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For Magicka classes, make dodge roll magicka based.
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GivvumBoane✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Magicka being used for a physical task makes no sense. Magicka would instead be used for short-range teleportation as a means of dodging.
And I'm sure you think stamina based healing off of "sweat" makes sense...
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Magicka being used for a physical task makes no sense. Magicka would instead be used for short-range teleportation as a means of dodging.
And I'm sure you think stamina based healing off of "sweat" makes sense...
No, I call that adrenaline.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭No. If you did this, what would be the point of separate resource pools?1 -
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »GivvumBoane wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Magicka being used for a physical task makes no sense. Magicka would instead be used for short-range teleportation as a means of dodging.
That could be cool, but everyone would complain about that as well. There would be countless threads complain about teleports and not being able to track their targets, blah,blah.
The teleports would be the same distance you could dodge roll, and the time it takes to teleport and reappear would basically be as long as how long you roll. In other words Dodge Rolling with Magicka with a different animation.
IF that teleport Magicka "Dodge" needs an ability, it will cost you a slot of your ability bar.
That is a big disadvantage compared to the physical Dodge"I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU1 -
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »GivvumBoane wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Magicka being used for a physical task makes no sense. Magicka would instead be used for short-range teleportation as a means of dodging.
That could be cool, but everyone would complain about that as well. There would be countless threads complain about teleports and not being able to track their targets, blah,blah.
The teleports would be the same distance you could dodge roll, and the time it takes to teleport and reappear would basically be as long as how long you roll. In other words Dodge Rolling with Magicka with a different animation.
IF that teleport Magicka "Dodge" needs an ability, it will cost you a slot of your ability bar.
That is a big disadvantage compared to the physical Dodge
It wouldn't need a slot of your ability bar. You would have an Option (probably under Gameplay) letting you choose whether dodging consumes Magicka or Stamina.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 24, 2016 6:53AMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Johngo0036✭✭✭✭✭NO thank you.. leave it in stamina..PC EU Megaserver
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Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭What in the world is a magicka class? Every class can spec to Magicka or Stam...how do you propose ESO determines when to use the Magicka pool for roll dodging? Based on how many attribute points they assign to Magicka? What about people that put all their points into Health and use food/glyphs/sets to boost their preferred stat?
I don't think it's that "simple".
Ridiculous claim. You know damn well they are more than capable of scaling abilities to either your weapon or spell damage.
Dawn Breaker? Now only deals Physical Damage.. You think they just "flipped the switch" on that by accident?
lol
Some of you folks are hilarious.
Edited by Eshelmen on June 24, 2016 7:49AMPC and PS4 EP only player0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Then you might aswell take away magicka and stamina and instead base everything on "power" with one resource pool.
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✭brandonv516 wrote: »Dodge should actually be a short teleport slide for characters specced in magicka.
Genious!
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Eweroun✭✭✭✭HMMM....
so let's say they do it... (LET'S SAY - I don't want it)
I can already imagine the next subject on the forum...
"Sprinting should use magicka instead of stamina, cause I have so few of it"
In addition to the tread.. are stam sorcs not already overpowered? they have streak and stamina for dodge roll...
oh hell... think I should create another nerf tread, cause those damn sorcs are way OP!!!
c'mon guys,
rolling is physical, so stam based...
that's even not ESO Lore, just basic biology IRL...
some of you are really screwing up things
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✭✭How about we remove magicka and stamina, and replace it with "swag", which fuels everything?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think what we need is more balance in armor passives as right now the best passives are in the medium armor tree as you have 3 double passives there and tbh all of them are great. I think that heavy armor should have implemented break free or block cost reduction in passives. Light armor is quite good but when you look closer its like, why the hell medium armor have regen and skill cost reduction in one passive while we have them in separate passives, why our last passive requires as the onlyone 5 pieces of LA instead of calculating from each piece equiped? I think some tweaks are needed like combine magica regen and skill cost reduction in one passive and add fifth that e.g. allows to split costs of roll dodge between stamina and magica like each piece of LA transfers up to 2/4% cost of roll dodge or/and break free to magica so stamina would be still required, costs would be the same but it would make magica classes less vulnerable to insane stamina drain in pvp while still leaving a choice... Just my humble opinion
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✭✭I would like a magicka based roll dodge maybe a quick teleport forward or some type of slide or side stepXbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
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Azoryl✭✭✭The balanced course of action would be:
Implement a Physicka stat for damage determination of physical(current stamina based) skill
Stamina would then be only for dodge...
Give every race/class the same stamina number... maybe give boost to certain classes races for flair, but it is not needed.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Absolutely not and I play mostly magika builds. It's to lazy doing it this way.
Be glad the energy required to dodge roll and block isn't the same as needed for your dps.brandonv516 wrote: »Dodge should actually be a short teleport slide for characters specced in magicka.
Technically we are all species into magika. Stam builds still have some magika and skills they can use.
Edited by idk on June 24, 2016 1:24PM0 -
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✭This alone wouldn't balance out things between Stamina and Magicka builds. That's going to be a really hard fix for Zenimax to work out and I don't envy them at all.
As long as one side has a separate(magicka uses stamina for cc break,dodge and block) pool to use for these things and the other has the ability to stack massive weapon damage, classes will not be balanced.
I really don't see how they can do it without creating a new resource pool for CC Break, dodge roll, block, light and heavy attacks.NA Server - Kildair0 -
Fallen_Ray✭✭✭✭✭That would make no sense at all. Why would a physical action use up magic energy instead of physical energy?"Dear brother, I do not spread rumors, I create them"- Lucien Lachance0
