Yes.

I won't blame one single man for every fault with the game. Whilst he's the head person making the changes now he has a lot of work to do because of the meta's that we as players push.

I often remind people that when this game launched there was no Magicka vs Stamina and that's something we as players pushed the game towards, because of that Wrobel and the combat team have been doing a massive overhaul of mechanics and skills to keep up with the new builds an metas that we find.

Look at all the changes made since launch to skills and take the time to look at how many good ones have been made. Sure there are some bad ones as well but this is an on going effort as with all MMO games. The last patch was a massive boost to Stamina users because of the changes in damage types, this is all overshadowed however by the few unfavourable choices made or the Magicka users who feel the patch wasn't for them.

I challenge anyone who wants to blame one man for all of the games balance faults to go and write up a workable and balanced version of every skill and item in the game, for both PvE and PvP and which will make everyone in the community happy at once. You might be surprised how hard that task actually is.

Keep on roll dodging Wrobel!

Turelus wrote: »

Yes.

I won't blame one single man for every fault with the game. Whilst he's the head person making the changes now he has a lot of work to do because of the meta's that we as players push.

I often remind people that when this game launched there was no Magicka vs Stamina and that's something we as players pushed the game towards, because of that Wrobel and the combat team have been doing a massive overhaul of mechanics and skills to keep up with the new builds an metas that we find.

Look at all the changes made since launch to skills and take the time to look at how many good ones have been made. Sure there are some bad ones as well but this is an on going effort as with all MMO games. The last patch was a massive boost to Stamina users because of the changes in damage types, this is all overshadowed however by the few unfavourable choices made or the Magicka users who feel the patch wasn't for them.

I challenge anyone who wants to blame one man for all of the games balance faults to go and write up a workable and balanced version of every skill and item in the game, for both PvE and PvP and which will make everyone in the community happy at once. You might be surprised how hard that task actually is.

Keep on roll dodging Wrobel!

You know where u are going wrong ,

1 month they opened servey and threads ZOS them self about this changes they made and thousands of PEOPLE said them this is going to be wrong and u need to fix this and they didnt do a such thing for those...

i think this is unrespectful to people ... they open thread thousands gave answer and they dont listen a thing from those answers so pls dont use those sweet words to make them show them right ok...

They did it they want it and they didnt care any other ideas...

Kendaric wrote: »

Yes, I'm quite happy with the balance but I don't play Magicka-users (never have and most likely never will).

so you dont know anything about balance:)..

I just wish they'd fix Argonian racial passives. Then I could bury the hatchet.

Meh no different from TG when Mag got VD and stam was still reeling from the block stam nerf etc. TG was the magicka patch. Now its the stamina patch. Wait till next DLC and mag will become OP again. Has been happening back and forth for the longest time now. No need to get your boxers in a twist.

While I do make the occasional remark or joke about him, I'm actually quite happy with his work. Especially with the DB update, the buffing of Stamina to make it more or less equal to Magicka and the DK updates (Stamina getting Poison morphs and Magicka getting buffed), I feel that he's taking the game in the right direction.

Ofc we're not there yet (Sorcs, RD and StamBlade in PvE)

But he's doing his best, the last update shows it

Turelus wrote: »

TheHsN wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Yes.

I won't blame one single man for every fault with the game. Whilst he's the head person making the changes now he has a lot of work to do because of the meta's that we as players push.

I often remind people that when this game launched there was no Magicka vs Stamina and that's something we as players pushed the game towards, because of that Wrobel and the combat team have been doing a massive overhaul of mechanics and skills to keep up with the new builds an metas that we find.

Look at all the changes made since launch to skills and take the time to look at how many good ones have been made. Sure there are some bad ones as well but this is an on going effort as with all MMO games. The last patch was a massive boost to Stamina users because of the changes in damage types, this is all overshadowed however by the few unfavourable choices made or the Magicka users who feel the patch wasn't for them.

I challenge anyone who wants to blame one man for all of the games balance faults to go and write up a workable and balanced version of every skill and item in the game, for both PvE and PvP and which will make everyone in the community happy at once. You might be surprised how hard that task actually is.

Keep on roll dodging Wrobel!

You know where u are going wrong ,

1 month they opened servey and threads ZOS them self about this changes they made and thousands of PEOPLE said them this is going to be wrong and u need to fix this and they didnt do a such thing for those...

i think this is unrespectful to people ... they open thread thousands gave answer and they dont listen a thing from those answers so pls dont use those sweet words to make them show them right ok...

They did it they want it and they didnt care any other ideas...

There are also many threads where people posted feedback that was listened to. They're not going to make everyone happy all the time. They have even annoyed me at times, but I also understand this is ongoing and every class will have its time to shine.

You asked for my opinion with your thread and I stated it as well as talking a bit about how I come to form that opinion. However now you're telling me because I don't agree with you my opinion is wrong.

You have also replied to another post in this thread telling someone that they don't understand balance because they too expressed an opinion they think it's okay but haven't played all sides.

So what is it you're looking for OP, peoples opinions or people to just agree with you and bash on a developer?

i asked about balance...,

not wrobel is a good person he works alot of something like this:)....and i respect your answer but i wanna say where u go wrong is i didnt ask about how good or bad people they are:)...

DO you things now there is a balance in the game???

I think the dude has alot on his plate. As far as class balance goes i think he could tune it a bit better. Healing in pvp is kinda messed up. Classes can get high healing returns and still have points invested in alot of dps slots, as well as crazy non major/minor buffs to healing recieved/done that make it ridiculously hard to compete against (Malbeth, passives etc). Maybe reverse the scaling of CP to the main dmg/healing stars so after 70 invested they increase more quickly?

That and the basic template design diversity is a bit lacking. If any class could build a competitive pvp build without the necessity to borrow from weapon skill lines it could extend the diversity out a bit. Min/maxers will still reign supreme, but not everyone runs The elite builds, and this could be fun keeping your opponent guessing what build your using.

The team seems to be working on it but with having to put out fire glitches and deal with 3rd party software users diverts attention away from the main goal, fun.

TheHsN wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

TheHsN wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Yes.

I won't blame one single man for every fault with the game. Whilst he's the head person making the changes now he has a lot of work to do because of the meta's that we as players push.

I often remind people that when this game launched there was no Magicka vs Stamina and that's something we as players pushed the game towards, because of that Wrobel and the combat team have been doing a massive overhaul of mechanics and skills to keep up with the new builds an metas that we find.

Look at all the changes made since launch to skills and take the time to look at how many good ones have been made. Sure there are some bad ones as well but this is an on going effort as with all MMO games. The last patch was a massive boost to Stamina users because of the changes in damage types, this is all overshadowed however by the few unfavourable choices made or the Magicka users who feel the patch wasn't for them.

I challenge anyone who wants to blame one man for all of the games balance faults to go and write up a workable and balanced version of every skill and item in the game, for both PvE and PvP and which will make everyone in the community happy at once. You might be surprised how hard that task actually is.

Keep on roll dodging Wrobel!

You know where u are going wrong ,

1 month they opened servey and threads ZOS them self about this changes they made and thousands of PEOPLE said them this is going to be wrong and u need to fix this and they didnt do a such thing for those...

i think this is unrespectful to people ... they open thread thousands gave answer and they dont listen a thing from those answers so pls dont use those sweet words to make them show them right ok...

They did it they want it and they didnt care any other ideas...

There are also many threads where people posted feedback that was listened to. They're not going to make everyone happy all the time. They have even annoyed me at times, but I also understand this is ongoing and every class will have its time to shine.

You asked for my opinion with your thread and I stated it as well as talking a bit about how I come to form that opinion. However now you're telling me because I don't agree with you my opinion is wrong.

You have also replied to another post in this thread telling someone that they don't understand balance because they too expressed an opinion they think it's okay but haven't played all sides.

So what is it you're looking for OP, peoples opinions or people to just agree with you and bash on a developer?

i asked about balance...,

DO you things now there is a balance in the game???

In your first post you asked if I am happy with Wrobel's balance, which I answered and you then told me was wrong.

Now you're asking a different question of do I think there is balance. Which I have to say I do think there is.
It's not perfect balance, and in some areas it's really showing, but I don't think it's so unbalanced it's unplayable nor do I find myself unhappy with the balance.

There can always be better balance for the game and they will always be moving towards this. We don't know what changes are being worked on right now, the next patch for example might fix many of the current issues people have with the Sorcerer, or knock Nightblade's down a peg.

The thing is this is always ongoing and no game I can think of has every achieved perfect balance without making both sides in the game identical. However stating that ZOS never listen to us is incorrect and ignoring all the good changes over the last two years to only focus on the current bad ones isn't productive.

He actually did pretty decent job with latest patch, much better than before. I like it.

karakondzula wrote: »

He actually did pretty decent job with latest patch, much better than before. I like it.

let me guess... Your a nightblade?

The game is heading in the right direction when it comes to balance, and has been for a little while now.

To anyone who says sorcs are bad, I challenge you to ask some of the AD EU Sorcs up in Sewers if they are bad.

Deltia just made a new sorc vid, sure sorcs are not as tanky as they were played before, they can still be tanky.

People in this game don't like change they don't like learning new rotations, skills, builds. They just want everything to forever stay the same.

@Wrobel "you suck" ( HAH just kidding You're actually doing good man don't let all the hate get to you, I watched a Youtube video the other night and like 200 people made a terrible # about you ) just ignore them and prove them wrong.

99% of the greatest people in history were told they couldn't do what made them famous.

I think Eric just has a hard time explaining what he wants to realise and people take what he says too literally. It's hard to explain something with combat / skills.

Remember you don't have to do it all on your own. My suggestion make a phantom forum account and start throwing out theory crafting or possible skills suggestions out there... See what the community says or wants and also see in game what most players use and enjoy. Then work from that but do NOT use it as your Alpha & Omega just use it as guidelines and stick with your original vision. You guys have changed enough from launch that the game is now your way not the original guys so show us your plans man. PRO TIP: Experiment more on the PTS, do RADICAL changes with skills, trees, passives. Nothing minor. See what happens, just make sure to notify players on the forums or the PTS loading screen that it's temporary and you guys are actually testing things out.

OR make a PTS 2.0 and do it there