Night Blade for a Crappy Player

Gromgok · June 2016

Hey guys,

I'm kind of pumped by the new rogue additions to TESO. However, I kind of suck at TESO solo PvE. I'm old and uncoordinated and slow. I have trouble with dodging.

Anyway, is there a NB dagger build that I could play that might work for an old timer like me? One that doesn't have to constantly reposition and dodge? Or is that contrary to the very mechanics of the game itself?

Any advice is appreciated, and the more detailed the better for this noob!

Thanks!

UltimaJoe777 · June 2016

You seek a Magicka Nightblade build then. Wear some Heavy Armor for Shadow Barrier and rely on things like Sap Essence, Mass Hysteria, and Killer's Blade to get the job done all the while tanking the hits that come your way.

Gromgok · June 2016

That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??

UltimaJoe777 · June 2016

Gromgok wrote: »

That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??

Yes. Dual Wielding has the highest base damage of all weapon types. You just won't find much use in the Dual Wield attacks lol

Smasherx74 · June 2016

Focus on nb critical build, currently NB with crit build can out dps stamDK or souplar

WhiteNoiseMaker · June 2016

Actually using Dual Weapons for the Passive bonuses is excellent if you are Magicka based, just don't learn/slot any of the actual attack skills for use.

Gromgok · June 2016

Is there a detailed build I could find somewhere for a Magicka NB? I've got very little experience in the game so far.

Vinther · June 2016

Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

Vinther · June 2016

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Focus on nb critical build, currently NB with crit build can out dps stamDK or souplar

I don't know under which rock you live at, but "OK"

SlayerTheDragon · June 2016

You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

Gromgok · June 2016

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

Vinther · June 2016

Gromgok wrote: »

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):

Van_0S · June 2016

Vinther wrote: »

Gromgok wrote: »

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):

OP, you should try templars ( magicka version also)
Just use jabs/sweeps that it. You don't need to move like dodgeroll a lot and when the boss HP is low use Radiant destruction.

The rotations for Magplar.
Channel focus>entropy>toppling charge> puncturing sweeps> RD(low health only)

Get more Champion points and put 75 in thaumaturge.
Weapons: Dual wielding.
Armor: 5:1:1 or 6:1
5:1:1, 5 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy.( undaunted passive)
6: light, 1 heavy.
Karg set/julanious.
Get will power rings for spell damage.
For stamplars

No idea!( of a good build)

Lastly, NB for magicka version uses a lot of rotations and stamina is all about burst.

TheUrbanWizard · June 2016

Use Double Take morph, it will speed you up for a while.

UltimaJoe777 · June 2016

Vinther wrote: »

Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

Haters gonna hate.

Vinther · June 2016

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

Use Double Take morph, it will speed you up for a while.

From what I've seen, newbie with speed buffs are more prone to deaths than without. I also know from the experience of trying to get up the stairs with speed buffed 60% mount and on foot xD

Vinther · June 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Vinther wrote: »

Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

Haters gonna hate.

The longer you live...

NovaShadow · June 2016

If you stick with DW use swords for more damage or daggers for the crit. Only put skill points in the last DW passive as it's the only one that you need (and all the others require use of DW skills).

For skills, you can't go past refreshing path, funnel health, siphoning attacks, sap essence, merciless resolve (think that's the magic one), impale, inner light (if you want more crit), cloak and concealed weapon.

5 heavy armor and 2 light for the passives and so you can tank those extra hits if that's what you're struggling with at the moment.

Brrrofski · June 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Gromgok wrote: »

That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??

Yes. Dual Wielding has the highest base damage of all weapon types. You just won't find much use in the Dual Wield attacks lol

Only swords. Daggers won't do anything for a magics build

UltimaJoe777 · June 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Gromgok wrote: »

That sounds good! And I can still use daggers and be roguey??

Yes. Dual Wielding has the highest base damage of all weapon types. You just won't find much use in the Dual Wield attacks lol

Only swords. Daggers won't do anything for a magics build

Well it's not that big a difference if he wants to use Daggers but ya lol

Gromgok · June 2016

Van_0S wrote: »

Vinther wrote: »

Gromgok wrote: »

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):

OP, you should try templars ( magicka version also)
Just use jabs/sweeps that it. You don't need to move like dodgeroll a lot and when the boss HP is low use Radiant destruction.

The rotations for Magplar.
Channel focus>entropy>toppling charge> puncturing sweeps> RD(low health only)

Get more Champion points and put 75 in thaumaturge.
Weapons: Dual wielding.
Armor: 5:1:1 or 6:1
5:1:1, 5 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy.( undaunted passive)
6: light, 1 heavy.
Karg set/julanious.
Get will power rings for spell damage.
For stamplars
No idea!( of a good build)

Lastly, NB for magicka version uses a lot of rotations and stamina is all about burst.

OK! So I can play a dual-dagger-wielding Templar, too? Can he take part in all the new thieves' guild quests? Are those open to any character type?

Thanks for all the help, guys!

ArchMikem · June 2016

Gromgok wrote: »

OK! So I can play a dual-dagger-wielding Templar, too? Can he take part in all the new thieves' guild quests? Are those open to any character type?

Thanks for all the help, guys!

None of the Questlines are restricted. You can literally be a Stendarr worshiping Templar Healer dressed in all white and still become an Assassin in the Dark Brotherhood. So you're fine with the Thieve's Guild.

clayandaudrey_ESO · June 2016

You can do very well with a dw stamina build. Not at home right now but I will pm you my build if you like. It is very much the rogue archetype.

Gromgok · June 2016

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

You can do very well with a dw stamina build. Not at home right now but I will pm you my build if you like. It is very much the rogue archetype.

Sure, if it would suit me crappy playstyle, please send it! Thanks.

Gromgok · June 2016

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

Why do Templars have to move less? I don't understand enough about the game yet to know this.

Also, is there the possibility of combining spear + shield, either as a Templar or NB?

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

Vinther wrote: »

Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

LOL

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Vinther wrote: »

Hey man, its all good, 99% of nightblades are crappy players. It's a class meant for crappy players, just like rogues in WoW and snipers in CoD.

You'll improve, keep at it. Go to tamrielfoundry.com forums for NB builds.

Haters gonna hate.

Exactly! Had me cracking up. I make deceivers believers.

babedenny · June 2016

If you're old and have trouble dodging (like me), put all of your points into health. Every, single, one. Then enchant all your gear with stamina (or magicka) to make up for it. Learn to weave light and heavy attacks.

A younger, more skilled player, may do better going 100% DPS. I need wiggle room. It has made a world of difference for me.

Edit: bread. steal it. eat it. often.

Edit #2: block, block, block.

Edit #3: i should add that i am a redguard. as such, i have great stamina passives.

Junkogen · June 2016

Vinther wrote: »

Gromgok wrote: »

SlayerTheDragon wrote: »

You should try Templar - they have designed it so that you DONT move.

Hmm, do Templars heal other players? I was kinda looking forward to trying a stealthy rogue type.

To answer your question, this is my templar (and no, i dont heal other players):

He makes love to them.