New Ideas for Mounts Training

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

I would like to see added:

1) A feature that allows us to train our mounts to fight alongside us.

2) The ability to teach our mount a single trait that will slightly boost up the player respectively.

3) The ability to pay a stable-master for the training of two horses, instead of one, in order to create a unique cross-bred mount; after both horses have reached a certain level. Your new horses will automatically be leveled up with the unique look you wanted and all the attributes of both steeds.

It's just an idea, and everything is open to debate of course. If you're not sure how it would work, I can shed further light on it.

susmitds · June 2016

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

I would like to see added:

1) A feature that allows us to train our mounts to fight alongside us.

2) The ability to teach our mount a single trait that will slightly boost up the player respectively.

3) The ability to pay a stable-master for the training of two horses, instead of one, in order to create a unique cross-bred mount; after both horses have reached a certain level. Your new horses will automatically be leveled up with the unique look you wanted and all the attributes of both steeds.

It's just an idea, and everything is open to debate of course. If you're not sure how it would work, I can shed further light on it.

1) Not possible due to engine limitations, which currently treat mounts as a mere animation extension.
2) That would add 60 or more days before which you can max out a character's combat potential.
3) All horses are trained at once. No, actually it is the rider who is trained in riding skill than the mounts themselves.

rhapsodious · June 2016

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

3) The ability to pay a stable-master for the training of two horses, instead of one, in order to create a unique cross-bred mount; after both horses have reached a certain level. Your new horses will automatically be leveled up with the unique look you wanted and all the attributes of both steeds.

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If you're not sure how it would work, I can shed further light on it.

Yes, I would like some further light shed: will you let me breed my Dro-m'Athra Senche with my Velothi Guar? I want a sparkle lizard. Logic be damned.

NewBlacksmurf · June 2016

I'm not sure on those ideas. If just like to be able to train my horse let's say 5-7 times at once vs once every day
So on item #3 no, but if you changed to multiple training, then yes

TheShadowScout · June 2016

Mounts as combat pets? Mounts empowering characters? Crossbreeding mounts? Sorry, doesn't sound like good ideas...

If anything, I'd want swimming training from the stables so the mounts don't disappear when they get their feet wet a little bit, or a jumping training that allow for longer mount jumps, or splitting the "stamina" into one stat to power gallopping, and another "toughness" stat to resist dismount on attack...

Or maybe a full "mounted combat" skill line for the riders with lance attacks, passives that only apply when mounted, etc.

Or all of the mentioned.

And of course, way more mount customization options. Most importantly, mount gear. Racial style saddles, bags, faceplates, etc. Maybe even some optional that gave extra boni... like the mount body slot giving you an option for the current banding to get an additional bit of speed, or a horse armor that detracts a lot of speed for added protection... or a choice of getting the full sized saddlebags for maximum capacity, or a slim version giving you just 40 slots, but more speed instead... that sort of thing...

Morimizo · June 2016

TheShadowScout wrote: »

If anything, I'd want swimming training from the stables so the mounts don't disappear when they get their feet wet a little bit, or a jumping training that allow for longer mount jumps, or splitting the "stamina" into one stat to power gallopping, and another "toughness" stat to resist dismount on attack...

Or maybe a full "mounted combat" skill line for the riders with lance attacks, passives that only apply when mounted, etc.

Or all of the mentioned.

And of course, way more mount customization options. Most importantly, mount gear. Racial style saddles, bags, faceplates, etc. Maybe even some optional that gave extra boni... like the mount body slot giving you an option for the current banding to get an additional bit of speed, or a horse armor that detracts a lot of speed for added protection... or a choice of getting the full sized saddlebags for maximum capacity, or a slim version giving you just 40 slots, but more speed instead... that sort of thing...

Great ideas, especially the swimming mount, which is actually a nice quality of life improvement in terms of dismounting/mounting less often while negotiating the terrain; how about also harvesting nodes while mounted? And instead of just jumping further, how about being able to fall further without getting hurt?

Customization, at least in terms of dyeing the current upgrades, would be fabulous.

And if someone is close enough to you to talk to you, maybe your mount's name could be shown on the nameplate? Would be better than the username...

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Mounts as combat pets? Mounts empowering characters? Crossbreeding mounts? Sorry, doesn't sound like good ideas...

If anything, I'd want swimming training from the stables so the mounts don't disappear when they get their feet wet a little bit, or a jumping training that allow for longer mount jumps, or splitting the "stamina" into one stat to power gallopping, and another "toughness" stat to resist dismount on attack...

Or maybe a full "mounted combat" skill line for the riders with lance attacks, passives that only apply when mounted, etc.

Or all of the mentioned.

And of course, way more mount customization options. Most importantly, mount gear. Racial style saddles, bags, faceplates, etc. Maybe even some optional that gave extra boni... like the mount body slot giving you an option for the current banding to get an additional bit of speed, or a horse armor that detracts a lot of speed for added protection... or a choice of getting the full sized saddlebags for maximum capacity, or a slim version giving you just 40 slots, but more speed instead... that sort of thing...

Your ideas went off the reservation, but my ideas aren't good? You want your mount to be trained to swim ... you are aware that horses don't need to be taught to swim, right? Obviously not.

I want to expound on the game mechanics that are already present in the game ... you want them to create an swimming animation. Lol - try again.

You want to have the stamina bar divided so you can resist being dismounted. So either your horse is being trained to do this or you've acquired through your mount. Sounds like somebody wants their mount to have a trait; but my ideas aren't good? That's Ringling Bros worthy.

Then you go further off topic of horse training, with talk of customization options. Mount gear, racial styles saddles, bags face plates? All these ideas have nothing to do with the thread.

LMAO- Then you type, "... like the mount body slot giving you an option for the current banding to get an additional bit of speed, or a horse armor that detracts a lot of speed for added protection... or a choice of getting the full sized saddlebags for maximum capacity, or a slim version giving you just 40 slots, but more speed instead ..."

Let me get this straight. Traits for a horse through training is a bad idea, but your suggestion of getting bonuses from the mount are right on the money? LOL

Every-single-thing you typed was an idea - oh, I'm sorry a "bad idea" according to your words - of getting something from your horse, I suspect via training. I can't tell, because you went off topic so much. You might want to work on your reading comprehension, because if it were keen, you would have realized you suggested overall (almost) the same damn thing I typed. That either makes you a copycat, ignorant, a troll or daft.

No hard feelings though, that crap just made me laugh, and I had to thank you for that. So ... thank you.

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

rhapsodious wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

3) The ability to pay a stable-master for the training of two horses, instead of one, in order to create a unique cross-bred mount; after both horses have reached a certain level. Your new horses will automatically be leveled up with the unique look you wanted and all the attributes of both steeds.

...

If you're not sure how it would work, I can shed further light on it.

Yes, I would like some further light shed: will you let me breed my Dro-m'Athra Senche with my Velothi Guar? I want a sparkle lizard. Logic be damned.

My bad for not being clear. I'll elaborate ... I was referring to horses or like species. To quote you, "logic be damned". I guess some people have to be told everything to come to a logical conclusion or best guess. A Guar mated with a Dro-m'Athra? Really? That's what you thought I meant? Are you sure you don't still think that the Easter Bunny puts eggs in your shoes, too, while you sleep? Are you hoping for pony from Santa this year?

See? I can be sarcastic, too.

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm not sure on those ideas. If just like to be able to train my horse let's say 5-7 times at once vs once every day
So on item #3 no, but if you changed to multiple training, then yes

Well, yeah, I was suggesting a multiple training feature. I'd, too, would like to have the option of paying more in-game gold to the Stable Master that would be the equivalent of purchasing 10 points from the Crown Store instead.

Nebthet78 · June 2016

I would just like to be able to either be able to level my horse to max in one day, or as a compromise level all three stats up once a day so it only takes 60 days to max it out instead of 180 on an alt, especially now that our level 50's become max level if we have CP.

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

I'm hoping that "One Tamriel", also translates to there being one training to max stats made necessary for all mounts on the players account.

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

susmitds wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

I would like to see added:

1) A feature that allows us to train our mounts to fight alongside us.

2) The ability to teach our mount a single trait that will slightly boost up the player respectively.

3) The ability to pay a stable-master for the training of two horses, instead of one, in order to create a unique cross-bred mount; after both horses have reached a certain level. Your new horses will automatically be leveled up with the unique look you wanted and all the attributes of both steeds.

It's just an idea, and everything is open to debate of course. If you're not sure how it would work, I can shed further light on it.

1) Not possible due to engine limitations, which currently treat mounts as a mere animation extension.
2) That would add 60 or more days before which you can max out a character's combat potential.
3) All horses are trained at once. No, actually it is the rider who is trained in riding skill than the mounts themselves.

1) Before the Dark Brotherhood DLC, was it possible to come up behind someone and cut their throat? Nope. So that point is shot down.

2) We are playing an MMO, after all, so where are we going? These type of genre games last for years and you're worried about two more months? That point is shot down.

3) Hence the request for horses to don a single trait of their own. This game is getting patched all the time. There is no reason why (at a later date in the near future) that two like species mounts can't be trained simultaneously to be combined in to a single mount of your preferred stature and color. A dye system, etc, etc.

The idea has never been done before in any MMO, and many players would love the personalized appearance of their mount, that goes beyond their gear. Besides it's no different from making poisons, potions, armor, weapons, clothes, food, and eventually spells. So please ... I wish people would stop spewing this nonsense about what the developers can't do. They can do anything (within reason) that the major community shows interest in, as long as it doesn't break the balance of the game. Do I need to say it? Or can anybody reading this realize that this suggestion is pure vanity? That point is shot down.

NordSwordnBoard · June 2016

Dyes for your mount? "Well, that's a horse of a different color!" Hey why not? Call it breeding/horse barber if you want to.

Imagine if you could run people down with your horse in PvP... Heavy Cavalry!
In a 1v1 battle, being the guy on the warhorse is a disadvantage, which is wrong imo.

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Do I need to say it? Or can anybody reading this realize that this suggestion is pure vanity? That point is shot down.

You are correct that all of these suggestions including your original post are in regards to esoteric concerns. It's true, this post is fueled by your own vanity, evident in how you respond to criticism as if it were an attack directly at your ego. Relax, man.

Gidorick · June 2016

I agree we need more from our mounts.

You might be interested in these:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159507/advanced-mounts-overhaul-concept/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/165659/tangible-mounts-advanced-concept/p1

Ethromelb14_ESO · June 2016

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

Dyes for your mount? "Well, that's a horse of a different color!" Hey why not? Call it breeding/horse barber if you want to.

Imagine if you could run people down with your horse in PvP... Heavy Cavalry!
In a 1v1 battle, being the guy on the warhorse is a disadvantage, which is wrong imo.

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Do I need to say it? Or can anybody reading this realize that this suggestion is pure vanity? That point is shot down.

You are correct that all of these suggestions including your original post are in regards to esoteric concerns. It's true, this post is fueled by your own vanity, evident in how you respond to criticism as if it were an attack directly at your ego. Relax, man.

Pot, kettle, and all that good stuff. I was actually relaxed the whole time I was typing. There's a difference between criticism and constructive criticism, that's intended to help the person improve themselves, their ideas, or creations. What I was offered was ridicule. Also it should be noted that I didn't ask anyone for their opinion. I simply wrote my ideas, and was replied to with sarcasm and negativity. Don't shed spotlight on my responses while ignoring the comments that influenced them. Thanks for caring, though.