FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

TheHsN wrote: »

yeah exactly...

sorcerer needs,

-their shields back

-their execute is the worst and weakest in the game it need to be fixed

-they dont have their DPS SPAM skill SUCH AS" NB : swallow soul , TEMP: Jabs . DK : Whip... we only have force pulse and it is to weak and exepensive skill....

- Power surge is almost useless now...

<b>Our best shot is CYRSTAL FRAGS BUT: it is not spamable and it is too slow till it hits to player... every body can dodge it and if SHUFFLE is open it is almost impossible to hit with it to player...</b>


so yes pls help us here to fix to sorcerer ..it was a great class now it is weakest and the best boring class to play...

It might as well be spammable at the rate it procs. I like the travel time and how obvious it is, it takes some skill to time it correctly; waiting till your opponent rolls cos they heard your frags squeak. I like to streak up close to them and thump it into them at melee range. Complain about surge or resources by all means, but don't complain about shields or frags cos they're still really strong. Our execute was fixed btw; it now procs at 20%, and becasue I was so used to 18% it now feels more like 25%, I love it. We don't need a spammable skill btw.

35% rate is spammable in what universe? I understand you get on lucky streaks, for for each of those there's a 'frags desert' of ten casts or so with no proc.

I sort of agree with you on wrath, but a spammable DPS skill would let people carry axes and knives if they feel like it. It if makes people happy and look cool, why not? It doesn't even have to be better than force pulse, and most of us are using that anyways. I don't really care, as I'll stick with FP thanks.

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

TheHsN wrote: »

yeah exactly...

sorcerer needs,

-their shields back

-their execute is the worst and weakest in the game it need to be fixed

-they dont have their DPS SPAM skill SUCH AS" NB : swallow soul , TEMP: Jabs . DK : Whip... we only have force pulse and it is to weak and exepensive skill....

- Power surge is almost useless now...

<b>Our best shot is CYRSTAL FRAGS BUT: it is not spamable and it is too slow till it hits to player... every body can dodge it and if SHUFFLE is open it is almost impossible to hit with it to player...</b>


so yes pls help us here to fix to sorcerer ..it was a great class now it is weakest and the best boring class to play...

It might as well be spammable at the rate it procs. I like the travel time and how obvious it is, it takes some skill to time it correctly; waiting till your opponent rolls cos they heard your frags squeak. I like to streak up close to them and thump it into them at melee range. Complain about surge or resources by all means, but don't complain about shields or frags cos they're still really strong. Our execute was fixed btw; it now procs at 20%, and becasue I was so used to 18% it now feels more like 25%, I love it. We don't need a spammable skill btw.

35% rate is spammable in what universe? I understand you get on lucky streaks, for for each of those there's a 'frags desert' of ten casts or so with no proc.

I sort of agree with you on wrath, but a spammable DPS skill would let people carry axes and knives if they feel like it. It if makes people happy and look cool, why not? It doesn't even have to be better than force pulse, and most of us are using that anyways. I don't really care, as I'll stick with FP thanks.

But carrying 2 melee weapons gives you about 500 more spell damage, so it wouldn't just be to look cool would it? 500 more spell damage and a spammable dps skill and strong burst?

edit cos I forgot how to use bb code

That's kind of a broken passive on dual wield, it's supposed to increase weapon damage and then only by 5% (which should only be 150 or so spell damage).

The biggest reason is opening up two different five piece set bonuses, which every class can do EXCEPT for ours.

And like I said, I don't care enough about it to argue with you. I'm fine with it where it is, but if some people want to use their two swords of vicious death (they exist), then they should be able to.

ReeKs wrote: »

I've been a sorc since the beginning, major difference from then to now.

We need our shields back, it's not fair that every other class has theirs own unique thing about their class but us sorcs gets punished coz we can cast shields.

1. WE WEAR LIGHT ARMOR, we could potentially be killed with one hit if we didn't have shields.

2. People complain about sorcs being overpowered yet there's nightblades running around cyrodiil cloaking with the ability to cloak in the heat of combat and stay hidden until you either get bored of lookin for them or they gank you when their backup arrives, not only that but they can still snipe whilst cloaked, imo that needs to be looked at.

3. Every class has shields and/or access to shields. Us sorcs are supposed to have the best shield compared to the other classes.

4. Everyone complains about sorcs but not Templars that are currently running around a cyrodiil being able to heal from 1% to 100% with one button the carries on tanking 20 players with ease same goes for dragonkights

I'm not complaining about it but before dragging sorcs for using their class skills how about you actual good discussions about making eso more balanced instead crying to ZOS about sorcs using shields resulting in sorcs being punished (as always).

I also main a Magicka Sorc since (PS4) launch. Agree with what you said except one thing.

Sorcs aren't really complained about anymore

Our class has been screwed so hard recently and overtime that the nerf spotlight has been extremely odd lately.

• Dragonknights are just kinda there atm. Some say they are OP, and though very tanky, are mostly left alone (besides calls for Mag DK buffs). They are probably around 90%/10% in terms of Stam/Mag population in my experience, and that's generous.

• Nightblade encompasses ~70% of Stam builds running in PvP, so we can't balance them or the crying would be immense. Unfortunately they are too well rounded and easy to play efficiently because of their crazy burst damage. A few of their CCs are also buggy and Incap Strike is insane. Magicka Nightblades are never really pointed at for nerfs anymore because they are so uncommon and Stamina is superior this patch (NBs rerolled Stam).

• Templars..... I don't need to specify why they're OP atm. You have to be either be a diehard pro-Templar player, someone who thrives on using broken sets/exploits/OP stuff while it's possible, or highly inexperienced in Cyrodiil combat to say they are totally balanced right now. Nerfs have been called for them, but is not as nearly prevalent as nerf calls usually are because they slowly became OP overtime. It creeped up! Now 90% of Magicka classes in PvP are Magicka Templar, and those who aren't running them I often see grinding alts in the Sewers. That only happens when a class is meta and OP. They are EVERYWHERE! Had they not been OP, Cyrodiil would literally be 1 Magicka build for every 5+ Stamina builds.

• Sorcs have been the go-to class to nerf for awhile and for very good reason. However, even diehard nerf shouters have started to see how identity-less Sorcs are now. Spam shields and stand there? Bolt Escape away? Mobility or tankiness? What am I supposed to use!? In the past they became the meta class spec and were easy to play, hence Magicka Sorcs were everywhere. Now they are both really rare and terrible 95% of the time. Those 5% of strong Magicka Sorcs are the players who would perform significantly better on any other class. Sorcs need buffs in the form of re-evaluating past nerfs, and for the most part looking at significant buffs to Pets/ reworking some toggles.

Shields were nerfed, should I be healing more now? Well my burst heal (Surge) just became a HoT that sucks in PvP.... so how can I do this when I just stacked so many points in Bastion? No, I need to shield up because that's how Magicka Sorcs are played and I invested into Bastion. Like a Stamina class and Vigor, I use Shields.

But now Magicka costs are increased, my duration is ruined, and it takes ~1 shield to cover an average Stam direct damage ability from a good player since Stam damage is so high this patch.

I guess I'll use Bolt Escape to evade them! Wait... there's a stacking cost increase It's too bad cost increases make it so 3 consecutive Bolt Escapes reach the danger zone of Magicka costs thanks to the stacking costs and burns tons of Magicka. 4 or more casts utterly ruins my Magicka pool and I'm basically dead if I do that. It also no longer carries any momentum, so if cast on anything but perfectly flat ground, I come to a total stop until I fall to the floor's surface losing any distance I gained.

Personally, I can deal with the shield nerf pretty fine. Biggest issue is I loved to cast my shields and then use the Pray emote but am no longer safe if I am not shielded. Stamblades are literally everywhere

Another issue is that I don't want to conform to the one extremely pidgeonholed Magicka Sorcerer build using Destro/Restro left. I continue to main a DW Magicka Sorc (feeling quite alone here) but know how much the nerf hurt. From class skills to non-class skills. So much was taken, and nothing save a (much needed) Negate buff was given. It's honestly really bad.

But hey, it's still fun to call #NerfSorc once in awhile. Why not? Not like anyone plays it anymore -_-