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Is it just me or does WW seem a bit to Over tuned (video)
NativeJoe
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I mean... he literally has infinite WW mode x.x which is just about as bad as if I had infinite Overload mode.
I mean... he literally has infinite WW mode x.x which is just about as bad as if I had infinite Overload mode.
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I mean... he literally has infinite WW mode x.x which is just about as bad as if I had infinite Overload mode.
only good in solo stuff tbh. try that perma upkeep in group dungeons or pvp, aint as easy as you thinkPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭lookstwice wrote: »Leave it as is. I'm having a blast with WW form.
I agree it must be super fun. I'm not saying to change much... but it does seem a tad overturned... I mean you can LIVE inside the form lol.650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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✭✭✭✭✭lookstwice wrote: »Leave it as is. I'm having a blast with WW form.
I agree it must be super fun. I'm not saying to change much... but it does seem a tad overturned... I mean you can LIVE inside the form lol.
As far as end game PvE is concerned, you would be doing much lesser damage in it than outside it unlike Overload so it's perfectly fine currently.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭As a stamblade who does mostly PvE, when I'm in werewolf form even just my light attacks hit mobs like a TRUCK.ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.0 -
As a console player I am looking forward to the changes the DB patch brings to WW. Is it as much fun as I hope?0 -
NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »It seems like it should last a while, so to be able to use the pets?
What was your question fellow pet sorc?
IT should last a while. it is expensive. but indefinetly? idk, give me the ability to generate ultimate the more im hit in overload mode and we'll call it even haha650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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Farorin✭✭✭✭✭WW is strong currently, but it has enough drawbacks to make it balanced.
PVE:
As someone mentioned, with a lot of builds WW DPS optimization can take a hit
Timer stops you from interacting and acting "normal" because if you spend to long doing something, you will de-wolf
In group content, WW is not as good apart from potentially as a DPS, completely useless for a tank or healer, and other DPS without using WW form and using other ultimates instead can do the job of DPS just as good, if not better.
It takes up an ultimate slot which could be used for arguably better synergies or general usefulness.
PVP:
Going wolf instantly makes everyone target you, as you are easier to spot and distinguish from others
Increased damage from poisons, which come from some very common skills, such as skills from the bow, from stam DKs, and from weapon enchants.
It is a lot harder to manage the timer in PVP due to lack of NPC mobs, and due to players respawning before devour can finish
The only strictly defensive ability a WW has scales off of magicka, considering everything else scales off of stamina, it is usually quite weak, and a minor stall at best.
There is often so much walking and movement from battle to battle that it is literally impossible to maintain WW in cyrodiil going from one keep capture or defense, to another, thus at least SOME fighting has to be done outside of WW form.
It takes up an ultimate slot thus you can't use many of the better ultimates for PVP.
These are just some off the top of my head.0 -
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✭✭✭✭It isn't overtuned. In a duel, which isn't real combat, it can be strong because you are obligated to stay near him and fight him. By fighting him you increase his WW timer. However, in actual combat you could just bolt escape a few times and come back once he loses his transformation.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭WW is strong currently, but it has enough drawbacks to make it balanced.
PVE:
As someone mentioned, with a lot of builds WW DPS optimization can take a hit
Timer stops you from interacting and acting "normal" because if you spend to long doing something, you will de-wolf
In group content, WW is not as good apart from potentially as a DPS, completely useless for a tank or healer, and other DPS without using WW form and using other ultimates instead can do the job of DPS just as good, if not better.
It takes up an ultimate slot which could be used for arguably better synergies or general usefulness.
PVP:
Going wolf instantly makes everyone target you, as you are easier to spot and distinguish from others
Increased damage from poisons, which come from some very common skills, such as skills from the bow, from stam DKs, and from weapon enchants.
It is a lot harder to manage the timer in PVP due to lack of NPC mobs, and due to players respawning before devour can finish
The only strictly defensive ability a WW has scales off of magicka, considering everything else scales off of stamina, it is usually quite weak, and a minor stall at best.
There is often so much walking and movement from battle to battle that it is literally impossible to maintain WW in cyrodiil going from one keep capture or defense, to another, thus at least SOME fighting has to be done outside of WW form.
It takes up an ultimate slot thus you can't use many of the better ultimates for PVP.
These are just some off the top of my head.
Eh wasn't saying it was incredibly OP or anything. was just flabbergasted that He NEVER left the ww form, and he never would. and with malubeth he was certainly able to tank, fear, dps, and slaughter groups by the droves alone. seen it first hand with alot of WW builds this patch. Not going to mention any names here because I was asked not to record them or mention them...but I will say they're builds are pretty much invulnerable to no less the 4 people at once, and they can certainly handle the regular rabble by the truck load.
But I get it, everyone loves WW haha... I'll just have to figure out how to adapt to it some way. I just can't help but feel it is a little overtuned
Maybe I should make one myself... *thinks deeply* 650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm just curious how does a sorc have 40k magicka, 29k Health and 12k stamina?
i have that, and have 3.4k sd buffed lol magicka sorc here, and i use 5/5 heavy armor. its not that hard, correction 37.6k magicka but i also have 17k staminaEdited by OGLezard on June 13, 2016 12:33AM0 -
ElranSoul ShrivenYou can easily keep your form up if you constantly take damages (passive skill), what the sorc's pet do
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Cronopoly✭✭✭✭✭The Sorcs Pets were really keeping him up alot longer than normal due to the mechanics of them hitting him.
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✭✭✭✭✭Werewolf was overtuned when they decided to give it over 10k resistance and since fighters guild no longer really grants a passive damage bonus.... I think WW falls in the same category as Radiant Destruction, Overload and snipe. Lethal when you are outnumbered and rather easy to handle in a 1v1. WW however is also very very strong in 1v1, but manageable somehow.
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They nerfed as well before pack leader can be in werewolf for ever in a 1 vs 1 but now they get 2 wolfs instead. Plus fighters guild made vamps and ww made it to easy to kill.
What we have now high cost ultment does decent damage with weaker fighters guild but less way extend ww is now more balance.0
