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***Bethesda @ E3***
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L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭E3 is a luxury BS.
ESO sucks, we all know it, the day before E3, the E3 and the day after E3, ESO will still suck.
the lag will stay the same, loading screens will remain the same FPS drops, Sound Mutes and RNG will remain the same.
you dont need to be at E3 to know that xD
at E3, you will hear what you want to hear, i guarantee that. but that is it, you will hear you will be promised
but then again, you'll return to the same place you were at after you exit the delusion world you entered4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Conquistador wrote: »Failure of a game; I am done.
Kay bai have fun.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!4 -
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✭✭✭Conquistador wrote: »Failure of a game; I am done.
At least this great news came out of E3!Edited by DaveMoeDee on June 13, 2016 5:45AM4 -
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✭BoloBoffin wrote: »If you own Legendary edition on Steam (or have bought all DLC) you get Special edition upgrade for free on October 28. They said that on the Bethesda Twitter account.
YES
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✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »
BS. 7 milion copies of game sold and accounts created... from launch on pc. Still seems like a lot?Edited by sadownik on June 13, 2016 11:37AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Dooommmmm games going to die soon with that 7 million players.
Why do you think they just had a massive sale on the base game? I would wager that sometime next year the game goes free to play.
Subbing is worthwhile at this point, with all the DLC stuff and the crafting bag. I'll be honest... just the crafting bag is enough to make me sub. Hopefully they start making more and investing more back into the game.
I doubt that it goes free to play - because this would again lead to a storm of gold farmers and bots - which would not have to pay extra for an account and they could make any amount of accounts for free - this would not be any positive.1 -
pema✭✭✭I'm dissapointed there were no teasers what so ever...
They could have done some teasers...4 -
Thornen✭✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »
BS. 7 milion copies of game sold and accounts created... from launch on pc. Still seems like a lot?
Not really if you take Europe into account. Would be interesting to see how many active players they still have.2 -
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✭✭✭I said this in another thread so excuse the copy and paste
WoW is sub-based and has around 5-6 million subscribing (active). Although they lost 800,000 in three months last year. Just to show how crazy MMO numbers are and how much they can change. ESO isn't sub-based so 7 million accounts created or copies sold isn't very high as far as sales go
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Aeladiir✭✭✭✭✭I said this in another thread so excuse the copy and paste
WoW is sub-based and has around 5-6 million subscribing (active). Although they lost 800,000 in three months last year. Just to show how crazy MMO numbers are and how much they can change. ESO isn't sub-based so 7 million accounts created or copies sold isn't very high as far as sales go
Keep comparing it to a phenomenon. Maybe one day you will stop and compare it to the rest of the competition.1 -
Cazzy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I said this in another thread so excuse the copy and paste
WoW is sub-based and has around 5-6 million subscribing (active). Although they lost 800,000 in three months last year. Just to show how crazy MMO numbers are and how much they can change. ESO isn't sub-based so 7 million accounts created or copies sold isn't very high as far as sales go
Keep comparing it to a phenomenon. Maybe one day you will stop and compare it to the rest of the competition.
That's was...unnecessary.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Right now we have what basically amounts to three separate instances of each faction. The first is scaled to 1-50; the second scaled to c10-150, and the last scaled to c160, in order that each faction has a "first/second/third faction" progression.
So unless I'm missing something...is this taking three instances of each faction and dropping it down to one instance for everybody?
All that means to me is if there's good grind spots in the PvE zones, they'll now be chock full of people from all three factions.
Granted, everything will scale, so I suppose it opens up the first two factions back up for grinding.ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.1 -
Panth141✭✭✭✭✭Don't forget that in the after-show Matt said:
'We're working on a lot more things than we talked about tonight, so stay tuned to E3 coverage and we'll be talking about a lot of other things that you may be interested in besides what we talked about tonight.'
Source:
https://www.twitch.tv/bethesda/v/72129877
2:18:52PS4 EU - Panth141 | CP 630+Dominion
Almalexia's Fallen - Magicka Dragonknight - PvE Main
Lost Hope of Sotha Sil - Magicka Dragonknight - PvP Main
Claws-in-pockets - Stamina Nightblade - PvE/P DPS
Nocturnal's Guise - Magicka Nightblade - PvE DPS
Udun - Magicka Templar - PvP Healer
Onsi's Shattered Blade - Stamina Sorcerer - Dungeon/vMA Farmer
Stands-like-Mountains - Magicka Nightblade - PvE Saptank
Auri-El's Forgotten Light - Magicka Sorcerer - PvP DPS
Covenant
Tharkün - Magicka Sorcerer - PvE DPS
Rahai-Anaa - Stamina Dragonknight - Provisioner (lol)
Pact
Perolis - Magicka Sorcerer - Enchanter/Alchemist/BwB PvP1 -
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✭✭✭Don't forget that in the after-show Matt said:
'We're working on a lot more things than we talked about tonight, so stay tuned to E3 coverage and we'll be talking about a lot of other things that you may be interested in besides what we talked about tonight.'
Source:
https://www.twitch.tv/bethesda/v/72129877
2:18:52
That's kinda confuses me though. More people watched the conference. I'm just gonna wait for Quakecon
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The E3 previews didn't show much of anything. At all. Even for massive titles like Quake and Doom. It was mostly Fallout and Dishonored 2, plus a few trailers that did nothing to touch on any of the titles whatsoever. If anything, ERO's statistics trailer told more about the game than some of the other previews that went up.Conquistador wrote: »Failure of a game; I am done.
Did Skyrim get additional features, fixes or tweaks? Doom gets a few maps, but overall, nothing of was really shown in any sort of depth or meat about any of the titles displayed.0 -
I like this "One Tamriel" change. It will feel more 'real' if this term can be applied to a fantasy world. Only the fact how rich your skill set is what matters, not the stat numbers. And more sophisticated gear sets at higher levels, ofc.
They might think of removing level restrictions from crafted gear though. Tired of recrafting process every 3-4 levels.Edited by alex394053 on June 13, 2016 1:04PM0 -
C0wrex✭✭✭✭So much hate going on here
Can't we all just hug it out? "We are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will, to strive, to seek and not to yield."
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✭✭✭*much hugs*
I still think they've kept a lot back for Quakecon. I'd be very surprised if this was it 0 -
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Was watching some nerds on a Live Stream laughing about it. Said you must of ascended when it was over.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
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✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Dooommmmm games going to die soon with that 7 million players.
Why do you think they just had a massive sale on the base game? I would wager that sometime next year the game goes free to play.
Subbing is worthwhile at this point, with all the DLC stuff and the crafting bag. I'll be honest... just the crafting bag is enough to make me sub. Hopefully they start making more and investing more back into the game.
It already is free to play.They have subs as an option.I doubt seriously they will remove that choice.There are plenty of people who sub,dont think otherwise.
Just because some people here in the forums dont sub doesnt mean the majority of ingame players dont sub.We are a very few people who play the game.VERY few.
We arent what ZOS goes by when they want to gauge what their player base is or wants.Edited by Volkodav on June 14, 2016 9:14PM0 -
Aeladiir✭✭✭✭✭I said this in another thread so excuse the copy and paste
WoW is sub-based and has around 5-6 million subscribing (active). Although they lost 800,000 in three months last year. Just to show how crazy MMO numbers are and how much they can change. ESO isn't sub-based so 7 million accounts created or copies sold isn't very high as far as sales go
Keep comparing it to a phenomenon. Maybe one day you will stop and compare it to the rest of the competition.
That's was...unnecessary.
Unnecessary? Highly unlikely. The fact is that World of Warcraft is nothing but sheer phenomenon. The game was basically on the right place at the right time.
Everyone on this forum is whining about how low the number of players is, comparing the game to World of Warcraft, when they should be comparing it to the likes of Guild Wars 2 and Black Desert Online. Do you know how long it took for Guild Wars 2 to achieve 7 million unique accounts? 3+ years and a jump to free-to-play model. Noted that ESO achieved that due to the help from consoles, but it's a solid comparison. It's two of the most played MMOs out there. Black Desert Online, only a few months after its release, boasts with ~100k players online and the game is free-to-play in the East (I think). Final Fantasy 14 was sitting at 5 million at the end of last year.
Why is noone comparing it to Wildstar as well? Or Archeage? The latter amassed less than a million players and it's basically a free-to-play game. The first one held a subscription model for so long that it's empty-ish even now that it's free-to-play. Both of them were considered to be very promising. Where are they now? Wildstar is making its last stand by pretty much rereleasing itself for Steam, but if that doesn't work, it's soon going to wave goodbye. Blade & Soul had two million at its peak and it's free-to-play.
Vast majority of MMO games can DREAM of the numbers that ESO achieved (and will in the future). Even today's free-to-play games fail to achieve such high numbers when compared to unique accounts so @ZOS_MattFiror's statement that this is a huge achievement is pure fact, nothing else. Just ask yourselves: how many MMOs post-WoW era actually managed to achieve such high numbers? How many? Yeah, thought so.
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ESO is a major success in the genre, like it or not (and I know you're not hating on game, of course, I don't want to appear like some silly fanboy or a rude little *****, I just hate the fact that there's so many people comparing it to WoW). Here's a comparison to it: it's pretty obvious that ESO is ten times better than that nostalgic-driven title that is fueled by Blizzard-hyped fanboys who s*** on every other game, including ESO.
WoW has larger numbers? Lol, fine. WoW also has incredibly bad side quests and combat that could hardly be called combat. And it's a massive cash grab, *** people with a vanity cash shop and a subscription, which is something that people seem to ignore. OH WAIT?! ESO had a subscription and you could buy ONE horse for real money?????????????? HOW PERVERSE. THIS GAME IS UTTER BLOODY ****! I'm just baffled by the fact that Blizzard, such an obvious greedy company, actually gets away with their obvious cash-grabing policy, while only delivering uninnovative, grindy and poor story-driven content. And then it comes to ESO and there's thousands of people literally taking a **** on it, just because it's there, and people on the forums refer to Zenimax as ZO$. Yeah, right. The sheer ignorance is astonishing. Not only on the forums, but on the entire internet and YouTube community.
I've watched sooooo many E3 recap videos. So many. From Sterling to TB to some smaller channels (Sterling was actually pretty nice to it). Even the media was so freaking insulting to ESO, although that's partly because the american gaming press is actually the leading medium in the gaming industry and we all know american journalism - actual journalism - has been dead for centuries now. And people are not even discussing the fact that ESO is a highly above average success - it's all like: "Oh and then there came ESO and people finally had time to take a break and go to the bathroom." So mature and objective. From people who actually consider themselves "experts" in the industry. And then they say: "Uhhh, sure. I guess it must've improved. I just don't give a crap and I'll just keep bashing it."Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Dooommmmm games going to die soon with that 7 million players.
Why do you think they just had a massive sale on the base game? I would wager that sometime next year the game goes free to play.
Subbing is worthwhile at this point, with all the DLC stuff and the crafting bag. I'll be honest... just the crafting bag is enough to make me sub. Hopefully they start making more and investing more back into the game.
It already is free to play.They have subs as an option.I doubt seriously they will remove that choice.There are plenty of people who sub,dont think otherwise.
Just because some people here in the forums dont sub doesnt me an the majority of ingame players dont sub.We are a very few people who play the game.VERY few.
We arent what ZOS goes by when they want to gauge what their player base is or wants.
It's buy-to-play. Honestly, I wouldn't want to make the game free-to-play anytime soon if I was ZOS. I would just slowly decrease the buy price and slowly drop from 60$ to 40$ then to 20$ and leave it at that (depends on their sale charts, tbh - if they can afford to place the game on sale and then see that it's selling as expected, they can just leave it the way it is, tbh). Awesome DLCs are what's going to bring them money in the future, not vanilla content.Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
Was watching some nerds on a Live Stream laughing about it. Said you must of ascended when it was over.
I loved the screaming part. I took it as a big **** you to the people around and smiled all the way through it. The entire crowd, nowadays filled with bloggers and press, I would assume, should act more like that. More British theatre and less academy awards crowd, please.Edited by Aeladiir on June 14, 2016 9:09PM0 -
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Aeladiir✭✭✭✭✭You're missing the point of the comment. I was just refering to comparing the game to WoW, I don't really care what your account name is or what your relation to ESO is. Sorry if you think that I was actually attacking you in any way (I pointed that out specifically under rant).Edited by Aeladiir on June 14, 2016 10:30PM0
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✭✭✭You're missing the point of the comment. I was just refering to comparing the game to WoW, I don't really care what your account name is or what your relation to ESO is. Sorry if you think that I was actually attacking you in any way.
OK. Sorry if I misunderstood. I only supplied numbers to demonstrate how people come and go all the time (and how WoW are actually losing people who are joining ESO instead). I chose WoW because it was the biggest competitor. I agree that ESO have done amazing for one year, but I do also think that to continue to do well will mean customer feedback. Good and bad. Anyway...hug? 0
