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Class change coming any time in the future?

Sinolai
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It has been confirmed now that Zenimax will be offering Name, Class, Appearance, Alliance and Race change in near future. It's really nice to have these serivices, but the only thing I am not completely statisified with my character is the class (would like to switch from Sorcerer to Templar). That is pretty much the only thing they didn't announce to be changeable. Anyone know if they have even thought the idea of changing the class?
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    It's taking me 7 days to get from level 3 to 50 with just training weapons and armor, no exp boost consumables or the passive eso plus bonus. Some are able to do it much faster, on top of that there's no longer a Veteran level grind to hinder your development. I don't see a class change happening when its doable to level a new character within a week.
  • Acrolas
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    Yep. Sure. Can't stop at One Tamriel. In 2017, it'll be One Class where you swap between all four sets of skills.
    And Sorcerers will be mad that they can't put pets on the NB, DK, or TP bars, will ask ZOS to stop *** nerfing them into the ground.
    signing off
  • Pallio
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    1-50 is easy, und. daily grind, pvp , shards, mage books, horse training etc.......
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    It's taking me 7 days to get from level 3 to 50 with just training weapons and armor, no exp boost consumables or the passive eso plus bonus. Some are able to do it much faster, on top of that there's no longer a Veteran level grind to hinder your development. I don't see a class change happening when its doable to level a new character within a week.

    Don't forget that newly minted Vet characters have to get the requisite skill points ... and build said skills before they are CP160 worthy. Some players might still call that a "grind".

    High level characters that already have a lot of skill points and time invested would benefit the most from class change ... which is probably part of what the OP started the thread for.

    As for me, I am indifferent about class changes. Players should be able to change if they want to ... as long as it isn't every patch so they can be flavor of the month.
  • Wollust
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    I remember them saying that class change is not going to happen.
    Somewhere on the forums I believe it was, idk.
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  • Nestor
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    It is really easy to get a character to 50 these days. And, once there, if you have another character with 160CPs, they are at max level immediately.

    Instead of waiting for the Class Change, just make a new character in that class that you want to play.

    I am not sure if they will offer a class change for one reason only, a large number of players will be changing their class based on the Meta of the Week. Whether the Meta of the Week is valid or not is another thing entirely, but I can see Class changes happening as often as some people eat Purple Foods. While the changing itself is not such a bad thing from a theory standpoint, I have to wonder what it could do to the underlying systems in that a Class Change may not be as clean as we think it is on the surface, it may leave undesirable detritus in the save file that could cause issues.
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  • Sinolai
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    Pallio wrote: »
    1-50 is easy, und. daily grind, pvp , shards, mage books, horse training etc.......
    It's taking me 7 days to get from level 3 to 50 with just training weapons and armor, no exp boost consumables or the passive eso plus bonus. Some are able to do it much faster, on top of that there's no longer a Veteran level grind to hinder your development. I don't see a class change happening when its doable to level a new character within a week.
    Nestor wrote: »
    It is really easy to get a character to 50 these days. And, once there, if you have another character with 160CPs, they are at max level immediately.

    Instead of waiting for the Class Change, just make a new character in that class that you want to play.


    It is true that leveling from 1 to 50 is fast but training my horse again will take 180 days minium (most likely more) and moves like a snail for first 2 months. I have been researching traits over 2 years (12 days left to have every woodworking trait) and spent many hours collecting crafting motifs & skyshards (I have picked all of the skyshards in game) and PVP titles & skill points. I rather stay as sorcerer than do all this again.

    Edited by Sinolai on June 14, 2016 5:02AM
  • TheShadowScout
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    I do recall the powers that be stating that class change is something they never want to do for, while alliance change they are still not sure about but considering.
    I suppose we shall see. But I would not hold my breath, or even expect class change to ever come - no other MMORPG I ever played allowed class change after all... and of all the options, that one would seem most trouble to code...

    Personally the only way I could see them consider class changes was if they added entirely new classes. And I hope they never do that, instead wishing they would just add some way to expand the current classes, much like my Class Morph Idea...
  • clocksstoppe
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    Wollust wrote: »
    I remember them saying that class change is not going to happen.
    Somewhere on the forums I believe it was, idk.

    Until they see their profit projections if they'd implement it in crown store ;).
  • Mush55
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    Sinolai wrote: »
    It has been confirmed now that Zenimax will be offering Name, Class, Appearance, Alliance and Race change in near future. It's really nice to have these serivices, but the only thing I am not completely statisified with my character is the class (would like to switch from Sorcerer to Templar). That is pretty much the only thing they didn't announce to be changeable. Anyone know if they have even thought the idea of changing the class?

    Just make a new char 1/50 = 5 days or less if you go old orcinium and grind.
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    Nah, that would make the game not worth playing any more.

    I mean, come on, if you can change your race, class, name, alliance it is basically saying that you don't even have a true character anymore. That is equivalent to total equilization of every thing in the game. So no way!.
  • Sinolai
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    I do recall the powers that be stating that class change is something they never want to do for, while alliance change they are still not sure about but considering.
    I suppose we shall see. But I would not hold my breath, or even expect class change to ever come - no other MMORPG I ever played allowed class change after all... and of all the options, that one would seem most trouble to code...

    Personally the only way I could see them consider class changes was if they added entirely new classes. And I hope they never do that, instead wishing they would just add some way to expand the current classes, much like my Class Morph Idea...

    Since they are already offering race change, I don't see how class change would have any worse inpact than that. We can already change "class" between Werewolf and Vampire. The system can't be much harder to create than that.
    Wollust wrote: »
    I remember them saying that class change is not going to happen.
    Somewhere on the forums I believe it was, idk.

    Until they see their profit projections if they'd implement it in crown store ;).

    I would be ready to pay a few $ if that would allow me to become templar without collecting motifs, skyshards, traits and training my horse again. (Look Zeni! MONEY! :tongue: )
    Mush55 wrote: »
    Just make a new char 1/50 = 5 days or less if you go old orcinium and grind.

    I statet earlier that it takes 180 days to train your horse, lots of time to collect skyshards, skillpoints and motifs, and I have been researching weapon & armor traits for 2 years and only few months left to finish everything.
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    1-50 is not the problem. The problem is Cadwells Silver and Gold, leveling all the weapons, skills and morphs, Achievements, horse leveling etc.
    I can barely scrap together enough time to play my one character, let alown play a second. I´m sure most adult players have that problem.

    OnTopic:
    They haven`t even given use a barbershop or a namechange. I think it`s a very long way to something like classchange.

  • Sinolai
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Nah, that would make the game not worth playing any more.

    I mean, come on, if you can change your race, class, name, alliance it is basically saying that you don't even have a true character anymore. That is equivalent to total equilization of every thing in the game. So no way!.

    I would see it more like perfecting the one character you have been investing (For lore and role play, or for game play itself). We might have made some bad choices when we created the character and they come haunt us in the late game.
    Race and alliance change will probably be in crown store, barbershop is probably for game gold. I'd say put the class change in Crown Store too so that people wont be using it just to get the "flawor of the month" every time game is patched but it is there for those who dont want to waste their time while chasing perfection.
    Edited by Sinolai on June 14, 2016 9:04AM
  • Mush55
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    Sinolai wrote: »
    I do recall the powers that be stating that class change is something they never want to do for, while alliance change they are still not sure about but considering.
    I suppose we shall see. But I would not hold my breath, or even expect class change to ever come - no other MMORPG I ever played allowed class change after all... and of all the options, that one would seem most trouble to code...

    Personally the only way I could see them consider class changes was if they added entirely new classes. And I hope they never do that, instead wishing they would just add some way to expand the current classes, much like my Class Morph Idea...

    Since they are already offering race change, I don't see how class change would have any worse inpact than that. We can already change "class" between Werewolf and Vampire. The system can't be much harder to create than that.
    Wollust wrote: »
    I remember them saying that class change is not going to happen.
    Somewhere on the forums I believe it was, idk.

    Until they see their profit projections if they'd implement it in crown store ;).

    I would be ready to pay a few $ if that would allow me to become templar without collecting motifs, skyshards, traits and training my horse again. (Look Zeni! MONEY! :tongue: )
    Mush55 wrote: »
    Just make a new char 1/50 = 5 days or less if you go old orcinium and grind.

    I statet earlier that it takes 180 days to train your horse, lots of time to collect skyshards, skillpoints and motifs, and I have been researching weapon & armor traits for 2 years and only few months left to finish everything.

    Just use the char you have maxed your crafting on to craft dosn't impact on other chars I do this now. Your horse again no big problem just train it eveyday do you need to go everywhere at + 60% when way shrines are every where.

    Sky shards again cant see the problem just do delves and find whilst lvling your char as you wont need to craft you really wont need them all.

    No disrespect but you seem to want to have it all given to you on a plate without having to do what most of us have done and make another char.
  • Vangy
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    Get to lvl 15,

    Get training gear for 15, 25, 35
    Get x 10 psijic ambrosia.
    Go to google and look up ESO levelling guie 1-50, DC/EP/AD guide.
    Follow said trial and grind.

    I got 2 toons to 50 in a about 8 hours each. That's while munching on food, alt-tabbing to surf the net, etc etc. If you do a dedicated grind run, Im pretty sure you can get to 50 within 5-6 hours. New training gear + eso plus + psijic ambrosia/scroll is broken as F lol.

    The only other time consumer is mages guild to 10, and fighers guild to 10 in about a day with enough skyshards in about a day. Undaunted just do your daily pledge for a month and you will have undaunted 10. Pretty reasonable considering my old toons took months upon months of grinding to get to v16 lol.
    Edited by Vangy on June 14, 2016 9:14AM
    (2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
    (2)V16 Sorc- mag dps/stam dps
    (2)V16 nb- stam dps/mag dps
    (1)v16 temp- mag tank/mag dps
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  • Brrrofski
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    No, no, no to class change.

    Every patch everyone would just switch to FOTM builds. It would be terrible.
  • mb10
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    class change? just re-roll a character dont any of you play RP?

    You arent playing an Elder Scrolls game if youre so happy to just change race, alliance, appearance, class and everything else!

    Dont allow any of it to happen! Appearance should be the maximum
  • Nermy
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    Why would you ever want to change your class? Just roll a new toon.

    You'd have to level up all the skills in each tree anyway, so may as well level a toon at the same time.
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  • KingYogi415
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    NO NO NO!

    There must be a huge influx of new gamers, because all of these QQ carebear threads are getting out of control.

    Cheers!
  • Sinolai
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    Nermy wrote: »
    Why would you ever want to change your class? Just roll a new toon.

    You'd have to level up all the skills in each tree anyway, so may as well level a toon at the same time.

    I have 3 reasons:

    1. I like playing a support & heal unit but sorcerer is not a best pick for that. Some raid parties even kick me out becouse I don't have Luminous Shards
    2. Over the time I have formed a sotry about my character in my head. Templar class would be more fitting for the story. (this of course, can be re-written)
    3. I find Breton sorcerer a bit boring. When I first started I was going for stamina build sorcerer but due to race pick, the character was more optimal as spell caster and it feels too ordinary.

    For some reason everyone here is just telling how fast it is to level a new character to 50 no matter how many times I point out that it is not the character's lvl but the time, memories and accoplishments that matters to me.
    I have played this character for 2 years and I am not going to ditch it anymore to start over and creating my "perfect" character. If the class change is not going to happen I am going to stick with the sorc class and silence the voice that tells me to become templar ( I am the silencer of the dark brohterhood after all :tongue: ) But since they are already offering so many choices to be remade, I was wondering if this one is coming too. That is what the freedom is about.

    Hmmm.... or... since they are offering race change, I could change to imperial/red guard and become the warrior sorcerer I was planning from the start :smiley:
    Edited by Sinolai on June 14, 2016 10:12AM
  • Sinolai
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    Sinolai wrote: »
    It has been confirmed now that Zenimax will be offering Name, Class, Appearance, Alliance and Race change in near future. It's really nice to have these serivices, but the only thing I am not completely statisified with my character is the class (would like to switch from Sorcerer to Templar). That is pretty much the only thing they didn't announce to be changeable. Anyone know if they have even thought the idea of changing the class?

    I need to correct this statement a bit, seems like I have brain farted terribly:
    Confirmed that Appearance and race will be changeable
    Rumored that Name and Alliance will be following
    Class is not heard about, which is why I started this thread.
  • Mush55
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    Sinolai wrote: »
    Nermy wrote: »
    Why would you ever want to change your class? Just roll a new toon.

    You'd have to level up all the skills in each tree anyway, so may as well level a toon at the same time.

    I have 3 reasons:

    1. I like playing a support & heal unit but sorcerer is not a best pick for that. Some raid parties even kick me out becouse I don't have Luminous Shards
    2. Over the time I have formed a sotry about my character in my head. Templar class would be more fitting for the story. (this of course, can be re-written)
    3. I find Breton sorcerer a bit boring. When I first started I was going for stamina build sorcerer but due to race pick, the character was more optimal as spell caster and it feels too ordinary.

    For some reason everyone here is just telling how fast it is to level a new character to 50 no matter how many times I point out that it is not the character's lvl but the time, memories and accoplishments that matters to me.
    I have played this character for 2 years and I am not going to ditch it anymore to start over and creating my "perfect" character. If the class change is not going to happen I am going to stick with the sorc class and silence the voice that tells me to become templar ( I am the silencer of the dark brohterhood after all :tongue: ) But since they are already offering so many choices to be remade, I was wondering if this one is coming too. That is what the freedom is about.

    Hmmm.... or... since they are offering race change, I could change to imperial/red guard and become the warrior sorcerer I was planning from the start :smiley:

    The only problem here is one your makeing for yourself , if you want to play a templar make one, you still keep your sorc .

    I really cant see what the issue is? Why continue to play something your not happy with?

    Your sorc will still be there but you will have a new toon your happy with..

    Edit: as for memories even if you get class race change how will you have memories of what you achieved if your playing a totally different class that you havn't done anything with
    Edited by Mush55 on June 14, 2016 10:49AM
  • Nermy
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    Mush55 wrote: »
    Sinolai wrote: »
    Nermy wrote: »
    Why would you ever want to change your class? Just roll a new toon.

    You'd have to level up all the skills in each tree anyway, so may as well level a toon at the same time.

    I have 3 reasons:

    1. I like playing a support & heal unit but sorcerer is not a best pick for that. Some raid parties even kick me out becouse I don't have Luminous Shards
    2. Over the time I have formed a sotry about my character in my head. Templar class would be more fitting for the story. (this of course, can be re-written)
    3. I find Breton sorcerer a bit boring. When I first started I was going for stamina build sorcerer but due to race pick, the character was more optimal as spell caster and it feels too ordinary.

    For some reason everyone here is just telling how fast it is to level a new character to 50 no matter how many times I point out that it is not the character's lvl but the time, memories and accoplishments that matters to me.
    I have played this character for 2 years and I am not going to ditch it anymore to start over and creating my "perfect" character. If the class change is not going to happen I am going to stick with the sorc class and silence the voice that tells me to become templar ( I am the silencer of the dark brohterhood after all :tongue: ) But since they are already offering so many choices to be remade, I was wondering if this one is coming too. That is what the freedom is about.

    Hmmm.... or... since they are offering race change, I could change to imperial/red guard and become the warrior sorcerer I was planning from the start :smiley:

    The only problem here is one your makeing for yourself , if you want to play a templar make one, you still keep your sorc .

    I really cant see what the issue is? Why continue to play something your not happy with?

    Your sorc will still be there but you will have a new toon your happy with..

    I have to say I agree with this. You can roll a new toon that's exactly the same but a temp. You're still going to have to level all the skills. Or do you think you'll be gifted all the skills fully levelled?
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  • Sinolai
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    Nermy wrote: »
    Mush55 wrote: »
    Sinolai wrote: »
    Nermy wrote: »
    Why would you ever want to change your class? Just roll a new toon.

    You'd have to level up all the skills in each tree anyway, so may as well level a toon at the same time.

    I have 3 reasons:

    1. I like playing a support & heal unit but sorcerer is not a best pick for that. Some raid parties even kick me out becouse I don't have Luminous Shards
    2. Over the time I have formed a sotry about my character in my head. Templar class would be more fitting for the story. (this of course, can be re-written)
    3. I find Breton sorcerer a bit boring. When I first started I was going for stamina build sorcerer but due to race pick, the character was more optimal as spell caster and it feels too ordinary.

    For some reason everyone here is just telling how fast it is to level a new character to 50 no matter how many times I point out that it is not the character's lvl but the time, memories and accoplishments that matters to me.
    I have played this character for 2 years and I am not going to ditch it anymore to start over and creating my "perfect" character. If the class change is not going to happen I am going to stick with the sorc class and silence the voice that tells me to become templar ( I am the silencer of the dark brohterhood after all :tongue: ) But since they are already offering so many choices to be remade, I was wondering if this one is coming too. That is what the freedom is about.

    Hmmm.... or... since they are offering race change, I could change to imperial/red guard and become the warrior sorcerer I was planning from the start :smiley:

    The only problem here is one your makeing for yourself , if you want to play a templar make one, you still keep your sorc .

    I really cant see what the issue is? Why continue to play something your not happy with?

    Your sorc will still be there but you will have a new toon your happy with..

    I have to say I agree with this. You can roll a new toon that's exactly the same but a temp. You're still going to have to level all the skills. Or do you think you'll be gifted all the skills fully levelled?

    Only class skills would start from 1 if class change was possible. I would keep my 2h, 1h&shiled, destor&resto staves, armor skills, crafting skills ect.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Wollust wrote: »
    I remember them saying that class change is not going to happen.
    Somewhere on the forums I believe it was, idk.

    Actually they said it in an ESO Live, then it went viral on forums.
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  • Tryxus
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    Too bad

    Would've loved to change my DK to a NB as well :D
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