Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Wait I thought EP was the only faction that zerged? Isn't DC a saint of fair play? This forum post has me confused. Time to go drink some more mead and go zerg the daylights out of trueflame with my EP zerg.

The Rules of Cyrodiil Forum PvP

Rule 1. DC players are always right . Always fair . Always objective .
Rule 2. When ever you feel a DC player is wrong see rule 1

Now you're getting it

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Wait I thought EP was the only faction that zerged? Isn't DC a saint of fair play? This forum post has me confused. Time to go drink some more mead and go zerg the daylights out of trueflame with my EP zerg.

The Rules of Cyrodiil Forum PvP

Rule 1. DC players are always right . Always fair . Always objective .
Rule 2. When ever you feel a DC player is wrong see rule 1

Rule number 3. EP is the zerg baddies on TF and AD is zerg baddies on Haddy
Rule 4. DC only runs noble 8-16 raid sizes. Never more.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Lord FENGRUSH has conquered the Dominion once again. Their wills were broken early into the night.

All I saw was Lord Fongrush dying to oils over and over and bitching about how their weren't enough forward camps in the world to keep him in the fight. But hey I had fun good fight.

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Gottbeard wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Lord FENGRUSH has conquered the Dominion once again. Their wills were broken early into the night.

All I saw was Lord Fongrush dying to oils over and over and bitching about how their weren't enough forward camps in the world to keep him in the fight. But hey I had fun good fight.

2k light attacks as EMP lol prolly the only emp to have more deaths than kills
Edit: but anyways im sure they had a fun good fight too LOLOLOL

You clocking my light attack damage... REALLY? You must be the player ZoS is making all these light attack gimmicky sets for. 65 K stamina and 4k weapon dmg, my light attacks were fine. And I can count on my hands how many times I died the entire night. Not sure what fight you were in, you must of been one of the blue groups sieging a back corner going for the Swiss cheese keep take strategy.

P. S. Yeh really was fun.

Lord_Legion wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

i guess it is only fair to start an AD thread for Had. It seems the DC have learned much in the last 6 months from the EP on ZERGing. Its time AD to pick a campaign they can work together on and push back the DC and EP.

Presently DC on HAD runs 48 deep with a K guild leading. The take EMP which EP gives them, then they take AD scrolls and farms AD at the gates while ignoring EP scrolls, and keeps. It's so much fun watching team Purple play on Had that every AD should make it a point to come farm the Grapes.

I'm sorry but where have you been the last 3 months? AD has been zerging the map hard and night capping every night

Rylana wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

i guess it is only fair to start an AD thread for Had. It seems the DC have learned much in the last 6 months from the EP on ZERGing. Its time AD to pick a campaign they can work together on and push back the DC and EP.

Presently DC on HAD runs 48 deep with a K guild leading. The take EMP which EP gives them, then they take AD scrolls and farms AD at the gates while ignoring EP scrolls, and keeps. It's so much fun watching team Purple play on Had that every AD should make it a point to come farm the Grapes.

I'm sorry but where have you been the last 3 months? AD has been zerging the map hard and night capping every night

He has been leading that zerg actually, lol

Awkward.

Translation of the OP for those who still have IQ points left: "The numbers are even, and we're having to actually try to win fights! NoooooOOOoooo! Bring more bombard spammers to Haderus ASAP so we can push the other factions back to their gates with sheer numbers like we have been for the last two months!"

OP, Haderus has been a *** show for the last few months where AD has fielded the massive pug numbers and zerged the map down, often outside of prime time where the other factions were not equipped to fight back.

Haderus had an even population last night, and DC did not own even half the map for most of it.

I welcome you to competitive PvP. Step it up, learn to fight with even numbers, refine your group, stop relying on pugs, and get gud.

Didnt realize OP was AD zerg leader. Embrace the power of K hole and F hole united as one!

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Gottbeard wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Lord FENGRUSH has conquered the Dominion once again. Their wills were broken early into the night.

All I saw was Lord Fongrush dying to oils over and over and bitching about how their weren't enough forward camps in the world to keep him in the fight. But hey I had fun good fight.

Dying to oils? Only siege that was doing work was the 15 ballistas AD uses from walls when fighting 3 people on the ground.

These folks have no interest in leaving the confines of their structures until the siege limit is met. At this point, they will be relegated to spotting duty for the other siege and await battle on the walls while a few lost AD trickle off the wall to engage in honorable combat.

Ultimately, many AD perished to few DC. If you need a recap highlight of yesterday, let me know. The crowning was captured on stream!

Lern 2 count, there isn't even room in a keep for 15 fire ballistas to weigh In on one fight. You do know 1 person can run 3 to 4 anti personnel siege right?

I can't speak for how other people play but you can't accuse me of being a wall flower. I was in the thick of it all night long. I go deep.

I don't know why you think DC was outnumbered. In what world does pop locked blue with 2 major raid guilds plus 3 bar red equal outnumbered by a 3 bar AD "pug Zerg". You were fielding 3 siege lines at once for crissakes. I watched the past broadcast. Someone with no ftc who doesn't check their death recaps and spends half the stream dead or sieging a random back wall really doesn't make a good camera man.

P. S. Good fight I had fun and I hate the sound cutting out too, fix your crap zos.

While it's true that Haderus was mostly AD not that long ago, it seems the other post about calling all DC & EP to kick AD out of Had has been effective and achieved the desired result, for the most part.
The current state of things on Had is different than when that original cry for help was issued.

So, now that things have shifted, why would it be considered taboo for any AD player to request some assistance over on that campaign as well, and make it more competitive and balanced yet again?
Just as it seems we agree it was fair and justified for the request to "kick AD out of Haderus"?

The lag that is TF is sometimes unplayable for some players, and the long queues to get in can be unbearable; players want to play, not wait.
Azura or Had seem to be the only other options. And since Azura is not CP friendly atm, the only other option for players who want to be able to use their CP seems to be Had.

I think all that is needed is just some effort by all factions to spread out a little as has already been suggested by some and try to balance numbers out.. since zos seems unable or unwilling to do so. Which is their right to do so, but can be frustrating for its players at times.

Although, I can't blame any faction for running all over a map and capturing everything they can capture if they can do so.
I don't expect any faction to just sit at their home keeps and wait for a fair amount of other factions to log on just to capture map objectives.
While I would hope that all players would at least help back off a bit in order to give other factions a fighting chance at some point.

The issue has been discussed of players taking over the map during hours that are not "prime" time, but, this is a grey area. People play during what is "their" "prime" time. Whether that be their midday, midnight or early morning. They may play during what may be a "normal" work day for some, while they work a night shift, and that is their "normal" work day, or they happen to have the day off. Some players aren't even in the same time zone, let alone the same country as other players.
We all paid for this game and should be able to play when it is convenient for us, whenever that time is.

So, being that this pvp environment is designed to be convenient for all players, from all walks of life and all areas of the world, it sometimes seems inconvenient.

Attacking someone for their point of view and request for help, especially from their own faction, seems pretty harsh and somewhat hypocritical.
What we should be doing is figuring out a way to help each other and make our time together more fair, and more enjoyable.

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Didnt realize OP was AD zerg leader. Embrace the power of K hole and F hole united as one!

i am not a zerg leader. unless you call 12 to 16 a zerg. if you want me to raise an army of zergers i can.

@Anazasi is right. He only does small scale. The 40 other AD that are right behind him are not technically in his group, so it doesnt count, right?

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

GreatWhite000 wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Didnt realize OP was AD zerg leader. Embrace the power of K hole and F hole united as one!

i am not a zerg leader. unless you call 12 to 16 a zerg. if you want me to raise an army of zergers i can.

Anything above 12 you can start calling a zerg. Small group is 4-8.

Telel could also call it a snuffalufugus. But they find adding arbitrary labels to an already imaginary concept and or vice verse to be somewhat pointless.

This one also finds that focusing on the number of opponents versus their own comrades group size results in a more accurate made up term that serves as a good vehicl for excusing their losses.

If you could raise an army of zergers you wouldn't be asking for help on the forums

lol @ blue taking the whole map and saying "skill"

@Karamis_Vimardon Oh I'm sorry, did you fail to see the blue trying to claim they were outnumbered? Perhaps logical implication and abstract thinking are a bit too far above your level of consciousness. I don't suppose you'll ever understand.