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Can we have a "good guy" guild in the future?
Teridaxus
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After betraying all moral values of my character with the thieves guild and now dark brotherhood, i would love to see a good guild like the companions or dawnguard from skyrim.
Maybe some imperial order, followers of stendarr or even something like the knights of the nine ( well eight, tiber septim is coming in 200 years in eso timeline )
Hell, even those knights of the hour are fine after some reforms.
A bard guild would be fine too. Saving tamriel with the power of music.
Maybe some imperial order, followers of stendarr or even something like the knights of the nine ( well eight, tiber septim is coming in 200 years in eso timeline )
Hell, even those knights of the hour are fine after some reforms.
A bard guild would be fine too. Saving tamriel with the power of music.
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PrinceFabious wrote: »I vote for a Bards college! Please please please
With functioning instruments? Count me in!Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.9 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »After betraying all moral values of my character with the thieves guild and now dark brotherhood, i would love to see a good guild like the companions or dawnguard from skyrim..
If ZoS does this we better not hear complaints from you about how you have then betrayed all the moral values of your DB/thief characters....
Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis11 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PrinceFabious wrote: »I vote for a Bards college! Please please please
With functioning instruments? Count me in!
With such a talented team who does the soundtrack in ESO, this would really be fun - I think they could make a collection of songs and instruments, which would be great - bard college sounds good to me too.5 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Fighters guild was fun, definitely good.
Let's have the Worm Cult next, and a necromancy skill line.11 -
Ser Lobo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would love a bards guild DLC (and bard skilline, including many buffs, summons and debuffs, as well as new lute/drum/flute animations and songs).
I would love a free content update which 'continues' the fighters and mages guild, giving them repetative and daily quests and helping balance them to the scale of the thieves and dark brotherhood.Ruze Aulus. Mayor of Dhalmora. Archer, hunter, assassin. Nightblade.
Gral. Mountain Terror. Barbarian, marauder, murderer. Nightblade.
Na'Djin. Knight-Blade. Knight, vanguard, defender. Nightblade.
XBOX NARuze is a veteran of the PC Beta, lived through the year one drought, survived the buy-to-play conversion, and has stepped foot in the hells known as Craglorn. He mained a nightlbade when nightblades weren't good, and has never worn a robe. He converted from PC during the console betas, and hasn't regretted it a moment since.
He'd rank ESO:TU (in it's current state) a 4.8 out of 5, loving the game almost entirely.
This is an multiplayer game. I should be able to log in, join a dungeon, join a battleground, queue for a dolmen or world boss or delve, teleport in, play for 20 minutes, and not worry about getting kicked, failing to join, having perfect voice coms, or being unable to complete content because someone's lagging behind. Group Finder and matchmaking is broken. Take a note from Destiny and build a system that allows from drop-in/drop-out functionality and quick play.11 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »After betraying all moral values of my character with the thieves guild and now dark brotherhood, i would love to see a good guild like the companions or dawnguard from skyrim..
If ZoS does this we better not hear complaints from you about how you have then betrayed all the moral values of your DB/thief characters....
I don't think he is complaining - and as long as it makes someone think about such things, this is a good sign and in this case the game even had a positive effect on real life. Thinking about moral values and how fast those could get out of the window, if someone is not carefully considering his/her deeds, is a good thing. It is better, than just accepting it without any thought.Edited by Lysette on June 4, 2016 12:51AM10 -
Woeler✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I actually like stealing and murdering more than being the cliché hero one always plays in >99% of games.Edited by Woeler on June 4, 2016 12:51AM11 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭All those NPCs you killed doing the main quest would like to have a word with you, OP
"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU4 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭cyclonus11 wrote: »Fighters Guild and Mages Guild are the good guy guilds.
Are they?- I doubt that, they are just as selfish as all the others.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Not that I'm against the suggestion, but nearly all the base game content was "heroic," so good guys aren't exactly hurting for instances to be just and pure."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle4 -
bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Id rather a expansion on the current guilds, more mages guild quests, more fighters. they need end game relevance14 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »Not that I'm against the suggestion, but nearly all the base game content was "heroic," so good guys aren't exactly hurting for instances to be just and pure.
Heroic?- To run errands for people, who are too stupid to stay out of trouble and you have to bail them out or help them out?-2 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »Id rather a expansion on the current guilds, more mages guild quests, more fighters. they need end game relevance
They cannot have end game relevance, because fighter guild and mage guild are neutral in the alliance war. They state that clearly from the very beginning, when you join those guilds.1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭But let's wait and see - maybe we will get Vardenfell in a DLC and with it possibly the 3 Houses to be joined - Hlaalu (which run already the banks in EP), Redoran and Telvani. This would be 3 "guilds" with a very different agenda each. Ok, these would as well not be good guy's guilds - because they have all "their ways" to do things - like House Hlaalu does mafia like business. They intimidate, destroy possessions and property and take lives, if they deem this necessary to run their business.
Vardenfell would offer some other "guilds" like the Temple - a religious guild - or the Morag Tong, basically similar to the DB, just that they do officially accepted assassinations - not unlike it was done in the past on earth, where bounty hunters could bring in criminals dead or alive and it would not be considered murder to do the kill. Just that in the case of the Morag Tong, it would be just "dead" as the only option. Even, when I think about it, we have already a bounty system in the game, there are posts, where you can get bounty hunt orders.Edited by Lysette on June 4, 2016 1:22AM2 -
greylox✭✭✭✭✭Bard college, a chance to make a true support class...something I really miss from this game's 'DD-healer-tank' trifector.
Edited by greylox on June 4, 2016 1:37AMPC EU
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{Lugdum The Mechanist} (Hybrid Orc Templar, collector of ancient Ayleid smoking pipes)
{Rantoul} (Dark Elf Magknight, likes an ale between boss fights, has been known to offer daedric princes out in a fist fight)
{Red, The Wanderer} (Bosmer stam sorc and hunter extraordinaire)
{Shoots-For-Stars} (Argonian Mag pet Sorc Ice mage Healer)
*{Jinny the spark }* (Sassy Imperial Stamplar)
{Crezzi the Drifter} (Magblade khajiit burglar, available for questionable operations)
{Grif the Despised} (StamKnight Tank Nord, Eastmarch Master Drinker and spinner of tall yarns)
{Geraldine Stone-Heart} (High Elf MagSorc Ice Tank, Mystic, practitioner of the ancient arts)
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Rev Rielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.
They should have made good guilds with each of the updates thieves and brotherhood, but anyways... no balance to see here sadly.If you can be anything, be kind.2 -
scorpiodog✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, two DLC's seem to be suitable for only one character archetype (the sneaky thief-assassin). It just seems weird to send a fully armored tank type through TG or sending a Healer through Assassin's school.1
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✭✭✭The 4 iconic guilds (Mages, Fighters, Thieves, DB) are the way they always are.
You already had Fighters and Mages in base game. I wouldn't expect any new guilds any time soon.2 -
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✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »After betraying all moral values of my character with the thieves guild and now dark brotherhood, i would love to see a good guild like the companions or dawnguard from skyrim..
If ZoS does this we better not hear complaints from you about how you have then betrayed all the moral values of your DB/thief characters....
I have a different point of view on it. The game play is fun. It is the content they are releasing, and I want to play it with my main. Perhaps it is a little bit of moral gymnastics, but my point of view is that on a heroic character, when he's doing the DB/TG story he is performing more of a Meridia-Vision of 'what would have happened' or at the least 'what could have happened'. This may not have been the intend of the developers, but from a gameplay perspective and if you pay attention to the story it makes things feel right (in both directions really).
On the other side of the coin, I do agree that it would be nice to see a more heroic faction to join. Fighters Guild is alright, but they are little better than Mercenaries and Bodyguards for hire. The mages guild is perfectly happy enslaving souls to gems for eternity (or at least til they burn them out on some cheap magic trick) of all kinds of creatures, some of them sentient though perhaps alien to them. When it comes from a moral perspective it would be nice to join something a little more heroic in mentality like the Dawnguard, the Imperial Legion, House Redoran, etc. It would be nice to have the option to be part of a knightly order where the character fights for something because they believe in it, and not for the cheap thrills, power or cash. I understand the sentiment, even as I think its all been entertaining so far.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »Id rather a expansion on the current guilds, more mages guild quests, more fighters. they need end game relevance
This is another interesting idea. Although I do think having some Knightly Orders, or even some mutually exclusive groups to join might be fun in the future.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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✭✭I would rather them give us an alteritive guild option to join. Instead of like the dark brotherhood we could have sided with the order of akatosh in kvatch. Different quests but the same outcome at the end. The dark brotherhood succeeds. So in essence instead of joining the winning team we could experience the side of the losing team. It would be interesting. They do need to do this in the future, add the second option. I liked the fact they added us to side with the dawnguard or vampires in elder scrolls five dawngaurd dlc. It did not matter what you sided with the outcome was the same, and that is something they could do.
I would next like to see an expansion like dawnguard. With a new skill line only we be fighting against all kinds of monsters. I do want to see them add random encounters so you can be randomly attacked on the roads.
They could add vampire covens and werewolf packs we could join. Or we could side with an order of Vampire Hunters/Werewolf Hunters.
This would be an interesting concept and I think it would be a good thing for the player base to have options. I would like to see some new things, like more lycanthropy strains like werebear, wereboar, wereshark, werecrocadle, werebat and werelion, as well as even a wereskeever. Adding these would bring more flavor to the game, it would bring in more players.Edited by Thevampirenight on June 4, 2016 2:43AMPC NA
Please add Fangs to Vampires.9 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Why do we need more guilds? They did TG and DB because they are expected in the games. Now that they have the 4 most famous guilds, they can fill in other story games.3 -
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✭✭✭I would like the following since it reuses all of tsmriel and allows for easily repeatable content. Can easily work into any lore.
Wardens of "St.Chris" (insert any Tamriel Appropriate traveller protection name)
Devoted to kerping highways and byways safe for trade and travel and cultural contact.
Tries to be neutral since corrupt local officials can be as bad as bandits, hungry ogre posse, cultists seeking virgins for weekend "rituals" or fiance trying to free love from disapproving parents/slaver/custodians relocating in a hurry.
In addition to its own story quests, repeatables could take form of:
Meet so-n-so at wayshrine x, escort to y along road and deal with problem z. Then eith leave for short mission or stay for longer, tougher leg and greater rewards.
But add a widely varied table of x, y and z and you have a massive number of unique missions on that loop spread all over the place. Challenge could even be non-violent sometimes, like getting local help to shore up bridge too shakey for the big wsgon load. heck could even have missions where the escortee is the bad guy and eventually turning on you.
Seems a content model easy to expand, re-using a lot of existing elements with lotsa potential.
Edited by STEVIL on June 4, 2016 4:32AMProudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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"The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."3 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »I would rather them give us an alteritive guild option to join. Instead of like the dark brotherhood we could have sided with the order of akatosh in kvatch. Different quests but the same outcome at the end. The dark brotherhood succeeds. So in essence instead of joining the winning team we could experience the side of the losing team. It would be interesting. They do need to do this in the future, add the second option. I liked the fact they added us to side with the dawnguard or vampires in elder scrolls five dawngaurd dlc. It did not matter what you sided with the outcome was the same, and that is something they could do.
I would next like to see an expansion like dawnguard. With a new skill line only we be fighting against all kinds of monsters. I do want to see them add random encounters so you can be randomly attacked on the roads.
They could add vampire covens and werewolf packs we could join. Or we could side with an order of Vampire Hunters/Werewolf Hunters.
This would be an interesting concept and I think it would be a good thing for the player base to have options. I would like to see some new things, like more lycanthropy strains like werebear, wereboar, wereshark, werecrocadle, werebat and werelion, as well as even a wereskeever. Adding these would bring more flavor to the game, it would bring in more players.
Or maybe drive others away - I am not into this wer-something thing at all - werwolves is somewhat ok, but I do not need more of the same crap.Edited by Lysette on June 4, 2016 4:48AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What about the Order of White Knights ?
Daily Damsels in distress missions
Make a dungeon bully apologize once day quest
Unlock new white colors6 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Roehamad_Ali wrote: »What about the Order of White Knights ?
Daily Damsels in distress missions
Make a dungeon bully apologize once day quest
Unlock new white colors
I like the last option
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