CALLING ALL AD TO COME TO HADERUS TO HELP STOP THE DC ZERG

Anazasi · June 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Awesome. I like it when K-hole is yellow.....

FENGRUSH · June 2016

AD wasnt having an issue of fighting too many numbers or with too few people.

holosoul · June 2016

^ Blue is just that good on "average" at all hours of the day

*rolls eyes*

That's why you started losing on TF too I bet, because blue is just "so" good (on average over 1000s of players) that they still win outnumbered

/reality check

Ishammael · June 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Ghost, can you please comment on rumors about red k-hole? The Lord ISHAMMAEL has been spotted in red. Surely this could not be?!

Ghostbane · June 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Ghost, can you please comment on rumors about red k-hole? The Lord ISHAMMAEL has been spotted in red. Surely this could not be?!

No idea what you are talking about. <swigs mead>

Ishammael · June 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Ghost, can you please comment on rumors about red k-hole? The Lord ISHAMMAEL has been spotted in red. Surely this could not be?!

No idea what you are talking about. <swigs mead>

....already five pints in.

antihero727 · June 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

AD wasnt having an issue of fighting too many numbers or with too few people.

I have a screenshot of the emp group with 40+ blue pugs Zerging our 22 person group. There was an issue with numbers being one sided. We tried to move away from the other yellow group but every time we did the emp + server would follow 3v1 to wipe us. We had com with the other group as soon as we left you followed. Please RP some more that your group of 8 was all alone and outnumbered.

holosoul · June 2016

Didn't you know!? His group of 8 happened to attack the keep 22 AD were defending, therefor blue is constantly outnumbered. The other 32 blue who were somewhere else on the map right then don't count, his 8 took the entire map by itself.

@FENGRUSH you being skilled does not mean your "entire faction" is skilled
To me every faction looks about the same skill level on average and all 3 of us do the same annoying crap as the other 2 and all 3 of us have farmable players and all 3 of us sometimes have the numbers advantage.

When you act delusional people who otherwise would have respected you lose their respect for your opinion.

holosoul · June 2016

If you act all surprised when your 8 manages to kill 20 people, it really diminishes your skill level doesn't it?
Being one of the best between all 3 factions, wouldn't you expect to win 8 v 20 in most cases? That doesn't mean your opponents are bad, it could just mean they are average. Otherwise, what are you?

Armitas · June 2016

Anazasi wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Awesome. I like it when K-hole is yellow.....

Not sure why but that sounds creepy.

Armitas · June 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

The Lord ISHAMMAEL has been spotted in red. Surely this could not be?!

YUS!!!! I was going to make a DC but Warmitas has been stuck at lvl 16 for months.

Karamis_Vimardon · June 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Ghost, can you please comment on rumors about red k-hole? The Lord ISHAMMAEL has been spotted in red. Surely this could not be?!

No idea what you are talking about. <swigs mead>

....already five pints in.

Whos round is it next?

FENGRUSH · June 2016

Wasnt triyng to trigger anyone, just saying yellow wasnt losing because they were being 'zerged by the blue faction'. Most of the 20 man groups were held off by Essa and Lord FENGRUSH. That covers pretty much all AD attempts at offense outside of their windows where theyre pushing at night.

antihero727 · June 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Wasnt triyng to trigger anyone, just saying yellow wasnt losing because they were being 'zerged by the blue faction'. Most of the 20 man groups were held off by Essa and Lord FENGRUSH. That covers pretty much all AD attempts at offense outside of their windows where theyre pushing at night.

IDK where you were at but we were outnumbered 2-1 3-1 most of the night. Unless we fought next to the other yellow group then the numbers were closer. If you want to promote smaller groups stop Zerg surfing with 40+ emp group. Yes you did, I was there. If that's how DC wants to do it then so will we but don't come to the fourms crying about the yellow Zerg again. I thought of you as more than a @King_big_turd trash talker but you are changing my mind everyday. The salt sells subs but doesn't do it for the long haul.

Lyar09 · June 2016

AD zergs the map for 2-3 months, DC just enjoys the AP gains and doesn't say anything. DC actually has numbers for once, AD loses their shizz and complains about it in a thread made by EP and make their own threadlol

You can't make this up! Very comical

Makkir · June 2016

because AD did this same thing the last dozen cycles. I know this because I filmed the majority of my 1vX videos on Haderus...aka BADerus.

forzajuve212 · June 2016

Just to clarify, a small man group doesn't count as a 6 man group zerg surfing 30 other blues, that's called zerging. Stop trying to act like it's otherwise. Just because you aren't in the same group as them or the same TS as them doesn't make you any better or possess some kind of moral high ground. It's straight up hypocritical if you say otherwise.

Like I said in a different thread, my group doesn't playing Haderus anymore and hasn't for over 2 months now. Too many AD and not enough organized guild groups to fight. So I'm not sharing the sentiment of the OP in this thread, just making an analysis based on the 1 night we ran there last weekend.

Satiar · June 2016

Buff server problems!

Ishammael · June 2016

Karamis_Vimardon wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Ghost, can you please comment on rumors about red k-hole? The Lord ISHAMMAEL has been spotted in red. Surely this could not be?!

No idea what you are talking about. <swigs mead>

....already five pints in.

Whos round is it next?

Pretty sure Sen is up next

PrinceFabious · June 2016

Guys! Dont tell Fengrush that there are like 30 fanboys following his group! I kinda like this secret.

Ghostbane · June 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Karamis_Vimardon wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I hear that K-hole and F-hole are simply enjoying the benefits of zerg faction against the weak and timid on HAD. The hold all the scrolls and emp to gain an unfair advantage against 20 AD that try to play and have fun on HAD. The only guild that has any leadership is DD and they spend most of the time in trials. I lost track of the other guild that was doing good pug work when DB came out. DK stayed for the first week on HAD but out 16 man groups couldn't stand up to the 40 DC zerg that ran around the map all the time.

Shame though I'm sure some DC twitch streamers are having fun.

K-Hole was on their ADs on Saturday in Haderus, otherwise PVE'ing like pros.

Ghost, can you please comment on rumors about red k-hole? The Lord ISHAMMAEL has been spotted in red. Surely this could not be?!

No idea what you are talking about. <swigs mead>

....already five pints in.

Whos round is it next?

Pretty sure Sen is up next

I'll have a Harvey Wallbanger with a Stonefalls umbrella.

zyk · June 2016

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Just to clarify, a small man group doesn't count as a 6 man group zerg surfing 30 other blues, that's called zerging. Stop trying to act like it's otherwise. Just because you aren't in the same group as them or the same TS as them doesn't make you any better or possess some kind of moral high ground. It's straight up hypocritical if you say otherwise.

ESO players do not let facts get in the way of grandiose narratives. Especially "elite" small man groups and guilds who play on buff servers full of randoms in search of "good fights". This is usually the case for both Khole and Fengrush.

The best part is when they intentionally seek out large groups of random/less organized/less optimized players and then complain about getting zerged.

I'm not complaining though. At this point in the game, the blatant hypocrisy is probably the best entertainment.

forzajuve212 · June 2016

zyk wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Just to clarify, a small man group doesn't count as a 6 man group zerg surfing 30 other blues, that's called zerging. Stop trying to act like it's otherwise. Just because you aren't in the same group as them or the same TS as them doesn't make you any better or possess some kind of moral high ground. It's straight up hypocritical if you say otherwise.

ESO players do not let facts get in the way of grandiose narratives. Especially "elite" small man groups and guilds who play on buff servers full of randoms in search of "good fights". This is usually the case for both Khole and Fengrush.

The best part is when they intentionally seek out large groups of random/less organized/less optimized players and then complain about getting zerged.

I'm not complaining though. At this point in the game, the blatant hypocrisy is probably the best entertainment.

I just cannot stand this DC narrative of "oh my god we are always outnumbered and never zerg and 1vX ball groups".

And just to clarify, i'm not talking about K-hole. I have nothing but respect for them, they are the best group in this game. My gripe is with fengrush, who has this fixation that he is 1vxing in the center of 30 people with an emp. I have nothing against 1vXers or small man, in fact I like all types of PVP, those included. The problem I have is the predominantly DC idea that they are smashing hordes with their small groups and their small groups alone.

dashima · June 2016

So, lately a lot of people from Haderus have been leaking over into TF and I was wondering what was going on. When I asked, they said that Haderus was dead because of DC (and I clearly remember last time I was there it was overrun with AD) so I decided to take a look...

This was at around 5-6 PM EST on Friday.

Found many "top" DC players and the emperor camping our last keep, chasing down single players who tried to take a resource, and groups of over 20 dc puglings at our spawn point.

Posting the pop count, because someone asked:

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Wasnt triyng to trigger anyone, just saying yellow wasnt losing because they were being 'zerged by the blue faction'. Most of the 20 man groups were held off by Essa and Lord FENGRUSH. That covers pretty much all AD attempts at offense outside of their windows where theyre pushing at night.

Nice 2vX, clearly we were outplayed:

Anyway, I don't really have a strong opinion on this because I don't play in Had but it's never a good feeling to see supposed top players doing this kind of thing and then stating "because AD did it" and then having the nerve to say "1vX." You guys are organized groups of elites. The AD who capped the map constantly before were pugs. There's a difference, and it's also a pretty petty excuse anyway. That's not a healthy, competitive PvP environment and is no better than those massive raids of AD from months ago. Not blaming anyone or DC in particular, but take it for what you will.

For the AD/EP suffering, please feed on this glorious image and stay strong:

FENGRUSH · June 2016

antihero727 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

AD wasnt having an issue of fighting too many numbers or with too few people.

Please RP some more that your group of 8 was all alone and outnumbered.

antihero727 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Wasnt triyng to trigger anyone, just saying yellow wasnt losing because they were being 'zerged by the blue faction'. Most of the 20 man groups were held off by Essa and Lord FENGRUSH. That covers pretty much all AD attempts at offense outside of their windows where theyre pushing at night.

IDK where you were at but we were outnumbered 2-1 3-1 most of the night.

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Just to clarify, a small man group doesn't count as a 6 man group zerg surfing 30 other blues, that's called zerging.

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Guys! Dont tell Fengrush that there are like 30 fanboys following his group! I kinda like this secret.

The reality is - most of the AD wont watch these clips or comment on them (denial is a powerful drug) - but take your pick from any highlights I just cut out from this weekend. Youll note the above quotes are futile attempts to diminish The Lord FENGRUSH and his companions.

The evidence is there - we just need @Publius_Scipio to tell the rest of this story now. I wish you good fortunes in the battles to come AD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kd4qNLhZ1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NoK3zIvW2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eam-erjQwLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mmu8c23--U#t=2m33s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKidZx_ekg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0bQHm8fjjs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByHlelVnFkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1s_pTdYPs

forzajuve212 · June 2016

dashima wrote: »

So, lately a lot of people from Haderus have been leaking over into TF and I was wondering what was going on. When I asked, they said that Haderus was dead because of DC (and I clearly remember last time I was there it was overrun with AD) so I decided to take a look...

This was at around 5-6 PM EST on Friday.

Found many "top" DC players and the emperor camping our last keep, chasing down single players who tried to take a resource, and groups of over 20 dc puglings at our spawn point.

Posting the pop count, because someone asked:

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Wasnt triyng to trigger anyone, just saying yellow wasnt losing because they were being 'zerged by the blue faction'. Most of the 20 man groups were held off by Essa and Lord FENGRUSH. That covers pretty much all AD attempts at offense outside of their windows where theyre pushing at night.

Nice 2vX, clearly we were outplayed:

Anyway, I don't really have a strong opinion on this because I don't play in Had but it's never a good feeling to see supposed top players doing this kind of thing and then stating "because AD did it" and then having the nerve to say "1vX." You guys are organized groups of elites. The AD who capped the map constantly before were pugs. There's a difference, and it's also a pretty petty excuse anyway. That's not a healthy, competitive PvP environment and is no better than those massive raids of AD from months ago. Not blaming anyone or DC in particular, but take it for what you will.

For the AD/EP suffering, please feed on this glorious image and stay strong:

This. I don't play Haderus enough to have a comprehensive opinion of the server but from what I did play, the hypocrisy is just hilarious.

FENGRUSH · June 2016

zyk wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Just to clarify, a small man group doesn't count as a 6 man group zerg surfing 30 other blues, that's called zerging. Stop trying to act like it's otherwise. Just because you aren't in the same group as them or the same TS as them doesn't make you any better or possess some kind of moral high ground. It's straight up hypocritical if you say otherwise.

ESO players do not let facts get in the way of grandiose narratives. Especially "elite" small man groups and guilds who play on buff servers full of randoms in search of "good fights". This is usually the case for both Khole and Fengrush.

The best part is when they intentionally seek out large groups of random/less organized/less optimized players and then complain about getting zerged.

I'm not complaining though. At this point in the game, the blatant hypocrisy is probably the best entertainment.

I went to trueflame - I lagged pretty bad, but nothing like last patch. Lag overall has been much improved this patch, but when streaming - I prefer to avoid lag. With that said, Ive been on Had and back at the game just for a couple weeks. If AD is sending less organized or optimized players, I cant really help that.

Sorry for being a hypocrite slaying full raids with a 4 man group.

forzajuve212 wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Just to clarify, a small man group doesn't count as a 6 man group zerg surfing 30 other blues, that's called zerging. Stop trying to act like it's otherwise. Just because you aren't in the same group as them or the same TS as them doesn't make you any better or possess some kind of moral high ground. It's straight up hypocritical if you say otherwise.

ESO players do not let facts get in the way of grandiose narratives. Especially "elite" small man groups and guilds who play on buff servers full of randoms in search of "good fights". This is usually the case for both Khole and Fengrush.

The best part is when they intentionally seek out large groups of random/less organized/less optimized players and then complain about getting zerged.

I'm not complaining though. At this point in the game, the blatant hypocrisy is probably the best entertainment.

I just cannot stand this DC narrative of "oh my god we are always outnumbered and never zerg and 1vX ball groups".

And just to clarify, i'm not talking about K-hole. I have nothing but respect for them, they are the best group in this game. My gripe is with fengrush, who has this fixation that he is 1vxing in the center of 30 people with an emp. I have nothing against 1vXers or small man, in fact I like all types of PVP, those included. The problem I have is the predominantly DC idea that they are smashing hordes with their small groups and their small groups alone.

Im actually more of a group player than a 1vXer - if youve known me you would know this well. Ive always led small groups since beta. 1vXing really comes out of 'hey, theres no one else online' and also at a point in 1.6 many posts on my videos said I couldnt do my build solo and I was only being carried. Proved otherwise 1vXing from time to time.

I havent had time to 1vX with the amount of action on Had - its been spectacular actually. Having the most fun Ive had in ESO in the longest time.

Heres a 1vX for you - nothing too great. But thats about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jimlLp6e6_g

FENGRUSH · June 2016

forzajuve212 wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

So, lately a lot of people from Haderus have been leaking over into TF and I was wondering what was going on. When I asked, they said that Haderus was dead because of DC (and I clearly remember last time I was there it was overrun with AD) so I decided to take a look...

This was at around 5-6 PM EST on Friday.

Found many "top" DC players and the emperor camping our last keep, chasing down single players who tried to take a resource, and groups of over 20 dc puglings at our spawn point.

Posting the pop count, because someone asked:

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Wasnt triyng to trigger anyone, just saying yellow wasnt losing because they were being 'zerged by the blue faction'. Most of the 20 man groups were held off by Essa and Lord FENGRUSH. That covers pretty much all AD attempts at offense outside of their windows where theyre pushing at night.

Nice 2vX, clearly we were outplayed:

Anyway, I don't really have a strong opinion on this because I don't play in Had but it's never a good feeling to see supposed top players doing this kind of thing and then stating "because AD did it" and then having the nerve to say "1vX." You guys are organized groups of elites. The AD who capped the map constantly before were pugs. There's a difference, and it's also a pretty petty excuse anyway. That's not a healthy, competitive PvP environment and is no better than those massive raids of AD from months ago. Not blaming anyone or DC in particular, but take it for what you will.

For the AD/EP suffering, please feed on this glorious image and stay strong:

This. I don't play Haderus enough to have a comprehensive opinion of the server but from what I did play, the hypocrisy is just hilarious.

And if you think a screenshot of a map and groups at a keep that has nothing to do with me is an accurate way to depict the hypocrisy of my group, there is nothing else I can really offer you. Check the clips I posted, they tell a story of numbers and battles that actually occurred. If were still hypocrites after that - let me know how.

Thanks.

zyk · June 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

I went to trueflame - I lagged pretty bad, but nothing like last patch. Lag overall has been much improved this patch, but when streaming - I prefer to avoid lag. With that said, Ive been on Had and back at the game just for a couple weeks. If AD is sending less organized or optimized players, I cant really help that.

Sorry for being a hypocrite slaying full raids with a 4 man group.

That's not impressive to me. We've been watching videos of ESO enthusiasts roll players they outclass since launch. Yawn. I want to see the Warriors vs the Cavs, not the Warriors vs a high school gym class.

Xexpo · June 2016

Mmmm... salty bananas , delicious !