To anyone who says sorcs are bad, I challenge you to ask some of the AD EU Sorcs up in Sewers if they are bad.
Deltia just made a new sorc vid, sure sorcs are not as tanky as they were played before, they can still be tanky.
People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.
@Wrobel "you suck" ( HAH just kiddingYou're actually doing good man don't let all the hate get to you, I watched a Youtube video the other night and like 200 people made a terrible # about you ) just ignore them and prove them wrong.
99% of the greatest people in history were told they couldn't do what made them famous.
I think Eric just has a hard time explaining what he wants to realise and people take what he says too literally. It's hard to explain something with combat / skills.
Remember you don't have to do it all on your own. My suggestion make a phantom forum account and start throwing out theory crafting or possible skills suggestions out there... See what the community says or wants and also see in game what most players use and enjoy. Then work from that but do NOT use it as your Alpha & Omega just use it as guidelines and stick with your original vision. You guys have changed enough from launch that the game is now your way not the original guys so show us your plans man. PRO TIP: Experiment more on the PTS, do RADICAL changes with skills, trees, passives. Nothing minor. See what happens, just make sure to notify players on the forums or the PTS loading screen that it's temporary and you guys are actually testing things out.
OR make a PTS 2.0 and do it there
mad1max954 wrote: »karakondzula wrote: »He actually did pretty decent job with latest patch, much better than before. I like it.
let me guess... Your a nightblade?
hi i want to ask you that are you happy with the Balance that @Wrobel made in the last patch!!!
thank you...
Funny because the one class I find the most fun to play is Stam Sorc... I have absolutely no problems with it. The biggest complaint Stam Sorcs have is "no class damage abilities" but Wrobel stated that STAMINA builds are supposed to use weapons and have more choices in weapons than Magicka. So if you want Sorcerer class damage, go Magicka... if you want to Stam Sorc, then go weapons... I fully agree with that. Furthermore, I am loving Hurricane and even the change to Critical Surge has been a non-issue for me as I'm still as viable as I was before the change. I think most of the complaints are, "This class doesn't play how I want it to play, therefore it's not viable", when in reality it's a L2P issue. Sorry, but no, you can't just 'play your way' through everything and expect to be 100% successful... that kind of balance would be impossible.
People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.
hi i want to ask you that are you happy with the Balance that @Wrobel made in the last patch!!!
People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.
So all the sorcs that rolled new characters instead of playing the shambles of a class didn't want to learn new skills and rotations? Yeah...hi i want to ask you that are you happy with the Balance that @Wrobel made in the last patch!!!
Stamina is seriously overtuned right now. Magicka has some cheese like Vicious Death. This is not balance.
Fixing destro staves so they are unique and powerful for each staff type would go a long way toward improving magicka DKs and Sorcs without buffing magplars or NBs.
Yes.
I won't blame one single man for every fault with the game. Whilst he's the head person making the changes now he has a lot of work to do because of the meta's that we as players push.
I often remind people that when this game launched there was no Magicka vs Stamina and that's something we as players pushed the game towards, because of that Wrobel and the combat team have been doing a massive overhaul of mechanics and skills to keep up with the new builds an metas that we find.
Look at all the changes made since launch to skills and take the time to look at how many good ones have been made. Sure there are some bad ones as well but this is an on going effort as with all MMO games. The last patch was a massive boost to Stamina users because of the changes in damage types, this is all overshadowed however by the few unfavourable choices made or the Magicka users who feel the patch wasn't for them.
I challenge anyone who wants to blame one man for all of the games balance faults to go and write up a workable and balanced version of every skill and item in the game, for both PvE and PvP and which will make everyone in the community happy at once. You might be surprised how hard that task actually is.
Keep on roll dodging Wrobel!
Yes.
I won't blame one single man for every fault with the game. Whilst he's the head person making the changes now he has a lot of work to do because of the meta's that we as players push.
I often remind people that when this game launched there was no Magicka vs Stamina and that's something we as players pushed the game towards, because of that Wrobel and the combat team have been doing a massive overhaul of mechanics and skills to keep up with the new builds an metas that we find.
Look at all the changes made since launch to skills and take the time to look at how many good ones have been made. Sure there are some bad ones as well but this is an on going effort as with all MMO games. The last patch was a massive boost to Stamina users because of the changes in damage types, this is all overshadowed however by the few unfavourable choices made or the Magicka users who feel the patch wasn't for them.
I challenge anyone who wants to blame one man for all of the games balance faults to go and write up a workable and balanced version of every skill and item in the game, for both PvE and PvP and which will make everyone in the community happy at once. You might be surprised how hard that task actually is.
Keep on roll dodging Wrobel!
You know where u are going wrong ,
1 month they opened servey and threads ZOS them self about this changes they made and thousands of PEOPLE said them this is going to be wrong and u need to fix this and they didnt do a such thing for those...
i think this is unrespectful to people ... they open thread thousands gave answer and they dont listen a thing from those answers so pls dont use those sweet words to make them show them right ok...
They did it they want it and they didnt care any other ideas...
I just wish they'd fix Argonian racial passives. Then I could bury the hatchet.
Rune_Relic wrote: »5 steps forward 3 steps back most of the time.
Funny because the one class I find the most fun to play is Stam Sorc... I have absolutely no problems with it. The biggest complaint Stam Sorcs have is "no class damage abilities" but Wrobel stated that STAMINA builds are supposed to use weapons and have more choices in weapons than Magicka. So if you want Sorcerer class damage, go Magicka... if you want to Stam Sorc, then go weapons... I fully agree with that. Furthermore, I am loving Hurricane and even the change to Critical Surge has been a non-issue for me as I'm still as viable as I was before the change. I think most of the complaints are, "This class doesn't play how I want it to play, therefore it's not viable", when in reality it's a L2P issue. Sorry, but no, you can't just 'play your way' through everything and expect to be 100% successful... that kind of balance would be impossible.
Ep1kMalware wrote: »To anyone who says sorcs are bad, I challenge you to ask some of the AD EU Sorcs up in Sewers if they are bad.
Deltia just made a new sorc vid, sure sorcs are not as tanky as they were played before, they can still be tanky.
People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.
@Wrobel "you suck" ( HAH just kiddingYou're actually doing good man don't let all the hate get to you, I watched a Youtube video the other night and like 200 people made a terrible # about you ) just ignore them and prove them wrong.
99% of the greatest people in history were told they couldn't do what made them famous.
I think Eric just has a hard time explaining what he wants to realise and people take what he says too literally. It's hard to explain something with combat / skills.
Remember you don't have to do it all on your own. My suggestion make a phantom forum account and start throwing out theory crafting or possible skills suggestions out there... See what the community says or wants and also see in game what most players use and enjoy. Then work from that but do NOT use it as your Alpha & Omega just use it as guidelines and stick with your original vision. You guys have changed enough from launch that the game is now your way not the original guys so show us your plans man. PRO TIP: Experiment more on the PTS, do RADICAL changes with skills, trees, passives. Nothing minor. See what happens, just make sure to notify players on the forums or the PTS loading screen that it's temporary and you guys are actually testing things out.
OR make a PTS 2.0 and do it there
Sorcs ARE bad, and deltia is still a terrible player. If he was on ps4 I'd happily 1v1.
Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
From what I've seen. Bring magicka Dk and Sorc in general up to par, correct this...and perhaps for the first time we'll have balance. That said maybe he's doing a better job then everyone is giving him credit for.
You mean like raise shield timer, make them critable, and make pets more useful? While we're at it, why not replace one of the useless skills in daedric summoning with ,maybe something like a daedric ritual you can use to heal yourself or some crap like that.
Or a chain lightning that zaps multiple ,mobs. Idk, sorc skills are just cheesy. They're not good, they're not balanced, they're just cheesy. zos isn't doing anything to make them balanced, and yet viable, they're just making it less cheesy. Which is bad, because sorc players depend on their cheese. Non viable class with no cheese.
Edit: And *** with dat atro? Seriously, so terrible. Its so bad I immediatly know when a teamate is a broken wheel in a dungeon because they summon thay stupid atro. Why not an aoe lightnight storm that gives magica cost reduction by 30% for a few seconds. Similar to nova. Sorcs got shields so replace damage reduction with cost reduction. Maybe a similar ult style for stamina morph. Seriously this class is so broken. In many nonviably cheesy ways. daedric storm plawks.
Believe me, I feel your pain, I've written practically a book on the issue your speaking of lol.
I'm not hurtin'. I favor stamina builds pretty blatently. I did roll a sorc, Immediate;y noticed it was a completely nonviable character. It did pisspoor in combat until I had a shield. That's the issue really. Immediately noticble that the class is just outright stupid, and yet you had to wait untill you unlocked certain skills that were so cheesy you had to use them, if tou didnt, you might as well spam snipe or wrecking blow. I even pity the tanks that get these guys in running petbuilds and atros. All those stupid clanfears pulling aggro, and storm atros that dont dps.Poor souls.
As much as I hate sorcs, and their QQing, they're justified to an extent as their class is so underdeveloped that they are reliant on their cheese. This is the exact reason non-sorcs want sorcs nerfed so badly. Some of the QQers need to play a different build for a while to understand the difference between viable, and cheese. <- because in the end, sorcs dont need a nerf, or a buff; they need to be gutted and reworked entirely.
People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.
So all the sorcs that rolled new characters instead of playing the shambles of a class didn't want to learn new skills and rotations? Yeah...hi i want to ask you that are you happy with the Balance that @Wrobel made in the last patch!!!
Stamina is seriously overtuned right now. Magicka has some cheese like Vicious Death. This is not balance.
Fixing destro staves so they are unique and powerful for each staff type would go a long way toward improving magicka DKs and Sorcs without buffing magplars or NBs.
Ghost-Shot wrote: »He needs to be replaced, its pretty clear at this point that he isn't capable of doing the job.
Molag_Crow wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »To anyone who says sorcs are bad, I challenge you to ask some of the AD EU Sorcs up in Sewers if they are bad.
Deltia just made a new sorc vid, sure sorcs are not as tanky as they were played before, they can still be tanky.
People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.
@Wrobel "you suck" ( HAH just kiddingYou're actually doing good man don't let all the hate get to you, I watched a Youtube video the other night and like 200 people made a terrible # about you ) just ignore them and prove them wrong.
99% of the greatest people in history were told they couldn't do what made them famous.
I think Eric just has a hard time explaining what he wants to realise and people take what he says too literally. It's hard to explain something with combat / skills.
Remember you don't have to do it all on your own. My suggestion make a phantom forum account and start throwing out theory crafting or possible skills suggestions out there... See what the community says or wants and also see in game what most players use and enjoy. Then work from that but do NOT use it as your Alpha & Omega just use it as guidelines and stick with your original vision. You guys have changed enough from launch that the game is now your way not the original guys so show us your plans man. PRO TIP: Experiment more on the PTS, do RADICAL changes with skills, trees, passives. Nothing minor. See what happens, just make sure to notify players on the forums or the PTS loading screen that it's temporary and you guys are actually testing things out.
OR make a PTS 2.0 and do it there
Sorcs ARE bad, and deltia is still a terrible player. If he was on ps4 I'd happily 1v1.
Dat ego. Deltia has helped thousands upon thousands of players learn their classes and builds etc etc, he may have even helped you learn something you didn't know at one point, even though you probably wouldn't admit that.
Yes.
I won't blame one single man for every fault with the game. Whilst he's the head person making the changes now he has a lot of work to do because of the meta's that we as players push.
I often remind people that when this game launched there was no Magicka vs Stamina and that's something we as players pushed the game towards, because of that Wrobel and the combat team have been doing a massive overhaul of mechanics and skills to keep up with the new builds an metas that we find.
Look at all the changes made since launch to skills and take the time to look at how many good ones have been made. Sure there are some bad ones as well but this is an on going effort as with all MMO games. The last patch was a massive boost to Stamina users because of the changes in damage types, this is all overshadowed however by the few unfavourable choices made or the Magicka users who feel the patch wasn't for them.
I challenge anyone who wants to blame one man for all of the games balance faults to go and write up a workable and balanced version of every skill and item in the game, for both PvE and PvP and which will make everyone in the community happy at once. You might be surprised how hard that task actually is.
Keep on roll dodging Wrobel!
Ep1kMalware wrote: »To anyone who says sorcs are bad, I challenge you to ask some of the AD EU Sorcs up in Sewers if they are bad.
Deltia just made a new sorc vid, sure sorcs are not as tanky as they were played before, they can still be tanky.
People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.
@Wrobel "you suck" ( HAH just kiddingYou're actually doing good man don't let all the hate get to you, I watched a Youtube video the other night and like 200 people made a terrible # about you ) just ignore them and prove them wrong.
99% of the greatest people in history were told they couldn't do what made them famous.
I think Eric just has a hard time explaining what he wants to realise and people take what he says too literally. It's hard to explain something with combat / skills.
Remember you don't have to do it all on your own. My suggestion make a phantom forum account and start throwing out theory crafting or possible skills suggestions out there... See what the community says or wants and also see in game what most players use and enjoy. Then work from that but do NOT use it as your Alpha & Omega just use it as guidelines and stick with your original vision. You guys have changed enough from launch that the game is now your way not the original guys so show us your plans man. PRO TIP: Experiment more on the PTS, do RADICAL changes with skills, trees, passives. Nothing minor. See what happens, just make sure to notify players on the forums or the PTS loading screen that it's temporary and you guys are actually testing things out.
OR make a PTS 2.0 and do it there
Sorcs ARE bad, and deltia is still a terrible player. If he was on ps4 I'd happily 1v1.