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Should ZoS Revamp Old Zones?
Panda_iMunch
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With ZoS making more and more elaborate and detailed zones and areas, the old one's have been left to the past and really haven't been given a whole lot of love. Seeing as the game needs to have a good solid foundation to really keep it self going, it would not be a bad idea to give some love to the old zones. This could take the form of new quests, more detailed and unique environments, improved clutter, and so forth. With that, I ask: Should ZoS revamp old areas?
Edited by Panda_iMunch on June 11, 2016 5:04PM Should ZoS Revamp Old Zones? 131 votes
Yes
51%
67 votes
No
32%
43 votes
Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or race
16%
21 votes
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoNo need generally, but Craglorn is a separate case and should be revamped to reflect the fact that people no longer go there for grouped adventuring.9 -
Panda_iMunch✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or raceNo need generally, but Craglorn is a separate case and should be revamped to reflect the fact that people no longer go there for grouped adventuring.
I know it's not needed per say, but I think it would really help this game live on to the future as well as give something new to do. You can't really expect a good outcome putting your old foot first. On a different note, I think they said they had something speical for Craglorn in the future.0 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or raceIt never hurts to keep the base game updated and ZOS has done that in the past . They changed the intro quest . Giving players a reason to go back with a new race or class is even better . I'm always for maintaining an entire game and not forgetting old areas .2 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesI think they should revamp the old zones. Or rather they should revamp the level 50 versions of the old zones to reflect the impact of our battle with Molag Bal and allow for cross-faction play in the revamped zones (PvE only).2 -
Aektann✭✭✭✭YesJust add lvl scaling feature like in DLC zones (and revamp Craglorn). No need new quest or more detailed areas (it is a ton of work , which simply do not need to deal with , so the old zone is quite interesting as they are now).4 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or raceIf heavy revamps were made for existing zones, I would have no issues with it as long as a new class+ one or more other Major features (spellcrafting, barbershop,etc) arrived too.
This would happen instead of a new zone arriving for one quarter.
No problem I could possibly imagine with making all of those zones more awesome!Edited by Vaoh on June 11, 2016 5:21PM0 -
Yinmaigao✭✭✭✭✭
✭:in best Clinton voice:
Well, my friends, we must first define the word "revamp".1 -
Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭No.... The people asking for a "new Class" or "new Race (yea, what new existing race you thinking about?)" ... when the current ones are still being constantly re-worked in.
Damm those OP sorcerers and templars, and argonians.... Mai cave. >:31 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or raceOne old zone in particular I'd like to see revamped is Cyrodiil
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Moonscythe✭✭✭✭✭YesI don't think it should require a new class or race. Some window dressing and a few changes in the landscape, maybe a new delve or dungeon opened in some of the ruins though would be good. Players do start new characters from scratch and now just fly through leveling as fast as they can; a change to encourage reacquainting themselves with the area would be a good thing. It could be gradual and maybe even unannounced beyond a hint in patch notes much like the improved animations and more detailed, better coloured clothing on NPCs. Just last night I went back to the Harborage in Vulkhel Guard and ran down the beach to the outlaw refuge and noticed that the crabs are finally running flat on the ground after forever being tilted.Scura di Notte - Altmer Nightblade (gear)
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Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesYes but only for the Cadwells gold and silver quests so that you aren't doing the same quests you'd be doing if you created characters in those factions. You'd quest in the same zones, but with different quests. I think that would help make the initial play through feel unique without limiting players to only one faction zone should they choose to play just one character.
Perhaps ZOS could consider adopting Bethesda's radiant questing for Cadwell's gold and silver thus insuring a unique experience each time.Edited by Tabbycat on June 11, 2016 5:34PMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or race:in best Clinton voice:
Well, my friends, we must first define the word "revamp".
merriam-webster.com/dictionary/revamp
I for one think this would be a good idea as long as theres a new class but not race.https://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYou know what bothers me?
They add some pretty cool new animals, but they don't add them to zones where it would make a lot of sense for them to be. Like Nixads, who could inhabit forests in other maps, or Dire Wolves, who could show up sometimes in areas where normal wolves are.
I would also like to see downscalling being introduced to the low level areas of the game, though I think I'm in the minority here. It is the one thing I miss from GW2, because then all the areas of the map kept being relevant to high level players. This way, ANet could add new stuff to older areas and high level players could enjoy it without one-shooting everything or making a new character.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.5 -
JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoThere's only so many people in the team and I would rather they focus on new things (barring Craglorn, PVP) rather than going over old stuff.Sweetrolls for all!
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Ethromelb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or raceThey need to "revamp" vamps - Make them scarier. Let them have fangs like Vincente Valtieri.Motto: Make deceivers believers.
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoPanda_iMunch wrote: »No need generally, but Craglorn is a separate case and should be revamped to reflect the fact that people no longer go there for grouped adventuring.
I know it's not needed per say, but I think it would really help this game live on to the future as well as give something new to do. You can't really expect a good outcome putting your old foot first. On a different note, I think they said they had something speical for Craglorn in the future.
I think the better solution is to add new content at all levels of the game, rather than just at the endgame (which is the only time it curently makes sense to do the various DLCs notwithstanding the scaling as otherwise you simply out-level the base game more than is already the case) so players have a choice of content, rather than simple revamping the original content which still leaves a single fixed line of progression per alliance.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoAdjustments would be welcome to silver and gold as well as Craglorn but all is fine as is-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesI wish open world combat got revamped after completion. Then got extremely hard and required a friend or friends to go complete a daily quest. Many MMO's i used to play had open world like "hardcore" area's where you would have very hard enemys to kill and a big boss that would spawn after awhile when you killed there. These places were the best to grind but in the end were fun since the battle's were long and not short.
I'd like to see daily's bring me around the map of tamriel to fight difficult enemy's that are open world.Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on June 11, 2016 7:39PMPS4 NA DC2 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoNo.
First it is working. Let us not push our luck.
Second, how long did it take them to do the tiny area of The Gold Coast? You want them spending that much time revamping the giant area of the original game?
Third the end.2 -
Panda_iMunch✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or racePanda_iMunch wrote: »No need generally, but Craglorn is a separate case and should be revamped to reflect the fact that people no longer go there for grouped adventuring.
I know it's not needed per say, but I think it would really help this game live on to the future as well as give something new to do. You can't really expect a good outcome putting your old foot first. On a different note, I think they said they had something speical for Craglorn in the future.
I think the better solution is to add new content at all levels of the game, rather than just at the endgame (which is the only time it curently makes sense to do the various DLCs notwithstanding the scaling as otherwise you simply out-level the base game more than is already the case) so players have a choice of content, rather than simple revamping the original content which still leaves a single fixed line of progression per alliance.
Of course they should always add more to all aspects to the game with the added benefit to allow for more choice. What I'm trying to elude to is that ZoS should work on the old zones to make them like proper end game content. As of now, the faction zones, which make up most of the content in the game as is, are a little underwhelming and easy to move beyond. So maybe they should allow for scaling of some kind in both directions as well as flush it out more to grip new and old players into the world. That can only help new players want to play the game more as well as give incentives to old players to go back.0 -
Panda_iMunch✭✭✭✭Yes, but they should add something new to level, like a class or racevyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »No.
First it is working. Let us not push our luck.
Second, how long did it take them to do the tiny area of The Gold Coast? You want them spending that much time revamping the giant area of the original game?
Third the end.
It's revamping, which is a lot less time consuming than coming up with a new plot, land mass, quests, gear, item sets, voice acting, animations and so on. They just use what they learned to patch up old areas to the new standard they've made1 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesI'd be fine with simply making everything battle leveled, so you can do any content regardless of level. I mean, in single player TES games it was still fun to go on the quests regardless of level. Now? Well, with power creep and level differences, it doesn't feel like enough of a challenge to offer any real satisfaction."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
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Dexter411✭✭✭NoMore bugs? No! Every damn DLC(new zone) is broken in one way or another, would You like to be unable to progress your new character because of some sort of bug or glitch, cmon. Let them first deal with problems they already have...Edited by Dexter411 on June 11, 2016 7:18PM0 -
Drakoleon✭✭✭✭NoPlease no more new content !!! races/classes/skills are already a big mess ! After 2,5 years and zeni still strangles to find balance!
You need more???
Craglorn is DEAD that should change to single player map like all DLCs but..... i doubt they will.....cause its free and there is no profit there.1 -
Evergnar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Didn't vote because it doesn't really matter. There is no money in it for Zos. The only way changes will come to base game zones is through DLC content unfortunately.0 -
Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes
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martinhpb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoNo I've seen this before. It sounds good but in reality:
- it takes valuable dev time away from new content
- it can allow devs to pronounce new development whilst actually not delivering much
- it inevitavly introduces the easymode creep into original great content.
Keep old stuff sacred its the archive of great content.At least the spelling is difficult for you.
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martinhpb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoParaNostram wrote: »I'd be fine with simply making everything battle leveled, so you can do any content regardless of level. I mean, in single player TES games it was still fun to go on the quests regardless of level. Now? Well, with power creep and level differences, it doesn't feel like enough of a challenge to offer any real satisfaction.
Sorry I hate that idea.At least the spelling is difficult for you.
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Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭Yes and No.
I have a ton of quests that I skipped when I completed Cadwells Almanac.
I have no reason to go back and complete them now. If they gave me better experience that scales to my level, then sure... I'll love it.
On the other hand, end game is lacking a lot.
I'd rather see a DLC focused entirely on end game stuff.PC and PS4 EP only player0 -
Neirymn✭✭✭✭YesYes, if there is nothing else to be done first, which isn't the case. x) ZoS adressed this matter on a ESO live episode and said that revamping the old zones is a lot of work and that they'd rather add new zones instead, or something like that. ^^1