vMA drop rate is still terrabad [Rant]

XaXa · June 2016

Seriously, I have run it 5 times today and have only received rings from the last chest. out of 50 runs since DB I have gotten 5 S/S, 3 resto staves, and 2 daggers, all with bad traits (Except for a semi decent Resto).

WHY is it so hard to implement a token system?
WHY are people who can barely get a completion getting inferno staves on their first go?
WHY do you REFUSE to reward player EFFORT and SKILL in favor of bullsh*t RNG?
WHY do you INSIST on implementing terrabad traits that NO ONE WANTS.

This content is NOT FUN. It stopped being fun after the first 10 runs with no decent reward.

I swear I'm going to lose my mind if I get my leaderboard reward this week and don't have a sharpened inferno staff.

This content is boring, glitchy, and downright full of so much BS lag that it is simply asinine to not allow us to take the item we want after X runs.

I know there are countless other threads with this. but F it. might as well create another one in the hopes that they will realize how idiotic their design is.

notimetocare · June 2016

I like it how it is.
Sincerely,
A guy who has only gotten 1 useable weapon

XaXa · June 2016

none of the weapons I have gotten have been usable by me.

Unless I wanna reroll a tank with my Maelstrom Shield and Mace.

/Sigh. Run number 6 for the night incoming. ill post what I get. most likely a permafrost ring.

RoyJade · June 2016

Done it nine time now. Only get four MA weapon : a decisive 2H mace, two defender 2H greatwsord, and a gold defender 2H greatsword with the leaderboard.
I'm not bored yet, but I think I will be really fast...

mb10 · June 2016

its fine how it is have you ever played any other games let alone MMOs?

Some items in other games have a drop rate of less than 1% so stop moaning and keep going

complaining on the forums should not change the vMSA drop rate at all in my opinion.

BEST WEAPONS IN THE GAME THEY SHOULD BE HARD TO GET!

TheHsN · June 2016

they should take out useless traits from that and from whole game....

XaXa · June 2016

I agree they should be hard to get. and yes I have played other games before. I remember weapons in diablo 3 had even worse drop rates.

I'm saying that as it is right now the difficulty in obtaining the weapons is completely luck based and is not rewarded based on skill or effort.

In TS with a group of people. Someone scrapes through with a score of only a couple thousand and gets exactly what they want.

Other players on 50 - 100th run, scoring 400-500k a run and getting nothing but gear they cant use and crap traits.

this is not a reward for skill or effort. it is a roll of the dice where people who can barley even complete the content get better loot then people who can run it in an hour.

RoyJade · June 2016

RNG is not the solution to a "hard to get". A token system is far better because it reward you for your skill, not for your luck.
The best solution IMO is a double system : keep the random loot at the end, but give a token for each success. With enough token, you can choose the weapon/armor type, and with more token you can choose the trait.

XaXa · June 2016

RoyJade wrote: »

RNG is not the solution to a "hard to get". A token system is far better because it reward you for your skill, not for your luck.
The best solution IMO is a double system : keep the random loot at the end, but give a token for each success. With enough token, you can choose the weapon/armor type, and with more token you can choose the trait.

#Preach It

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Molec · June 2016

As a magika user and from 25+ runs I received 6 times as many stamina weapons than I did staves, the only 2 staves I received were lightning staffs and they ruin my DPS due to the lack of being able to weave efficiently, 90% of the traits are poor and I'm getting duplicates of weapons with different traits as well as the awesome reward of a ring that can be sold for 51g every other run

The token system as suggested is a fantastic way to deal with weapons, even if its 3-5 runs worth of tokens to guarantee a specific weapon type.

Edited as this was a rushed post from this morning

leepalmer95 · June 2016

Done it around 15 times, still haven't actually got anything useful.

Haven't bothered since.

MrCray78 · June 2016

12 VMA = 2 Try before DB(2 Staff),10 Try After DB(Only Ring)...

Molag_Crow · June 2016

I'm still after a resto staff, and yeah I keep getting rings too, wtf ...

Oh and hmm about that 50% chance of a weapon from the chest? sorry, I call BS...

If shuffle (Evasion) can make the player dodge 50-80% of the time rather than 20% like the tooltip states, then we know that 50% chance of a maelstrom weapon from the chest is probably something like 5%

SoulKing32 · June 2016

While I agree that the VMA-Weapons should be hard to get, a token system is badly needed. It would improve the gaming experience a lot. The current system is frustrating and does not reward players for their skill at all. In my experience the chance to find a VMA-Weapon in the last chest is way below 50%.

Armitas · June 2016

I hate to say this but give up on that buggy lag ridden dungeon. Last time I hit that dungeon I rage quit the game for 3-4 months. Trust me, quit that dungeon before it makes you quit the game.

DRXHarbinger · June 2016

Repetition doesn't make it hard or easy...it's frustrating. I'd rather be farming something else like ICP or in PVP than sitting out maelstrom getting invisible adds and dashboarded all for a robust succession ring. Other items don't need to be in the last chest, in a few months no one is going to bother with vma and all go Vdsa for new master swords if they revamp for next update.

ZOS please listen to us for the next update, Vdsa chest cannot contain crap. Or if it has to keep mew footman jewelery BoE as it used to be so we at least can make some profit for our 2hr efforts.

XaXa · June 2016

Got another Succession ring last night from the last run. ill see what I get today. =/

EDIT: Wanna know what I got so far today? Another succession ring. ZOS, PLEASE fix you your broken, janky a*s loot system!

Fignutz821 · June 2016

I'm fine with the drops just pissed about the traits... Got a charged inferno staff the other day... Why?

XaXa · June 2016

At this point I would honestly take a charged inferno staff. I'm currently on 7 runs in a row without a single weapon dropping.

Silver_Strider · June 2016

I've bothered to clear vMA all of 2 times, once each with my Magblade and Stamblade

My Magblade got a Precise Maelstrom Bow
My Stamblade got a Nirnhoned Inferno Staff

I am content.

XaXa · June 2016

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I've bothered to clear vMA all of 2 times, once each with my Magblade and Stamblade

My Magblade got a Precise Maelstrom Bow
My Stamblade got a Nirnhoned Inferno Staff

I am content.

Teach me your ways. How do you appease RNGesus?

BWatch · June 2016

XaXa wrote: »

Seriously, I have run it 5 times today and have only received rings from the last chest. out of 50 runs since DB I have gotten 5 S/S, 3 resto staves, and 2 daggers, all with bad traits (Except for a semi decent Resto).

WHY is it so hard to implement a token system?
WHY are people who can barely get a completion getting inferno staves on their first go?
WHY do you REFUSE to reward player EFFORT and SKILL in favor of bullsh*t RNG?
WHY do you INSIST on implementing terrabad traits that NO ONE WANTS.

This content is NOT FUN. It stopped being fun after the first 10 runs with no decent reward.

I swear I'm going to lose my mind if I get my leaderboard reward this week and don't have a sharpened inferno staff.

This content is boring, glitchy, and downright full of so much BS lag that it is simply asinine to not allow us to take the item we want after X runs.

I know there are countless other threads with this. but F it. might as well create another one in the hopes that they will realize how idiotic their design is.

I feel yea man I've run it probably 15 times since DB dropped I've gotten 3 weapons. If anything the drop rate decreased lol.

Silver_Strider · June 2016

XaXa wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

I've bothered to clear vMA all of 2 times, once each with my Magblade and Stamblade

My Magblade got a Precise Maelstrom Bow
My Stamblade got a Nirnhoned Inferno Staff

I am content.

Teach me your ways. How do you appease RNGesus?

IDK, maybe RNGesus takes pity on Argonian Characters. Or maybe the simultaneous death with the last boss that both my characters had was an appealing sacrifice to RNGesus and offered me a pity weapon out of good faith.

Shadesofkin · June 2016

I loathe it as well.

tist · June 2016

Do they not realize the drop rate is broken? I have gotten like 5 rings in a row this week. How the hell do they expect you to get a decent weapon when they do not even drop.. let alone some ridiculous trait bound to be on it. The weapons need to drop 100%, similar to undaunted shoulders given the traits are random. Low drop rate with random traits is just absurd.. I can't even.

Armitas · June 2016

XaXa wrote: »

At this point I would honestly take a charged inferno staff. I'm currently on 7 runs in a row without a single weapon dropping.

Yep. And how many pots and how much gold and time have you lost in the process? It's a miserable process, absolutely miserable.

PurifedBladez · June 2016

I haven't invested much time into vma. Only on round 6, I feel like I could beat it but it sucks the fun out of the game for me the second it starts. So boring. Last night I was gonna make a run at it and I dc'd in the loading screen, dc'd while trying to load the game back up and finally dc'd inside vma so I just stopped playing lol. I knew I wasn't into it anyways.

I really wish there was a pvp alternative to maelstrom weps.. it's like the only thing I can do in this game for more then 1 hour.

Jsmalls · June 2016

My last four runs have given me 3 glory rings and a resto staff (Roughly my 10th). I run vMA 3 to 4 times a week since launch. 500k+ score every run. I have around 40 Maelstrom weapons. I've easily completed 80 to 100 runs. I have recieved 1 inferno staff, and no it wasn't sharpened (got this staff on my 2nd run).

ZOS you tell me what to do. This Arena is not fun anymore, I've experimented with different builds, even tried a heavy armored Sorc with no wards (got a 450k). I'm sick and tired of running this content. I use around 40 spell power pots a run, and sometimes rearrange my champion points, its a money sink for me and it's driving me crazy trying to get what I want.

And I'm sure I'm not the only one. A token system is needed for things like this. Please.

Nifty2g · June 2016

I'll let you know something disappointing
The top guy in vma for 2 major updates farms it more than anyone and goes in there all the time probably with hundreds of completes and a ton of weeklies still doesn't have a sharpened inferno staff

Lucky for me I got it on my second clear

XaXa · June 2016

10th consecutive run I finally get a Maelstrom weapon. A powered Maelstrom Bow. so useful for my Magicka NB.

peniku8 · June 2016

I'll bring back my idea of rewarding 1 Token for every 100k you get in your score, meaning that you'll get 5 Tokens with a 500k score. You should be able to buy the weapon of your choice with 50 tokens (seriously I wouldn't even mind 100, I've run if far more often than that and I still don't have a single Inferno staff). Also fix weaving, my average deaths ins vmsa have quintupled since DB release (from 2 to 10 lol)