your attacks, like a true battle mage. Give it access to a straight damage, a gap close, a knock back/uppercut, an execute and something else. A slightly extended range compared to dual wield/S&B (possible passive).

    You could even have a stam and magika morphs, really easily.

    Light attacks could be quick strikes and heavy attacks slower sweeps.

    1st ability
    Magika empowered bash that restores health on hit + minor magika buff (chest height jab)
    Stamp morph the same but with a disorient. (kinda like bash or something)

    2nd ability
    A standard gap close,
    Magika charged dash to a target. (like streak, but to a target)
    Stamina based charge ability.

    3rd ability
    Magika based smack across ribs/stomach, small stun
    Stamina based uppercut with the end of the staff, brute strength for a knock back.

    An execute
    Magika based strike down the face
    Stamina based smack across the face.

    Possibly a buff skill for the 5th ability, such a defensive ability (think Gandalf)
    Magika based small resist increase and chance to ignore magical projectiles
    Stamina based decreased block cost and chance to ignore arrows

    Passives should be mostly defensive with a bit of offense as a staff is mainly a defensive weapon.

    Increased range by 1-2 metres.
    Splash damage on heavy attacks
    Increased block amount
    Standard ability cost reduction
    Bash damage increase

    There you go, another weapon that could easily be true to cannon and physics, allows for stamina and magika use, gives defensive players an alternate to S&B, fits the idea of a mage properly and could look awesome.


    Feel free to use and abuse my idea, a normal, close range staff would be cool, so would a weapon that could benefit magika and stamina users.
    Edited by saps101 on June 27, 2016 11:56PM
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  • Sylveria_Relden
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    What's the alternative being offered to Stamina-based classes then, if you were to get what you wish? If you're going to offer a proposal- offer a solution that benefits everyone, not just your own.

    You don't want to spec in Stamina-based weapons, yet want the benefits of Stamina-based weapons AND to be able to cast spells, too.

    This is the reason you're forced to choose between Stamina/Magicka or a combination of the two when you choose attributes- if you're strong in one, you're weak in the other, or you can do both but be mediocre in both.

    Funny how Magicka based characters want their cake and to eat it, too.
    TL;DR - If you got this far without reading the entire post you're either too lazy or suck at reading comprehension and probably don't belong in a public forum anyway. Just move along, you wouldn't understand.
  • Sylveria_Relden
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    As an addendum to my previous comment- how about Zenimax including a "Costume" choice for WEAPONS in the Crown Store?

    Then you'd be able to continue to use your staves functionally- but have the weapon "appear" as something else?

    Would this satisfy the need?
    TL;DR - If you got this far without reading the entire post you're either too lazy or suck at reading comprehension and probably don't belong in a public forum anyway. Just move along, you wouldn't understand.
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