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czar✭✭✭✭I paid for costumes and earned dyes, i'm not going to pay to combine those two things.
The crown store dye stamps are insulting to those of us who don't subscribe.
I'd be happy for them to revert to the old subscription model, but if they won't then I think it's arrogant of them to lock half of their player base out of very simple features that should have been in the game from the start. They gave us the opportunity not to subscribe, and now they're trying to lure us back in by restricting our game experience if we don't. Give the subscribers fancy mounts or exclusive motifs instead, at least the rest of us can have mounts and motifs too, but we can't have costume dyes or craft bags as it is now - i.e. exclusive content is fine, exclusive features are not.Edited by czar on June 27, 2016 3:49PMstam scrub5 -
i paid for costumes and earned dyes, i'm not going to pay to combine those two things.
the crown store dye stamps are insulting to those of us who don't subscribe.
zos made it b2p because the subscription model didn't work out. i'd be happy for them to revert to the old subscription model, but if they won't then i think it's arrogant of them to lock half of their player base out of very simple features that should have been in the game from the start. they gave us the opportunity not to subscribe, and now they're trying to lure us back in by restricting our game experience if we don't. give the subscribers fancy mounts or exclusive motifs instead, at least the rest of us can have mounts and motifs too, but we can't have costume dyes or craft bags as it is now - i.e. exclusive content is fine, exclusive features are not.
Completely agree with you. You said it better than I did.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I paid for costumes and earned dyes, i'm not going to pay to combine those two things.
The crown store dye stamps are insulting to those of us who don't subscribe.
I'd be happy for them to revert to the old subscription model, but if they won't then I think it's arrogant of them to lock half of their player base out of very simple features that should have been in the game from the start. They gave us the opportunity not to subscribe, and now they're trying to lure us back in by restricting our game experience if we don't. Give the subscribers fancy mounts or exclusive motifs instead, at least the rest of us can have mounts and motifs too, but we can't have costume dyes or craft bags as it is now - i.e. exclusive content is fine, exclusive features are not.
See, there is a pay once solution for it - with limited use after an initial full access to the features - and that is to subscribe for only a month - you get the bag, can fill it, and when the subscription ends, you can take stuff out of it - you can just not add something to the bag, but you will still have it available. And with costume dyes - you can dye them all you want while you are subscribed - those colors you choose will stay after the subscription ends, you can just no longer change them then.
And this is available for 15 bucks - paid only once - or when you need it again - otherwise you are free from reoccurring payments.1 -
EZgoin76✭✭✭✭Transairion wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Cry us a river, maybe you can find a way to bottle the tears and sell them to pay for sub.
Seriously no sub income = no game. Them adding perks to ESO+ both helps keep the game alive for everyone, and gives a valid reason to sub.
This always comes up for different MMO's, but it just isn't true. If subs added so much money, all these MMO's wouldn't go F2P or Buy 2 Play instead of just staying a sub only model like the developers intended.
Subs alone don't make enough money, simple as that. Sure, you want to have subs, but relying on subs only is stupid since they can't support your game. ESO itself only managed to last a single year on a sub-only model, which was hilariously sad.
Isn't the reason ESO went b2p is because of M$?
And as far as sub only not being viable. Both Final Fantasy mmos would have to disagree. If the product is worth it. Most people will gladly pay a monthly sub. Whether it be a game, phone service, ect.I want to change the world. I'm just to lazy to do it.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Transairion wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Cry us a river, maybe you can find a way to bottle the tears and sell them to pay for sub.
Seriously no sub income = no game. Them adding perks to ESO+ both helps keep the game alive for everyone, and gives a valid reason to sub.
This always comes up for different MMO's, but it just isn't true. If subs added so much money, all these MMO's wouldn't go F2P or Buy 2 Play instead of just staying a sub only model like the developers intended.
Subs alone don't make enough money, simple as that. Sure, you want to have subs, but relying on subs only is stupid since they can't support your game. ESO itself only managed to last a single year on a sub-only model, which was hilariously sad.
Isn't the reason ESO went b2p is because of M$?
And as far as sub only not being viable. Both Final Fantasy mmos would have to disagree. If the product is worth it. Most people will gladly pay a monthly sub. Whether it be a game, phone service, ect.
Isn't Wow as well subscription only access?1 -
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✭GamerNoob16 wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Cry us a river, maybe you can find a way to bottle the tears and sell them to pay for sub.
Seriously no sub income = no game. Them adding perks to ESO+ both helps keep the game alive for everyone, and gives a valid reason to sub.
Never said subs was a bad thing, in fact I'd sub if I had the money, but college doesn't come cheap.
A case of beer a month less would pay for your sub. So would having 2-3 fewer coffees at Starbucks. It's all about priorities.
PS... I'm not saying that college shouldn't be your number 1 priority here either. You've made a damned good 1st choice there. Kudos to you, and good luck in school!
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Isn't the reason ESO went b2p is because of M$?
And as far as sub only not being viable. Both Final Fantasy mmos would have to disagree. If the product is worth it. Most people will gladly pay a monthly sub. Whether it be a game, phone service, ect.
That's an excuse, but ESO was failing on PC as a sub-only model before consoles even came into the mix.
As far as Final Fantasy, my initial reaction is "There's FF MMO's now?" but be that as it may, I guess a bunch of MMO's just weren't worth it then since they all gave up on being sub-only pretty fast. My understanding is that FF has a massive Asian market to support it though, the same market that eats up games with massive Pay to Win features: most, if not all the other MMO's I know about were global or USA-marketed which doesn't have that same culture to support it. I may be wrong of course.Isn't Wow as well subscription only access?
90% sure WoW has a "level up to X" F2P option and hands out 1-month trial codes or such like candy.Edited by Transairion on June 27, 2016 4:17PM0 -
GamerNoob16 wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Cry us a river, maybe you can find a way to bottle the tears and sell them to pay for sub.
Seriously no sub income = no game. Them adding perks to ESO+ both helps keep the game alive for everyone, and gives a valid reason to sub.
Never said subs was a bad thing, in fact I'd sub if I had the money, but college doesn't come cheap.
A case of beer a month less would pay for your sub. So would having 2-3 fewer coffees at Starbucks. It's all about priorities.
PS... I'm not saying that college shouldn't be your number 1 priority here either. You've made a damned good 1st choice there. Kudos to you, and good luck in school!
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Pomaikai✭✭✭✭✭
✭I paid for costumes and earned dyes, i'm not going to pay to combine those two things.
The crown store dye stamps are insulting to those of us who don't subscribe.
I'd be happy for them to revert to the old subscription model, but if they won't then I think it's arrogant of them to lock half of their player base out of very simple features that should have been in the game from the start. They gave us the opportunity not to subscribe, and now they're trying to lure us back in by restricting our game experience if we don't. Give the subscribers fancy mounts or exclusive motifs instead, at least the rest of us can have mounts and motifs too, but we can't have costume dyes or craft bags as it is now - i.e. exclusive content is fine, exclusive features are not.
Can you dye costumes right now? Yes or no? If the answer is no, then they're not restricting your gaming experience because it's not something you can do right now.
As I've said before on many other threads like this, if ZOS suggests an ESO+ perk that pisses off a lot of people who don't sub, then they've done it right, and should continue doing so.
PS... I don't even know if I'll still be an ESO+ subscriber when this update hits. I'm giving ZOS until the end of the summer to get a handle on the rampant cheating and exploiting in the game and becoming very upfront on what they consider exploits and cheating, as well as punishment standards for breaking the rules. If they can't do these simple and basic things (I don't expect them to stop all cheating, but they have to REALLY COMMUNICATE with us about it ASAFP!), then I'll be cancelling my ESO+ subscription. It's not something I want to do either. I love this game. I play it daily. A LOT! But there has to be a level playing field, and competition must be fair for it to still be FUN, and in the end if a game is no longer fun, then one shouldn't bother playing it anymore.
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Darkestnght✭✭✭✭I do not see what the big deal is about all this.... It's just a GAME for goodness sake.....and ZOS is just a company making tons money. I say buck up if you want/can afford the benefits or clam up if you decide not to. It is a choice.
I am not an ESO plus member and have no desire to be one.
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czar✭✭✭✭
too bad i don't play the game enough to benefit from a month of features.See, there is a pay once solution for it - with limited use after an initial full access to the features - and that is to subscribe for only a month - you get the bag, can fill it, and when the subscription ends, you can take stuff out of it - you can just not add something to the bag, but you will still have it available. And with costume dyes - you can dye them all you want while you are subscribed - those colors you choose will stay after the subscription ends, you can just no longer change them then.
And this is available for 15 bucks - paid only once - or when you need it again - otherwise you are free from reoccurring payments.
imo crafting bags should be available through the crown store and free to subscribers, costume dyes should be free for everyone just like armour dyes.
of course subscribers are happy, they're the ones being rewarded for twiddling their thumbs - in my view, for no other reason than to drag the rest of us in. i can't believe people are content with this, subscribers would lose abslutely nothing if zos made these things available for everyone and i believe there's plenty of other stuff subscribers could be rewarded with that would both be fair and make subscriptions worthwhile.
if they're going to lock features behind a paywall they might as well just go back to the subscription model.stam scrub2 -
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Not quite. The crown store will offer dye stamps with preset color schemes, rotated every now and then. So you can't choose your own scheme or even use dyes you unlocked through achievements, you have to hope ZOS will offer a combination that fits your style. It's unnecessarily limiting.AzraelKrieg wrote: »Wait....
It is my understanding that everyone can dye costumes. Just that ESO+ can do it for free while the rest have to pay?
Or am I mistaken and this feature is only available to ESO+ and even they have to pay?
You're understanding is correct. ESO+ members get all dying options available to them with the sub. Non-ESO+ members need to pay for dye stamps
Ah phew. I would hate to pay for costume dyes even though im ESO+. So OP has nothing to worry about. You can dye costumes too OP. Just need to pay some crowns is all.
I agree that it is unnecessarily limiting.
I think a better option would be to offer another kind of consumable that would let you access your dyes for that costume you are wearing only, and it would be consumed once you accepted the colors, instead of the dye stamps.Transairion wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Cry us a river, maybe you can find a way to bottle the tears and sell them to pay for sub.
Seriously no sub income = no game. Them adding perks to ESO+ both helps keep the game alive for everyone, and gives a valid reason to sub.
This always comes up for different MMO's, but it just isn't true. If subs added so much money, all these MMO's wouldn't go F2P or Buy 2 Play instead of just staying a sub only model like the developers intended.
Subs alone don't make enough money, simple as that. Sure, you want to have subs, but relying on subs only is stupid since they can't support your game. ESO itself only managed to last a single year on a sub-only model, which was hilariously sad.
Isn't the reason ESO went b2p is because of M$?
And as far as sub only not being viable. Both Final Fantasy mmos would have to disagree. If the product is worth it. Most people will gladly pay a monthly sub. Whether it be a game, phone service, ect.
That was the official reason, yes. ZOS and Microsoft couldn't reach an agreement regarding the subs. A lot of people don't buy it, though, and believe it was because the game flopped as sub-only.Edited by Abeille on June 27, 2016 4:21PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
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✭✭GamerNoob16 wrote: »OP logic:
IF you can store more craftable collectables and resources instead of selling them when you have too many banked and if you can dye your costumes you have won the game
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Please OP find us the cure for cancer next you are definitely on the right track!
WOW I never though I would be this close to finding it...to bad I didn't find it in time to save my father...
Really dude?.............0 -
exeeter702 wrote: »GamerNoob16 wrote: »OP logic:
IF you can store more craftable collectables and resources instead of selling them when you have too many banked and if you can dye your costumes you have won the game
-claps
Please OP find us the cure for cancer next you are definitely on the right track!
WOW I never though I would be this close to finding it...to bad I didn't find it in time to save my father...
Really dude?.............
Yes a very sad day.0 -
Pomaikai✭✭✭✭✭
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too bad i don't play the game enough to benefit from a month of features.See, there is a pay once solution for it - with limited use after an initial full access to the features - and that is to subscribe for only a month - you get the bag, can fill it, and when the subscription ends, you can take stuff out of it - you can just not add something to the bag, but you will still have it available. And with costume dyes - you can dye them all you want while you are subscribed - those colors you choose will stay after the subscription ends, you can just no longer change them then.
And this is available for 15 bucks - paid only once - or when you need it again - otherwise you are free from reoccurring payments.
imo crafting bags should be available through the crown store and free to subscribers, costume dyes should be free for everyone just like armour dyes.
of course subscribers are happy, they're the ones being rewarded for twiddling their thumbs - in my view, for no other reason than to drag the rest of us in. i can't believe people are content with this, subscribers would lose abslutely nothing if zos made these things available for everyone and i believe there's plenty of other stuff subscribers could be rewarded with that would both be fair and make subscriptions worthwhile.
if they're going to lock features behind a paywall they might as well just go back to the subscription model.
No we're not just "twiddling our thumbs", we're being rewarded like every other membership perk program offered by businesses in the world, for being subscribers and giving them extra money. We're PAYING for our perks. You want the perks? Then pay for it like we do!3 -
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✭✭Transairion wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Cry us a river, maybe you can find a way to bottle the tears and sell them to pay for sub.
Seriously no sub income = no game. Them adding perks to ESO+ both helps keep the game alive for everyone, and gives a valid reason to sub.
This always comes up for different MMO's, but it just isn't true. If subs added so much money, all these MMO's wouldn't go F2P or Buy 2 Play instead of just staying a sub only model like the developers intended.
Subs alone don't make enough money, simple as that. Sure, you want to have subs, but relying on subs only is stupid since they can't support your game. ESO itself only managed to last a single year on a sub-only model, which was hilariously sad.
You truly do not know what you are talking about.
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✭✭GamerNoob16 wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »GamerNoob16 wrote: »OP logic:
IF you can store more craftable collectables and resources instead of selling them when you have too many banked and if you can dye your costumes you have won the game
-claps
Please OP find us the cure for cancer next you are definitely on the right track!
WOW I never though I would be this close to finding it...to bad I didn't find it in time to save my father...
Really dude?.............
Yes a very sad day.
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i am paying for the game and giving them extra money for dlc's and crowns, what's your pointNo we're not just "twiddling our thumbs", we're being rewarded like every other membership perk program offered by businesses in the world, for being subscribers and giving them extra money. We're PAYING for our perks. You want the perks? Then pay for it like we do!stam scrub1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Crown store costumes purchases should include one complimentary unrestricted dye session. After that, you sub or pay to change it. That would change the feature to a perk.GamerNoob16 wrote: »I love ZOS and everything they have done they continue to impress me and I love and support them so much that I plan on after college to work for them
You should always have a cautious relationship with your employer, because they won't love or support you in the same way. And you're already setting yourself up to take a rejection from ZOS personally. Don't. Step back and realize they're just one option in a sea of opportunity if you work hard, network, and build a strong foundation for yourself.signing off5 -
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i am paying for the game and giving them extra money for dlc's and crowns, what's your pointNo we're not just "twiddling our thumbs", we're being rewarded like every other membership perk program offered by businesses in the world, for being subscribers and giving them extra money. We're PAYING for our perks. You want the perks? Then pay for it like we do!
No, you PAID for those things. One time only. I pay monthly. There is a difference. Especially to banks when they go to them for more money. What's YOUR point?
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there's a good chance subscribers/non-subscribers have spent the same amount of money on the game but we still get different game experiencesNo, you PAID for those things. One time only. I pay monthly. There is a difference. Especially to banks when they go to them for more money. What's YOUR point?
eso isn't worth a subscription when zos can't fund their game on them alonestam scrub0 -
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there's a good chance subscribers/non-subscribers have spent the same amount of money on the game but we still get different game experiencesNo, you PAID for those things. One time only. I pay monthly. There is a difference. Especially to banks when they go to them for more money. What's YOUR point?
eso isn't worth a subscription when zos can't fund their game on them alone
If you don't think ESO is worth the subscription then don't complain when people get benefits for subbing1 -
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✭Crown store costumes purchases should include one complimentary unrestricted dye session. After that, you sub or pay to change it. That would change the feature to a perk.
I really like this idea. That way, when anyone, ESO+ or not, bought a costume, they could pick what the costume looked like. And I don't think that would be dipping too much into the subscriber perks bucket.
Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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✭✭Transairion wrote: »
Isn't the reason ESO went b2p is because of M$?
And as far as sub only not being viable. Both Final Fantasy mmos would have to disagree. If the product is worth it. Most people will gladly pay a monthly sub. Whether it be a game, phone service, ect.
That's an excuse, but ESO was failing on PC as a sub-only model before consoles even came into the mix.
As far as Final Fantasy, my initial reaction is "There's FF MMO's now?" but be that as it may, I guess a bunch of MMO's just weren't worth it then since they all gave up on being sub-only pretty fast. My understanding is that FF has a massive Asian market to support it though, the same market that eats up games with massive Pay to Win features: most, if not all the other MMO's I know about were global or USA-marketed which doesn't have that same culture to support it. I may be wrong of course.Isn't Wow as well subscription only access?
90% sure WoW has a "level up to X" F2P option and hands out 1-month trial codes or such like candy.
Look regarding ff14, you could not be more wrong. If you are going to engage in a discussion about the strength or lack thereof of the subscription model for mmos, at the very least educate yourself.
First of all, ff11 and ff14 are Japanese mmos, and Japan as most people hmshould know, is not very big on mmos in general.
Ff14 saw its biggest level of success exclusively via Japanese, European and American audiences, and only VERY recently expanded to both China and Korea which do not even operate on a sub only model.
It shows both your lack of knowledge on the subject matter and your incredible ignorance by assuming by default that ff11 and ff14 belong to that "Asian p2w f2p" cesspool of a market on top of not even knowing ff14 existed in the first place when it is arguably as, if not more popular than eso currently.
The subscription model itself is by far the most reliable and prefered method of revenue income for an mmo. The reason you do not see it is because players nowdays prefer to not be beholden to a game in such a way, or there play time does not make it worth it, or they do not want to commit to something that may not be good in the long run, the list goes on.
That does not change the fact that devs highly prefer the sub model as it is reliable revenue as opposed to volatile. It allows them to appropriate funds and plan content creation more accurately. They want us to sub, it is why they have been creating very desirable incentives in the first place.
The end game for most of these types of mmos with a non sub and a sub option is to get you to play, show its worth it, and convince you to sub, and if you don't want to or cannot not there is a cash shop to allow you to peice meal your experience.
I assure you the sub model mathematically is the better option when it comes to revenue in the long term.1 -
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i would subscribe if that was the only way to play the game, but it's not. that was zos' decision and now they're either rewarding or punishing us for using the options they've given us.FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »If you don't think ESO is worth the subscription then don't complain when people get benefits for subbingstam scrub0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Transairion wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Cry us a river, maybe you can find a way to bottle the tears and sell them to pay for sub.
Seriously no sub income = no game. Them adding perks to ESO+ both helps keep the game alive for everyone, and gives a valid reason to sub.
This always comes up for different MMO's, but it just isn't true. If subs added so much money, all these MMO's wouldn't go F2P or Buy 2 Play instead of just staying a sub only model like the developers intended.
Subs alone don't make enough money, simple as that. Sure, you want to have subs, but relying on subs only is stupid since they can't support your game. ESO itself only managed to last a single year on a sub-only model, which was hilariously sad.
The basis of your argument is flawed.
Subscribers provide the more fruitful revenue source. Simply adding up the cost of the 4 DLC that have come out vs a year of sub long with each sub plan demonstrates this. Considering most players are not going for the longer sub plan makes subs even more lucrative. Adding that players that choose to buy DLC. May choose to pass on some even adds to his beneficial subs are.
You are correct that subs alone do not provide enough revenue and it seems to be the he nature of the market these days. I agree it's sad the market has changed in this manner.
Games are choosing the mixed model of sub/B2P or Sub/F2P in order to keep that subscription business going while hoping to gain added revenue from the additional players.
Both groups are important but the subscribers are the foundation and the business side has every need and right to provide incentives and rewards to subscribers. It's good business and considering the clamor over the bags and other items in the pipeline that are ESO+ perks, they made good business choices.Edited by idk on June 27, 2016 4:52PM1 -
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there's a good chance subscribers/non-subscribers have spent the same amount of money on the game but we still get different game experiencesNo, you PAID for those things. One time only. I pay monthly. There is a difference. Especially to banks when they go to them for more money. What's YOUR point?
eso isn't worth a subscription when zos can't fund their game on them alone
Then quit complaining. If you refuse to subscribe, then you don't get the perks. That's it. Tough luck. I'm now done listening to you, as there just isn't a point. You're never going to get what you want. Get over it.
PS... Where should we send your 8th Place and Participation trophies to?
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Crown store costumes purchases should include one complimentary unrestricted dye session. After that, you sub or pay to change it. That would change the feature to a perk.GamerNoob16 wrote: »I love ZOS and everything they have done they continue to impress me and I love and support them so much that I plan on after college to work for them
You should always have a cautious relationship with your employer, because they won't love or support you in the same way. And you're already setting yourself up to take a rejection from ZOS personally. Don't. Step back and realize they're just one option in a sea of opportunity if you work hard, network, and build a strong foundation for yourself.
I'll try to remember that next time. Thanks for the heads up. 0