How many Grand Ovrelords in ESO already?

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

i just made some math
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alliance_Points
1-50 ranks need 64.680.000 ap

even if you are super pro and playing EVERY day for 3+ hours, 200k ap per day, it must take 323 days

but 200k ap and every day its impossible - you need to rest sometimes

is there many Grand overlords atm?

UltimaJoe777 · June 2016

Obviously your calculations are off...

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

@UltimaJoe777 no, my math is right

this info was taken directly from the client and confirmed by many sources and wiki sites

UltimaJoe777 · June 2016

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

@UltimaJoe777 no, my math is right

this info was taken directly from the client and confirmed by many sources and wiki sites

And yet there are Grand Overlords according to you.

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

so they need to farm more than 1 million ap per day

its possible?

Dracane · June 2016

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

i just made some math
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alliance_Points
1-50 ranks need 832.994.900 ap

even if you are super pro and playing EVERY day for 4+ hours, 500k ap per day, it must take 4.5 YEARS

but im confused, there is already 48-50 ranks in the game... and game is not 5 years old

what do you think, how it happened?

exploits?

Oh honey

ahahahaa. There have been grand overlords since over 1 year ago at least.
Keep in mind, that gaining AP was muuuuuch easier in the early days of the game. One single person could take on zergs basically. Things have become harder today.

Sharee · June 2016

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

i just made some math
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alliance_Points
1-50 ranks need 832.994.900 ap

The link you provided says total alliance points required for rank 50 are just 64.680.000...

Molag_Crow · June 2016

I don't want to put anybody down, but Mutagen spammers can get Grand Overlord in a few months if they play a lot. Shame that it comes down to that, though.

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

oh sorry my math was wrong
let me edit posts

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

Molag_Crow wrote: »

I don't want to put anybody down, but Mutagen spammers can get Grand Overlord in a few months if they play a lot. Shame that it comes down to that, though.

@molag how so? mutagen can heal only 2 targets

you gaining ap if you heal some1 who was hurt by a player character, right?

Vinther · June 2016

Not mutagen, mutagen sucks. Rapid regeneration morph is much better for AP leeching.

And you gain AP basically from almost every action the player takes who has been affected by your heals recently.

Just jump into a friendly zerg during PvP (ungrouped) and spam rapid regeneration and watch the AP fly.

I think I unlocked Magicka Detonation in like 1hour with my magblade

Molag_Crow · June 2016

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

I don't want to put anybody down, but Mutagen spammers can get Grand Overlord in a few months if they play a lot. Shame that it comes down to that, though.

@molag how so? mutagen can heal only 2 targets

you gaining ap if you heal some1 who was hurt by a player character, right?

They spam it so it'll go on all targets (works best on zergs) and every kill that the players make (with mutagen on them) shares the AP to the mutagen spammer.

There's someone well-known for doing it and they're already a Grand Overlord (on PS4) heh

Molag_Crow · June 2016

Vinther wrote: »

Not mutagen, mutagen sucks. Rapid regeneration morph is much better for AP leeching.

And you gain AP basically from almost every action the player takes who has been affected by your heals recently.

Just jump into a friendly zerg during PvP (ungrouped) and spam rapid regeneration and watch the AP fly.

I think I unlocked Magicka Detonation in like 1hour with my magblade

Yeah, Rapid regen seems to be better. Was going to mention that too but wasn't sure.

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

@Vinther but why ungrouped?

its important or not?

Vinther · June 2016

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

@Vinther but why ungrouped?

its important or not?

Because then you don't split the AP gains xD

Molag_Crow · June 2016

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

@Vinther but why ungrouped?

its important or not?

I think over 6 players in a group = less AP gains.

AJ_1988 · June 2016

Stand on a keep wall and spam it when they jump off and hurt themselves you get Ap xb1 eu the average for top leaders in 30 days 7-10 mil

Vinther · June 2016

For an example:

You are in a group of 24 people: You and one other guy kill some scrub trying to gank someone. Your AP gain gets divided between all of your group members, regardless if they actually even hit the guy or not.

You are solo, you tag a player or you heal a player who kills a player: The AP you gain is only split between you and whoever else tagged that player (by healing the killer or helping to kill the player).

I hope this makes sense, idk how else to explain it.

TL;DR group = you split AP with useless scrubs and solo = you get to keep the AP that you leech

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

thanks! i will try solo

what about necrotic orb? i hear it also helps alot with ap gains
or AOE heal 1st ftom resto staff?

Molag_Crow · June 2016

Thanks btw Vinther, I might go and spam rapid regen later on my lvl 10 NB to get Vigor

Nifty2g · June 2016

Theres almost 10 on NA I think, EU has more, 1 of them had it last year

Vinther · June 2016

Whatever helps you to tag most players with protective buffs or heals or HoTs will net you the most AP gains. That's why rapid regen is such a great skill for it. You can do same with purifiyng ritual or healing circle or combat prayer or even vigor - whatever you can use to tag as many allies you can.

For biggest AP gains, just defend castles on heavily populated servers.

Set up a ballista and tag as many enemies as you can whilst standing close to the majority of your zerg allies and during each ballista reload also spamming rapid regen on them. Rinse and repeat and then jump down and repair the damaged walls until you get that juicy defensive tick on top of the AP you leeched.

Hands down the quickest way of AP in ESO.

NB! Kill a delve boss every 1 hour for the 20% AP gained buff too

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

great! i think ZOS need also add smthing like exp scrolls and ambrosia, but for AP

Vinther · June 2016

I disagree, I believe the AP system and Emperor system needs to be changed radically. Currently it's not the best players on top of leaderboards, but the people with least IRL duties who grind 24/7 and not even actually being good at pvp, but just leeching AP as I described previously.

That kills the whole competitive scene of AP ranks, leaderboard and emperorship imo.

DannyLV702 · June 2016

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

great! i think ZOS need also add smthing like exp scrolls and ambrosia, but for AP

You get extra AP for an hour after killing any random delve boss in Cyrodiil

Duiwel · June 2016

I prefer killing people you get 1,5k AP / kill for solo kills on average ( if the player hasn't died a couple of times already ) so you can easily get 200k a night if you PvP often.

Keep in mind OP while 323 days is accurate I didn't use your 3hour mark as reference I used the fact that you would get around 200 000k AP. Given that this game is over 2 years old, it's very easy to assume many people would have been at least halfway there before the AP requirement was lowered.

Second of all, this is not an achievement meant for EVERYONE, so stating that it's impossible when you just listed how to obtain it is false

Also keep in mind people who rush for EMP ect. They don't just play for 3 hours a day do they? They play more like 6+ JUST PvP .... EVERYDAY! ( insane? Yes, impossible? No )

So in conclusion if some average player made around 20k a night and then on weekends made 200k that player would have around +-10mil a year, so the average player ( non heal spammer ) would have around 10mil AP so even for them it's not impossible it will just take a couple of years

LastAmbushOnEarth · June 2016

@Vinther rapid regenreation - 16 seconds
mutagen - 20 seconds
how rapid regen can be better?

Vinther · June 2016

"If you or your allies fall below 20% Health, the Mutagen is consumed but heals for an immediate [y] Health and removes 1 harmful effect."

A lot of people drop low health often in too many scenarios all the time (ballista shots, bursts etc.)

So it keeps consuming itself from 30% of the targets you have affected before it manages to tick out (during an ideal zerg vs zerg scenario battle).

Also there was or maybe still is a bug where you could spam rapid regen without causing global cooldown, so you can truly go nuts with it provided you have enough cost reduction and regen.

Molag_Crow · June 2016

Tbh... I think there should be more meaningful ways of gaining decent AP rather than resorting to tagging as many allies as possible with your heals etc...

Wollust · June 2016

There is like 15-20 Grand Overlords on PC EU. Some of them reached it over a year ago.

Sunburnt_Penguin · June 2016

Molag_Crow wrote: »

LastAmbushOnEarth wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

I don't want to put anybody down, but Mutagen spammers can get Grand Overlord in a few months if they play a lot. Shame that it comes down to that, though.

@molag how so? mutagen can heal only 2 targets

you gaining ap if you heal some1 who was hurt by a player character, right?

They spam it so it'll go on all targets (works best on zergs) and every kill that the players make (with mutagen on them) shares the AP to the mutagen spammer.

There's someone well-known for doing it and they're already a Grand Overlord (on PS4) heh

I can't wait until he gets Emp, those OP Mutagen ticks